Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

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Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.
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litesong

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Good that toxic topix AGW deniers, who have no science or mathematics degrees, no science & mathematics for their poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas & may not have hi skule DEE-plooomaas at all, know the Earth better than AGW scientists who have 10 to 16 more years education in science & mathematics. toxic topix AGW deniers are an infinite pool of unknowledge, entertainment, & sometimes racist comments, & full-blown alleged & proud threats.
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PhD scientists know Global Warming is a Hoax!
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litesong wrote:
Since 'marred & tinny joke' can't do science or mathematics, it puts words in AGW scientists mouths.

Good that toxic topix AGW deniers, who have no science or mathematics degrees, no science & mathematics for their poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas & may not have hi skule DEE-plooomaas at all, know the Earth better than AGW scientists who have 10 to 16 more years education in science & mathematics. toxic topix AGW deniers are an infinite pool of unknowledge, entertainment, & sometimes racist comments, & full-blown alleged & proud threats.
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Kyle wrote:
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Listen up, nutter:
There are damn good reasons to convince others - as I've already stated.
Listen up again, wingnut:
The non-professional deniers are the sheeple; believing propositions that are demonstrably false, peddled by blatantly biased people with financial interests in the status quo, even though they constantly peddle long-refuted arguments, obvious lies, and the same nonsensical non sequiturs that the deniers here specialize in.
Listen up one last time, sheeple:
The only propositions that I or scientists, or any rational, HONEST people advance are those supported by observation and the scientific method. Congratulations for a post just as lame and science-free as the last two losers.
Now, post some science that supports your views or shut the hell up.
To be exposed as a chsrlatan and a fanatic can be very hurtful, and one cannot blame you for the unrestrained nature of your reply.But your defense of your position needs light ,not fire, and one sees very little of that. Faked and altered treports from those in need of publ;icity are not helpful to your campaign.
THE LONE WORKER

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Could all of the space debry that falls back to earth have anything to do with the ozone layer problem? What about all of the rockets that burn through to outer space to send stuff that will eventually come back down ?

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martinezjosei wrote:
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Instruct yourself and stop being deceived.
I bet you swear he is NOT Muslims, right?
I bet you are clueless why he goes away during Ramadan!
I bet it is a conspiracy that he invites terrorist to the White House and hides their name from the public, right!
http://grendelreport.posterous.com/obama-trie...
You are so ignorant, there is no hope for you!
If that wasn't subversive enough, we discover that the Obama White House is covering up the Muslim Brotherhood proxies and stealth jihadists at the Ramadan celebration bombathon.
Why are they hiding? Because they know. And they know that we know.
Obama's Iftar guest list omitted attendees with links to Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood Jihad Watch
But they were there. ISNA has admitted ties to both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. "Obama’s Iftar guest list omits controversial attendees," by Neil Munro in the Daily Caller, August 11:
The White House’s published guest list for this year’s Ramadan Iftar dinner was much shorter than previous years’ roster. It excluded the names of several controversial advocates who have attended the event in the past, including some who The Daily Caller can confirm did attend on Wednesday night.
“It was a squeaky clean list,” said Durriya Badani, director of the U.S.-Islamic World Forum, an annual event organized by the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center and the Qatari government. The guests on the published list are “not controversial at all,” said Badani, whose name is on the list the White House provided to reporters.
“It was a lot more low-key … It was a more intimate event this year,” said Haris Tarin, the Washington director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, whose invitation was kept off the published list.“I have no idea why they didn’t publish [MPAC’s invite]… I’m going to learn about that a little bit more,” he told The Daily Caller.
Mohamed Magid also attended but did not appear on the White House’s publish list. Magid is imam of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society mosque in Northern Virginia and the current president of the Islamic Society of North America. Along with MPAC, Magid’s two organizations have drawn criticism from a loose network of online critics who claim they are sympathetic to Islamist groups....
The list also excluded a few controversial attendees, such as Tarin from MPAC and Mohamed Magid, who is the imam of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society mosque in Northern Virginia and the current president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).
Critics of Tarin’s and Magid’s organizations — including the Investigative Project on Terrorism — use the Internet to publish court records, translate Arab-language media reports, and record information released by Muslim advocacy groups in the United States and overseas. For example, court records now available online show that the federal government designated ISNA an unindicted co-conspirator during the 2008 trial of Texas Muslims who smuggled money to the Hamas terror group....
I see, some folks are wacko about politics as well as science. Good grief! Get a life and break away from the ditto-head club. I'll bet that you don't believe President Obama's birth certificate and really think that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD and aluminum centrifuge tubes.

