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Is AGW "science" on par with Pyramid Power "science"?

Created by Gord on Nov 9, 2011

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Gord

Calgary, Canada

#1 Nov 9, 2011
In Science, every "Effect" has to have a "Cause".

If the "Cause" does not exist then no "Effect" can be attributed to the fantasy "Cause".

This poll should be completed after reading the two sections "The Case for AGW" and "The Case for Pyramid Power"
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#2 Nov 9, 2011
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The Case for AGW:
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AGW'ers attribute the numerous "Effects" that they post to a AGW "Cause" which is the "Greenhouse Effect".

Here is an extensive list of "Effects" that the AGW'ers attribute to AGW.
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

The AGW "Cause", which is the "Greenhouse Effect", is taken from the IPCC AR4 Report.

The "Greenhouse Effect" as defined by the IPCC AR4 Report, requires that Heat Radiation (called Back Radiation) from the Colder (Average -20 deg C) Atmosphere to flow to the Warmer (Average +15 deg C) Earth surface and HEAT-UP the much warmer Earth Surface.

You can read all about the IPCC AR4 Report and the "Greenhouse Effect" that includes Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (a Graph showing heat flows) here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

The AGW'ers claim that virtually all Climate "scientists" agree with the IPCC and that the "Greenhouse Effect" is causing the Earth to increase in temperature.

However, the "Greenhouse Effect" violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and there are, in fact, zero measurements ever done that show that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT-UP a Warmer Earth.
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- The DIRECT Back Radiation Measurements, done by the Climate "scientists", all use CRYOGENICALLY COOLED Infrared Detectors, cooled far below the average -20 deg C Atmosphere temperature to make these Measurements possible.

- All INDIRECT Back Radiation Measurements, done by the Climate "scientists" use devices like IR Thermometers that transfer heat from Thermistors, Thermocouples or

Cold Junction Semiconductors to the Colder Atmosphere to make these Measurements possible.
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Even Simple Solar Ovens that use Parabolic Mirrors to concentrate Solar Energy (or any Electromagnetic Field including IR Back-Radiation) at a focal point to

produce heating can be used to totally dis-prove the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" with Actual Measurements.

Put some water at the focal point of a Solar Oven, point the Solar Oven at the Sun and the water will boil.

Pont the Solar Over away from the Sun at the Cold Atmosphere and the water will COOL and even FREEZE.

If Back-Radiation from a Colder Atmosphere could actually Heat the warmer Earth Earth the "Concentrated" Back Radiation at the Focal Point should easily Heat-Up the
water.

Some other interesting points about Back-radiation:

- The Climate "scientists" say it constantly radiated to the Earth, Day and Night (so Solar ovens should work at NIGHT)

- The Trenberth's Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (used by the IPCC) shows that the Back-Radiation from the Cold Atmosphere heating the Earth is 333 w/m^2 while the Solar Energy heating the Earth is only 161 w/m^2 !!

Here is Trenberth's Latest Energy Balance Diagram for reference:
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/cgd...
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continued..
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#3 Nov 9, 2011
continuation...

Ask the AGW'ers on Topix (or anywhwere else) to Post:

- Even ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect
- Even ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth

And they will RUN FOR THE HILLS as they always do because The Laws of Science and Measurement support for the AGW LIE and Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" simply DO NOT EXIST.

Every measurement, EVER DONE, confirms that a Colder Atmosphere CANNOT HEAT UP a Warmer Earth, proving that AGW is a Fraud.
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Summary of the Case for AGW:

- The AGW'ers claim that virtually all Climate "scientists" agree with the IPCC and that the "Greenhouse Effect" is causing the Earth to increase in temperature.
- There is no "science" or "measurements" to support the Existance of the "Greenhouse Effect" and AGW.
- In fact, Every measurement, EVER DONE, confirms that a Colder Atmosphere CANNOT HEAT UP a Warmer Earth
- The AGW "Cause" does not exist for the "Effects" that the AGW'ers always talk about:

Here is an extensive list of "Effects" that the AGW'ers attribute to AGW.
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#4 Nov 9, 2011
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The Case for Pyramid Power
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Here are the "Effects" attributed to the Pyramid Power "Cause".

