Greenland Glacier Loses Nearly 3 Miles Of Ice...Overnight.

[kookboy]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe he thinks it's an ice sheet giving birth to baby icebergs, which in a way I suppose it is.

Well, it also means - Giving birth to a calf. He must have combined the two definitions.

[Earthling]

kookboy wrote:

Well, it also means - Giving birth to a calf. He must have combined the two definitions.

An easy mistake for someone who says things like:

"the science isn't going to change."

"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change."

[kookboy]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>An easy mistake for someone who says things like:
"the science isn't going to change."
"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change."

Well, he is a "borderline intellectual" after all.

[LessHypeMoreFact]

kookboy wrote:

<quoted text>
He just doesn't know what "calving" means.
Calving -(geology) The breaking off of a mass of ice from its parent glacier, iceberg, or ice shelf.

Yes. But a breakoff of a sheet of ice kilometers in extent is not calving. See http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/cold-sci... and find ANY reference to Larsen B 'calving' off.

You just have to take every chance you can find to show youself to be an uneducated kook don't you?

[Earthling]

That's a good report from usatoday.com because it doesn't mention the word calving?

Here's another site that does mention 'calving' of a 70 x 25 km iceberg:

In January 1995, two events on the Larsen Ice Shelf attracted public attention: the calving of a 70 - by 25-kilometre iceberg from the Larsen B; and the disintegration of the remainder of the Larsen A.

http://www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/Lars...
We're arguing semantics again.
What constitutes calving, breaking off or disintegration?
And does anyone really care what it's called when it amounts to the same thing?
As far as LessFact's concerned, we're, "uneducated" because he thinks we use the wrong terminology.

Why should that bother anyone, when the same person argues that forty is fourty and spelt is spelled?
Not only, but also, how is it possible to discuss anything with someone who write stuff like this:

"Deforestations is a consequence of AGW,...."

"Alberta is not my country"

"This occurred when land life was limited to insects and plants so there were no species TO drive to extinction."

"Predictions are for astrologers."

"the science isn't going to change."

"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change."

[Brian_G]

Don't fear melting ice, it's a summertime treat.

[Earthling]

Brian_G wrote:

Don't fear melting ice, it's a summertime treat.

The part I don't like, is when a glass filled with ice and liquid condenses airborne water vapour on the outside, most annoying.

[LessHypeMoreFact]

Earthling wrote:

That's a good report from usatoday.com because it doesn't mention the word calving?
Here's another site that does mention 'calving' of a 70 x 25 km iceberg:

So you found one site that misused the word. Woooo Hoooooo

Earthling wrote:

We're arguing semantics again.
What constitutes calving, breaking off or disintegration?
And does anyone really care what it's called when it amounts to the same thing?

Nah. That is YOUR game. And you continue it even in this post. Your other tactic is mindless reporsts of my statements that you don't understand. Of course, you also don't understand the context or reasoning behind most of them. Because you don't understand you think somehow they must be wrong??

Earthling wrote:

As far as LessFact's concerned, we're, "uneducated" because he thinks we use the wrong terminology.
Why should that bother anyone, when the same person argues that forty is fourty and spelt is spelled?

I don't recall arguing the spelling of spelled (spelt is a hexaploid species of wheat)

Earthling wrote:

Not only, but also, how is it possible to discuss anything with someone who write stuff like this:
"Deforestations is a consequence of AGW,...."
"Alberta is not my country"
"This occurred when land life was limited to insects and plants so there were no species TO drive to extinction."
"Predictions are for astrologers."
"the science isn't going to change."
"While the science doesn't change rapidly it does change."

By understanding what they say and using your brain for something other than a hatrack.

i.e

Alberta is a province, not a country.

Scientists use 'forecasts'. The misuse of the term 'predictions' for forecasts can be seen by the fact that science is never absolute (forecasts have percentages). Predictions are for astrologers since they claim perfect accuracy.

But instead of debating or understanding, you just collect lists. What a bozo.

[Brian_G]

Greenland Glacier Loses Nearly 3 Miles Of Ice...Overnight.

Oops!

Did you look in the sea? Maybe the ice melted.

[Earthling]

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

So you found one site that misused the word.

Here are about 152,000 results for ice calving, take your pick:
http://www.google.es/search...

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Your other tactic is mindless reporsts of my statements that you don't understand.