It is crystal clear that the Earth is warming and that human activities account for a significant amount of the warming.
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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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I see, some folks are wacko about politics as well as science. Good grief! Get a life and break away from the ditto-head club. I'll bet that you don't believe President Obama's birth certificate and really think that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD and aluminum centrifuge tubes.
It is crystal clear that the Earth is warming and that human activities account for a significant amount of the warming.
As Chicken Little would say," I only said the sky was falling, I didn't say when. It came to me in a SCIENTIFIC REPORT that I read."
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kapt krunched wrote:
As Chicken Little would say," I only said the sky was falling, I didn't say when.
I didn't say when the sky would fall, but in 2010, I pointed out the following about falling ice:

The recently collapsed Wilkens Ice Shelf was estimated 10,000 years old.
The recently collapsed Ward Hunt Ice Shelf was estimated 4500 years old.
The recently collapsed Larsen B Ice Shelf was estimated 12.000 years old.

All collapsed within 7 years of each other.
4500 years old..........7 years
10,000 years old.......7 years
12,000 years old.......7 years

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As Chicken Little would say," I only said the sky was falling, I didn't say when. It came to me in a SCIENTIFIC REPORT that I read."
And some folks don't even know how high the sky is.....
Kyle

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martinezjosei wrote:
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Instruct yourself and stop being deceived.
I bet you swear he is NOT Muslims, right?
I bet you are clueless why he goes away during Ramadan!
I bet it is a conspiracy that he invites terrorist to the White House and hides their name from the public, right!
http://grendelreport.posterous.com/obama-trie...
You are so ignorant, there is no hope for you!
If that wasn't subversive enough, we discover that the Obama White House is covering up the Muslim Brotherhood proxies and stealth jihadists at the Ramadan celebration bombathon.
Why are they hiding? Because they know. And they know that we know.
Obama's Iftar guest list omitted attendees with links to Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood Jihad Watch
But they were there. ISNA has admitted ties to both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. "Obama’s Iftar guest list omits controversial attendees," by Neil Munro in the Daily Caller, August 11:
The White House’s published guest list for this year’s Ramadan Iftar dinner was much shorter than previous years’ roster. It excluded the names of several controversial advocates who have attended the event in the past, including some who The Daily Caller can confirm did attend on Wednesday night.
“It was a squeaky clean list,” said Durriya Badani, director of the U.S.-Islamic World Forum, an annual event organized by the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center and the Qatari government. The guests on the published list are “not controversial at all,” said Badani, whose name is on the list the White House provided to reporters.
“It was a lot more low-key … It was a more intimate event this year,” said Haris Tarin, the Washington director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, whose invitation was kept off the published list.“I have no idea why they didn’t publish [MPAC’s invite]… I’m going to learn about that a little bit more,” he told The Daily Caller.
Mohamed Magid also attended but did not appear on the White House’s publish list. Magid is imam of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society mosque in Northern Virginia and the current president of the Islamic Society of North America. Along with MPAC, Magid’s two organizations have drawn criticism from a loose network of online critics who claim they are sympathetic to Islamist groups....
The list also excluded a few controversial attendees, such as Tarin from MPAC and Mohamed Magid, who is the imam of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society mosque in Northern Virginia and the current president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).
Critics of Tarin’s and Magid’s organizations — including the Investigative Project on Terrorism — use the Internet to publish court records, translate Arab-language media reports, and record information released by Muslim advocacy groups in the United States and overseas. For example, court records now available online show that the federal government designated ISNA an unindicted co-conspirator during the 2008 trial of Texas Muslims who smuggled money to the Hamas terror group....
LISTEN UP, YOU MENTAL MIDGET!:

Doubling down on demented conspiracist diversionary attempts fools no one. Post some science or concede honestly.
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I do not believe government grants dependent Liberal scientists with an agenda!
Neither should you!
Unless you are a big government Liberal like them!
Show me a Global Warming alarmist like you with a NON-Big government solution and I will listen!
In the mean time, stop hiding your socialist agenda behind a global warming HOAX.
You failed completely yet again. When can we expect your honest concession?