The Effects of the Pyramid

- Food kept under the pyramid will stay fresh for two to three times longer than uncovered food.

- The pyramid will dehydrate and mummify things, but it will not permit decay or mold to grow.

- There is also a slowing or complete stopping of the growth of microorganisms

- Those who sleep above small pyramids aligned in series placed under the bed, generally feel positive, immediate reactions.

- Bill Kerell is a pyramid researcher who has been doing experiments with pyramids for about 17 years.He has done many experiments using brine shrimp. Brine shrimp
usually live 6 to 7 weeks; but under the pyramids,Bill has kept them alive for over a year.

- One of the things he and his associates have found is that hypertensive individuals become tranquilized, but lethargic people become energetic again.

- Dr. Carl Benedicks (a Swedish scientist) discovered that the pyramid produced a resonance or frequency inside.

- Two German scientists, Born and Lertes, also discovered that this frequency was in the microwave range.

- Researchers say that items placed under the pyramid stay "charged" for various lengths of time after being taken from under the pyramid.

- It has been found that water keeps its "charge" longer than anything else.

- Pyramids have also been experimented with by doctors.

- Bill has been told by a doctor from a Canadian hospital that they tried using a pyramid in their burn ward.
The results were that after being under the pyramid for a few minutes, the patients' pain started to go away.

- They also found that the burn areas healed much faster.

- One of the most interesting accounts of Pyramid power was cited by Serge King in his book, Pyramid Energy Handbook. In this book, King speaks of ways people can help their dogs, cats, fish and fowl. He explains, "One of my researchers recently reported that she placed a pyramid over the cage of an excitable bird. The bird immediately flew to the top of the cage in an apparent attempt to get as close to the pyramid as possible and has since remained far more calm than before"

- The pyramid puts things back the way they are supposed to be; it makes things more perfect. The one frequency that is common with all elements is the carrier wave. The vector angle of energy formed by the carrier wave frequency is 52.606º. This pyramid we have built is both a transmitter and receiver in one. This is why we can build a pyramid out of any material, and it will work. The elements in the material used for the pyramid start to oscillate

- When an object is placed inside the pyramid, it receives the information that makes it up on a stronger or amplified basis. It makes no difference what is put into it. The razor blade will stay sharp because the information that makes up those microscopic metal crystals will try to remain in their original shape by trying to move atoms to the areas worn away.
- etc....
http://www.algonet.se/~anki-p/pyramidpower.ht...
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continued...
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#5 Nov 9, 2011
continuation...

Sir Issac Newton and Charles Smyth were firm believers in Pyramid Power.

A Short History of Pyramidology
"Sir Isaac Newton, for example, himself a keen pyramidologist, notoriously spent as much time on alchemical experiments and biblical interpretation as he did on the
work in mathematics and physics for which he is now honoured."

"..even a reputable scientist such as Scotland's Astronomer Royal, Charles Piazzi Smyth (1819-1900), working in the 19th century, was convinced that the structure's proportions were inspired by the Christian God."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptian...
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Here is a link to the History of Pyramidology that is very similar similar to the AGW link "The Discovery of Global Warming".

History of Pyramidology
http://www.algonet.se/~anki-p/pyramidologyhis...

The Discovery of Global Warming
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/summary.ht...
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Summary of the Case for Pyramid Power:

- The Pyramid Power belivers cite the "Effects" listed above as proof of the Pyramid Power "Cause".
- There are famous Scientists like Sir Issac Newton that were Pyramidologists
- In fact, there is no "science" or "measurements" to support the Existance of Pyramid Power.
- The Pyramid Power "Cause" does not exist for the "Effects" that the Pyramid Power belivers talk about.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#6 Nov 9, 2011
Climate science is more like scientology.
There is no science of AGW, Glowbull warming, climate change or global climate disruption.
budd

Hua Hin, Thailand

#7 Nov 10, 2011
An entire thread for your silly red herring argument? You are a funny guy Gord. Not very smart, but funny.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#8 Nov 13, 2011
budd wrote:
An entire thread for your silly red herring argument? You are a funny guy Gord. Not very smart, but funny.
If the entire thread is a "silly red herring argument" then explain WHY.