More like, "reporsts" of things you don't understand.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Of course, you also don't understand the context or reasoning behind most of them. Because you don't understand you think somehow they must be wrong??

Aha, the old 'out of context' defence again.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I don't recall arguing the spelling of spelled (spelt is a hexaploid species of wheat)

Of course you don't remember, you have no memory.
Here's the actual quote:

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

But you didn't spell 'spelled' right.. Spelt is a type of ancient grain.

Remember now?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Alberta is a province, not a country.

So you were wrong when referring to Alberta as a country, same difference.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Scientists use 'forecasts'. The misuse of the term 'predictions' for forecasts can be seen by the fact that science is never absolute (forecasts have percentages). Predictions are for astrologers since they claim perfect accuracy.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions, you're an idiot.
Here are about 12,400,000 results for >scientific predictions on global warming<
http://www.google.es/search...

NB: Did you manage to look up and check the spelling of forty yet, or do you still claim it's spelt fourty?

[LessHypeMoreFact]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>Here are about 152,000 results for ice calving, take your pick:

I am sure that there are millions of sites that use the word CORRECTLY to describe the fragmentation and loss of ice at the glacier front.

I was referring to how many sites MISUSE the word for other events such as breakup of large ice sheets or the breakoff of large ice tongues.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
Here's the actual quote:<quoted text>Remember now?<quoted text>So you were wrong when referring to Alberta as a country, same difference.<quoted text>Thanks for confirming my suspicions, you're an idiot.

Yes. I corrected you about Alberta which you claimed was 'my country'. And yes, you called me an idiot for knowing the difference between a province and a country.

[Earthling]

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I am sure that there are millions of sites that use the word CORRECTLY to describe the fragmentation and loss of ice at the glacier front.

Link to them if you can?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I was referring to how many sites MISUSE the word for other events such as breakup of large ice sheets or the breakoff of large ice tongues.

The only word you objected to, was calving, so please avoid lying wherever possible.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Yes. I corrected you about Alberta which you claimed was 'my country'.

Nope, you claimed it wasn't your country and here's your original quote to prove it:

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Alberta is not my country

Alberta is a province of Canada, not a country.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

And yes, you called me an idiot for knowing the difference between a province and a country.

Which of course you are, Mr Spelt Fourty.

[LessHypeMoreFact]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
Link to them if you can?

A duel of google searches? Even 'argument by popularity' ought to be treated with more respect than THAT.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
The only word you objected to, was calving, so please avoid lying wherever possible.

I objected to calving as a description of the breakup of several square miles of glacier. It is still the wrong term. That is truth, not lie.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
Nope, you claimed it wasn't your country and here's your original quote to prove it:

Yes. I do not count Alberta as a country much less as MY country. That they have a 'petro-state' economy AS A PROVINCE, unlike my COUNTRY Canada, was the point. Do you alwasy have this level of problem with simple semantics?

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
Alberta is a province of Canada, not a country.

Exactly. We agree that Alberta is not my country and Canada is NOT a 'petro-state'.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>Which of course you are, Mr Spelt Fourty.

Still confuseed about the English Language I see.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spe...

Main Entry: 1spell
Pronunciation:\&#712;spel\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): spelled \&#712;speld, &#712;spelt\; spell·ing
Etymology: Middle English, to mean, signify, read by spelling out letters, from Anglo-French espeleir, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English spellian to relate, spell talk
Date: 14th century

Note that it is PRONOUNCED as 'spelt' but only an ignorant boor thinks it is SPELLED as spelt.

I give you fourty years to learn enough to understand simple English. But of course, to YOU 'English' is a foreign language. You speak some sort of pidgin argot composed of a lot of American sprinkled with a total lack of erudition.

[Earthling]

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

A duel of google searches? Even 'argument by popularity' ought to be treated with more respect than THAT.

But you bother to link to Merriam Webster, an American dictionary, as opposed to an English dictionary, which you claim to be the language you learned/learnt?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I objected to calving as a description of the breakup of several square miles of glacier. It is still the wrong term. That is truth, not lie.

It's only truth as far as you're concerned, but there is no size restriction where calving is concerned.calving: Process whereby portions of a glacier's leading edge break off as icebergs into an adjacent body of water.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O13-calving....
Calving: Breaking off and floating away as icebergs of either a tidewater glacier or an ice shelf. Calving is a very efficient form of ablation, thus helps stabilize the extent of ice sheets (like Antarctica) which might otherwise expand continuously from a positive mass budget.
http://www.homepage.montana.edu/~geol445/hype...