Response to idiocy of idiotic argument that climate changed before = non-existent

Response to my rebuttal regarding the incredible stupidity of your chosen mythical conspiracy vs the unhidden "conspiracy" that's behind your denialism = non-existent

Robotic repitition of loony conspiracy claims anyway = dishonest form of concession

More politics; still NO SCIENCE = dishonest concession

Accusations that IM liberal though I've already told you my views = dogmatic narrow -mindedness

Calls GW a hoax in all caps; once again mistaking bare assertion for a logical argument = dumber than a sack of hammers
Kyle

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Had you counted the ones that KNOW Global Warming is a Hoax? Had you?
FACTS:

The number is more like 98%.

The other 2% are almost entirely people who quibble about one or two minor conclusions.

The handful of actually qualified climate scientists who actually believe as you do are exactly like Roy Spencer, who I've already discredited so thoroughly that you dishonest morons that brought him up refuse to discuss him now.

Science content that refutes the mountains of published, peer-reviewed science that essentially 99.99% of those who know best all agree upon = ZERO .... AS ALWAYS!
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Scientist at the Institute of John Q Public have determined that the cause of global warming has been attributed to one geographical area on Earth. That place is D.C. Scientist have found very telling evidence of a large output of hot gases emanating from the Capitol Building and the White House. Scientist conclude that the only way to reverse the trend is with one simple solution- throwout all the incumbents.
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Can you show that Global Warming creates colder temperatures?
Still waiting!
Yes, I could, but even if you could understand it, you would not accept it because you're a dogmatic ideologue. BTW, you've never asked me this incredibly lame diversionary question before, so why make it seem like I refused to answer?

That said, I do refuse .... precisely because it's an incredibly lame diversionary tactic to avoid your utter failure.

Can you post any actual science that supports your denial? Hmmm?
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Do you find it curious that GW ALARMISTS are attached to government and individuals profiting from carbon credits and socialism?
Al Gore is prime example!
I did find it tedious that you repeated unsupported and ridiculously improbable CT (How did Gore corrupt every competent climate scientist into falsifying all of the published, peer-reviewed science and every national science academy on the planet?) while completely ignoring the openly available information regarding the origins and funding of denial.

And your inability to post science or concede is getting damn tedious, too. ;o)
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Correct!
It is ALL about more excuses for higher taxes!
Bare assertion = most retarded of all fallacious arguments

Yet more non-science diversions but no science. Wonder why?
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martinezjosei wrote:
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Liberalism must be defeated, period!
But it self-destruct itself eventually!
Political ideology has ZERO effect on validity of science. The subject of the thread is GW; all the infantile attempts to conflated your many distractions with the science are not only tiresome, they serve to show the vacuity of denier science.
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I did find it tedious that you repeated unsupported and ridiculously improbable CT (How did Gore corrupt every competent climate scientist into falsifying all of the published, peer-reviewed science and every national science academy on the planet?) while completely ignoring the openly available information regarding the origins and funding of denial.
And your inability to post science or concede is getting damn tedious, too. ;o)
Money sometimes is a good tool to use when trying to influence someone. Al Gore would know that to, being a fat cat DC politician.
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PhD scientists know Global Warming is a Hoax!
One or two claim to do so.

Thousands actually know that it's incredibly well supported science with thousands of peer reviewed, published studies looking at it from many, many angles.

Your use of Argument by Bare Assertion = a very clear concession that you couldn't formulate a valid argument with a gun to your head.

What a complete loser! Keep posting, dude; you're our secret weapon; exposing denial for the idiocy that it is.
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Money sometimes is a good tool to use when trying to influence someone. Al Gore would know that to, being a fat cat DC politician.
And Exxon Mobil and the Koch's would, too, being that they give millions to those who've created the denial movement.

So you're another loon that can manufacture a huge, impossible conspiracy backing the science but can't see the open one opposing it, right?
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<quoted text> Just like the hero who predicted that the last major ice age was coming as a result of camp fire smoke.... genius.
That whole thing is just another denier lie that will not die .... because ignorant deniers refuse to process info that refutes their predetermined conclusions .... and because knowledgeable deniers are bald-faced liars.
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To be exposed as a chsrlatan and a fanatic can be very hurtful, and one cannot blame you for the unrestrained nature of your reply.But your defense of your position needs light ,not fire, and one sees very little of that. Faked and altered treports from those in need of publ;icity are not helpful to your campaign.
Please post sourced information that reports were faked or altered so that I can post the definitive refutations that deniers can't or won't process.

Or in any other way show that I've been exposed as a charlatan. Your claim is unsupported because it's unsupportable. My only claims are that you deniers cannot refrain from non-stop diversions nor can you post any science because the science is against you.

Got science? Post it now or concede.

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