You could start by explaining why you either believe or do not believe that Pyramid Power is "science".

Come on Budd, don't be so shy and TELL US.
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We already know that you won't discuss WHY you can't post:

- Even ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect
- Even ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth

And we already know that you won't discuss the FACT that EVERY MEASUREMENT, EVER DONE, confirms the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and that a Colder

Atmosphere CANNOT HEAT UP a Warmer Earth.
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I wonder why Budd ALWAYS refuses to discuss Science and Measurement FACTS?

The answer is here:
Are AGW'ers Cult Members?
Yes...134....93%
No....10.....6%
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

This was my last post to "Budd" in the Are AGW'ers Cult Members? forum:

"Now Watch as "Budd" totally ignores the questions asked and reverts to the classic Cult behaviour outlined in 1, 7, 8, 9 and 10 above."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
budd

Bangkok, Thailand

#9 Nov 13, 2011
Let me help you out Gordy.

Red Herring
Explanation

The red herring is as much a debate tactic as it is a logical fallacy. It is a fallacy of distraction, and is committed when a listener attempts to divert an arguer from his argument by introducing another topic. This can be one of the most frustrating, and effective, fallacies to observe.

The fallacy gets its name from fox hunting, specifically from the practice of using smoked herrings, which are red, to distract hounds from the scent of their quarry. Just as a hound may be prevented from catching a fox by distracting it with a red herring, so an arguer may be prevented from proving his point by distracting him with a tangential issue.

...and now on to your primary argument.

You say the Greenhouse effect is fantasy. You then go on to define it, and ask me to defend your definition.

Your def. of Greenhouse effect...

a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth

As I have stated over and over the Greenhouse effect does not heat the Earth it slows the cooling. All the heat comes from the sun.

By using your definition you are pitching a straw man fallacy.

Here is an explanation of your tactic.

Straw Man Fallacy
Explanation

A straw man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. This, of course, is a fallacy, because the position that has been claimed to be refuted is different to that which has actually been refuted; the real target of the argument is untouched by it.

So you see, you remain just a silly silly goose. This time you weren't even funny. No HOOTs and HAHAs.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#10 Nov 14, 2011
budd wrote:
You say the Greenhouse effect is fantasy. You then go on to define it, and ask me to defend your definition.
Your def. of Greenhouse effect...
a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth
LIAR!

Budd, how many times have I told you that I am not using MY definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect"???

I am using the IPCC AR4 Report definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" !!!

The "Greenhouse Effect" as defined by the IPCC AR4 Report, requires that Heat Radiation (called Back Radiation) from the Colder (-20 deg C) Atmosphere to flow to the Warmer (+15 deg C) Earth surface and HEAT-UP the much warmer Earth Surface.

You can read all about the IPCC AR4 Report and their fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" that includes Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (a Graph showing heat flows) here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

I also have the IPCC AR4 Report "Greenhouse Effect" definition Posted in THIS THREAD see "The Case for AGW":
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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Here is the last time I "Explained" that little FACT, DIRECTLY to YOU, and YOU DID NOT ANSWER !!:

"Gee Budd, are you saying that I wrote the IPCC AR4 Report that defines The "Greenhouse Effect" as Heat Radiation (called Back Radiation) from the Colder (-20 deg C) Atmosphere to flow to the Warmer (+15 deg C) Earth surface and HEAT-UP the much warmer Earth Surface?

You can read all about the IPCC AR4 Report and their fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" that includes Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (a Graph showing heat flows) here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Does that mean that the IPCC's definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" is a "straw man version of the Greenhouse effect" ???

Answer the QUESTION, BUDD!

Also, Why can't YOU POST:

- Even ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect?
- Even ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth?

Answer the QUESTION, BUDD!

Watch as BUDD has another Panic Attack and RUNS FOR THE HILLS.

How Pathetic."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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budd wrote:
As I have stated over and over the Greenhouse effect does not heat the Earth it slows the cooling. All the heat comes from the sun.
I will ask YOU AGAIN....
"Does that mean that the IPCC's definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" is a "straw man version of the Greenhouse effect" ???

Answer the QUESTION, BUDD!"

Regarding your silly rant "the Greenhouse effect does not heat the Earth it slows the cooling":
- Slowing the COOLING is still COOLING, NOT HEATING....YOU IDIOT!
- How can a COOLING Earth have GLOBAL WARMING ???
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And, You have NOT RESPONDED TO THIS:

"You could start by explaining why you either believe or do not believe that Pyramid Power is "science".

Come on Budd, don't be so shy and TELL US."

OR ANSWERED THIS:

I wonder why Budd ALWAYS refuses to discuss Science and Measurement FACTS?

The Reason is OBVIOUS and just as I PREDICTED:

"Now Watch as "Budd" totally ignores the questions asked and reverts to the classic Cult behaviour outlined in 1, 7, 8, 9 and 10 above."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

You are just another AGW CULT MEMBER!

HAHAHA...What a HOOT!
budd

Bangkok, Thailand

#11 Nov 14, 2011
Pasty pasty with some HOOTs and HAHAs Yaaaaaa!

Liar? Oh my.

Now Gordo, The words "a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth" do not appear in any IPCC reports and you know it, so stop pretending your straw man is from the IPCC. You wrote that little ditty, now take credit for it you silly man.

Silly Gordo. You always overstate back radiation as exceeding the suns radiation. A colder object can radiate heat toward a warmer object what it cannot do is radiate more heat than the warmer object.

The atmosphere does back radiate heat but it does not heat the Earth it slows the Earths cooling, but then you know that. You gotta be pretending you're this silly. It is fun though keep it up, and don't forget the HOOTs and HAHAs.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#13 Nov 14, 2011
budd wrote:
Pasty pasty with some HOOTs and HAHAs Yaaaaaa!
Liar? Oh my.
Now Gordo, The words "a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth" do not appear in any IPCC reports and you know it, so stop pretending your straw man is from the IPCC. You wrote that little ditty, now take credit for it you silly man.
Silly Gordo. You always overstate back radiation as exceeding the suns radiation. A colder object can radiate heat toward a warmer object what it cannot do is radiate more heat than the warmer object.
The atmosphere does back radiate heat but it does not heat the Earth it slows the Earths cooling, but then you know that. You gotta be pretending you're this silly. It is fun though keep it up, and don't forget the HOOTs and HAHAs.
LIAR!

Here is Trenberth's Earth Energy Budget Diagram:
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/cgd...

Trenberth's Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (used by the IPCC) shows that:

- The Back-Radiation from the Cold Atmosphere ABSORBED and heating the Earth's surface is 333 w/m^2
- The SUN, the ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, is shown to provide only 161 w/m^2 ABSORBED to heat the Earth's Surface !!!
- The Earth radiates 396 w/m^2.

Hey Budd, is the Back-Radiation of 333 w/m^2 GREATER THAN the the Sun's 161 w/m^2 ???

Well IS IT?....YOU LIAR!
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Using the Stefan-Boltzmann Law

P/A = BC*T^4 (Watts/Meter^2)

T =((P/A)/BC)^0.25

Where P/A = RADIATED w/m^2 or ABSORBED w/m^2, P = Watts, BC = Stefan's constant (5.67 X 10^-8), A = area, T = temperature of the body.

The SUN, the ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, provides only 161 w/m^2 to heat the Earth's Surface and would produce a Earth's Surface temperature of T = 230.84 K or -42.16 deg C!!!

The Colder Atmosphere radiates 333 w/m^2 which would HEAT the Earth's Surface to a temperature T = 276.83 K or 3.83 deg C !!!

The Earth radiates 396 w/m^2 and the temperature is T = 289.08 K or +16.08 deg C

That means that the Back-Radiation from the COLDER ATMOSPHERE HEATED THE EARTH from -42.16 deg C (that the SUN is responsible for) to a whopping +16.08 deg C !!!

This not only Violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynmics;

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow.
Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

...it also Violates The Law of Conservation of Energy because:

- The ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, the Sun only provides 161 w/m^2 while the Colder Atmosphere that IS NOT AN ENERGY SOURCE provides 333 w/m^2 !!!
- The Law of Conservation of Energy states that Energy CANNOT be Created or Destroyed and the AGW NUTS have CREATED ENERGY!
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I'm STILL WAITING for your answers to these Questions:

will ask YOU AGAIN....
"Does that mean that the IPCC's definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" is a "straw man version of the Greenhouse effect" ???

Answer the QUESTION, BUDD!"

Regarding your silly rant "the Greenhouse effect does not heat the Earth it slows the cooling":
- Slowing the COOLING is still COOLING, NOT HEATING....YOU IDIOT!
- How can a COOLING Earth have GLOBAL WARMING ???

And, You have NOT RESPONDED TO THIS:

"You could start by explaining why you either believe or do not believe that Pyramid Power is "science".

Come on Budd, don't be so shy and TELL US."

OR ANSWERED THIS:

I wonder why Budd ALWAYS refuses to discuss Science and Measurement FACTS?
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The Reason is OBVIOUS and just as I PREDICTED:

"Now Watch as "Budd" totally ignores the questions asked and reverts to the classic Cult behaviour outlined in 1, 7, 8, 9 and 10 above."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Budd is a PROVEN LIAR and just another AGW CULT MEMBER!

HAHAHA...What a HOOT!
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#14 Nov 14, 2011
budd wrote:
Pasty pasty with some HOOTs and HAHAs Yaaaaaa!
Liar? Oh my.
Now Gordo, The words "a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth" do not appear in any IPCC reports and you know it, so stop pretending your straw man is from the IPCC. You wrote that little ditty, now take credit for it you silly man.
Silly Gordo. You always overstate back radiation as exceeding the suns radiation. A colder object can radiate heat toward a warmer object what it cannot do is radiate more heat than the warmer object.
The atmosphere does back radiate heat but it does not heat the Earth it slows the Earths cooling, but then you know that. You gotta be pretending you're this silly. It is fun though keep it up, and don't forget the HOOTs and HAHAs.
LIAR!

Here is Trenberth's Earth Energy Budget Diagram:
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/cgd...

Trenberth's Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (used by the IPCC) shows that:

- The Back-Radiation from the Cold Atmosphere ABSORBED and heating the Earth's surface is 333 w/m^2
- The SUN, the ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, is shown to provide only 161 w/m^2 ABSORBED to heat the Earth's Surface !!!
- The Earth radiates 396 w/m^2.

Hey Budd, is the Back-Radiation of 333 w/m^2 GREATER THAN the the Sun's 161 w/m^2 ???

Well IS IT?....YOU LIAR!
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Using the Stefan-Boltzmann Law

P/A = BC*T^4 (Watts/Meter^2)

T =((P/A)/BC)^0.25

Where P/A = RADIATED w/m^2 or ABSORBED w/m^2, P = Watts, BC = Stefan's constant (5.67 X 10^-8), A = area, T = temperature of the body.

The SUN, the ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, provides only 161 w/m^2 to heat the Earth's Surface and would produce a Earth's Surface temperature of T = 230.84 K or -42.16 deg C!!!

The Colder Atmosphere radiates 333 w/m^2 which would HEAT the Earth's Surface to a temperature T = 276.83 K or 3.83 deg C !!!

The Earth radiates 396 w/m^2 and the temperature is T = 289.08 K or +16.08 deg C

That means that the Back-Radiation from the COLDER ATMOSPHERE HEATED THE EARTH from -42.16 deg C (that the SUN is responsible for) to a whopping +16.08 deg C !!!

This not only Violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynmics;

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow.

Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

...it also Violates The Law of Conservation of Energy because:

- The ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, the Sun only provides 161 w/m^2 while the Colder Atmosphere that IS NOT AN ENERGY SOURCE provides 333 w/m^2 !!!
- The Law of Conservation of Energy states that Energy CANNOT be Created or Destroyed and the AGW NUTS have CREATED ENERGY!
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I'm STILL WAITING for your answers to these Questions:

I will ask YOU AGAIN....
"Does that mean that the IPCC's definition of the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" is a "straw man version of the Greenhouse effect" ???

Answer the QUESTION, BUDD!"

Regarding your silly rant "the Greenhouse effect does not heat the Earth it slows the cooling":
- Slowing the COOLING is still COOLING, NOT HEATING....YOU IDIOT!
- How can a COOLING Earth have GLOBAL WARMING ???

And, You have NOT RESPONDED TO THIS:

"You could start by explaining why you either believe or do not believe that Pyramid Power is "science".

Come on Budd, don't be so shy and TELL US."

OR ANSWERED THIS:

I wonder why Budd ALWAYS refuses to discuss Science and Measurement FACTS?
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The Reason is OBVIOUS and just as I PREDICTED:

"Now Watch as "Budd" totally ignores the questions asked and reverts to the classic Cult behaviour outlined in 1, 7, 8, 9 and 10 above."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Budd is a PROVEN LIAR and just another AGW CULT MEMBER!

HAHAHA...What a HOOT!
budd

Bangkok, Thailand

#15 Nov 14, 2011
Gord wrote:
<quoted text>
LIAR!
Here is Trenberth's Earth Energy Budget Diagram:
http://www.nar.ucar.edu/2008/ESSL/catalog/cgd...
Trenberth's Trenberth's Energy Balance Diagram (used by the IPCC) shows that:
- The Back-Radiation from the Cold Atmosphere ABSORBED and heating the Earth's surface is 333 w/m^2
- The SUN, the ONLY ENERGY SOURCE, is shown to provide only 161 w/m^2 ABSORBED to heat the Earth's Surface !!!
- The Earth radiates 396 w/m^2.
Hey Budd, is the Back-Radiation of 333 w/m^2 GREATER THAN the the Sun's 161 w/m^2 ???
Well IS IT?....YOU LIAR!
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HAHAHA...What a HOOT!
Gordy Gordy Gordy...The chart says that the Earth radiates 396Wm2 well below the rate of back radiation. Busted Gordy!

Bringing up the rate of absorption by the surface is either just stupid or dishonest since the back radiation is coming from the atmosphere you dope.

Finally, and I really think you have missed this completely. Take a look at the map placed at the bottom of the chart. It represents the entire Earth. At any given time half of the Earth is in sunlight half of it is not. The yellow(ish) portion on the right is daytime, the beige part is night. Now go back and look at it again you silly silly man.

I do appreciate the HOOTs and HAHAs though.
budd

Bangkok, Thailand

#16 Nov 14, 2011
Gord wrote:
<quoted text>

- Slowing the COOLING is still COOLING, NOT HEATING....YOU IDIOT!
- How can a COOLING Earth have GLOBAL WARMING ???

HAHAHA...What a HOOT!
Silly silly Gord doesn't understand night time. Yes Gordy the Earth cools at night, at a rate much slower than it would absent the greenhouse effect. If greenhouse gasses are increased then back radiation would increase thereby slowing the rate of cooling at night even further. That would increase temperatures at night, and raise morning starting temperatures.

It really is amazing that I have to explain this to you.

HOOT HOOT.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#18 Nov 14, 2011
Gases, Dudd.
budd

Bangkok, Thailand

#19 Nov 14, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
Gases, Dudd.
Ya got me old Fartling. Dammit!
harvey

Columbus, OH

#20 Nov 14, 2011
Another worthless "poll" from notorious Canuck crackhead and hysteric Gord-0, who evidently is on a government pension and has nothing better to do than be a professional Denier.

Denierism is FAR more similar to pyramid "science" than to the real thing. And of course the REAL basis for Denierism is a simple little thing called "doing what the Big Energy companies tell us."

LOL
harvey

Columbus, OH

#21 Nov 14, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
Climate science is more like scientology.
There is no science of AGW, Glowbull warming, climate change or global climate disruption.
Apparently Gord-0's hysteria is rubbing off on tired old Spanish recluse Dung, who's given up entirely on occasional admissions that the globe is warming and is playing the straight Denier card.

Deny reality, that'll work about as well as denying your own mortality, old boy! LOL
SpaceBlues

United States

#22 Nov 14, 2011
budd wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya got me old Fartling. Dammit!
No, he didn't. A lot of people spell your way in USA. And they are not English.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gas

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