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Yes. I do not count Alberta as a country much less as MY country. That they have a 'petro-state' economy AS A PROVINCE, unlike my COUNTRY Canada, was the point. Do you alwasy have this level of problem with simple semantics?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

You're quite a simple chap, aren't you?
Alberta is a province of Canada, Albertans are Canadians, just like you, therefore Alberta is not a country, consequently you were wrong when you said, "Alberta is not my country," simply because Alberta is nobody's, "country."[QUOTE who="LessHypeMoreFact "]Exactly. We agree that Alberta is not my country and Canada is NOT a 'petro-state'.

No sir, I agree that Alberta is not a country, nothing more.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Still confuseed about the English Language I see.

Not as, "confuseed" as you, apparently.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spe...
Main Entry: 1spell
Pronunciation:\&#712;spel\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): spelled \&#712;speld, &#712;spelt\; spell·ing
Etymology: Middle English, to mean, signify, read by spelling out letters, from Anglo-French espeleir, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English spellian to relate, spell talk
Date: 14th century
Note that it is PRONOUNCED as 'spelt' but only an ignorant boor thinks it is SPELLED as spelt.

We're back to you linking to an American dictionary, again.
I've already posted links to prove that spelled or spelt are both correct when written, as are learned and learnt.
Check this Oxford English Dictionary link for confirmation.

spelt 1
…past and past participle of spell…

http://oxforddictionaries.com/search...

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I give you fourty years to learn enough to understand simple English. But of course, to YOU 'English' is a foreign language. You speak some sort of pidgin argot composed of a lot of American sprinkled with a total lack of erudition.

Calling me names won't make you right, but it certainly makes you more foolish for arguing when you're in an indefensible position from which there is no escape other than surrender.
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(forties) the numbers from forty to forty-nine, especially the years of a century or of a person's life: Terry was in his early forties

http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en...
If you disagree with the Oxford Dictionary, I pity you, forty is spelt forty in all English speaking countries.

[Earthling]

Correction of quotes in post #34:

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Yes. I do not count Alberta as a country much less as MY country. That they have a 'petro-state' economy AS A PROVINCE, unlike my COUNTRY Canada, was the point. Do you alwasy have this level of problem with simple semantics?

You're quite a simple chap, aren't you?
Alberta is a province of Canada, Albertans are Canadians, just like you, therefore Alberta is not a country, consequently you were wrong when you said, "Alberta is not my country," simply because Alberta is nobody's, "country."

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Exactly. We agree that Alberta is not my country and Canada is NOT a 'petro-state'.

No sir, I agree that Alberta is not a country, nothing more.

[LessHypeMoreFact]

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
But you bother to link to Merriam Webster, an American dictionary, as opposed to an English dictionary, which you claim to be the language you learned/learnt?

Spelled is correct in either British or American dictionaries. That you bring it up (while living in Spain) makes me assume that this point is just distraction.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
<quoted text>It's only truth as far as you're concerned, but there is no size restriction where calving is concerned.calving: Process whereby portions of a glacier's leading edge break off as icebergs into an adjacent body of water.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O13-calving....
Calving: Breaking off and floating away as icebergs of either a tidewater glacier or an ice shelf. Calving is a very efficient form of ablation, thus helps stabilize the extent of ice sheets (like Antarctica) which might otherwise expand continuously from a positive mass budget.

And breaking away of large blocks of ice or disintegration of large areas of ice sheet can hardly be considered 'ablation'. Look it up, dimwad.

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
No sir, I agree that Alberta is not a country, nothing more.

You called Canada a 'petro-state'. I pointed out that only ALBERTA fit the defiinition of petro-state and Alberta is not Canada ( my country ). THat you can still be shitting around on this simple error on your part is mind boggling. Do you have ANY intellectual honesty?

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
Not as, "confuseed" as you, apparently.<quoted text>We're back to you linking to an American dictionary, again.
I've already posted links to prove that spelled or spelt are both correct when written, as are learned and learnt.
Check this Oxford English Dictionary link for confirmation.
<quoted text>
http://oxforddictionaries.com/search...

I learned English at least fourty years ago as my native tongue. Dictionaries tend to 'drift' as people add words, phrases, and misuses such as the phonetic equivalents. Pretty soon they will include L8R as the spelling of later.

But that doesn't mean that I will accept various mispellings (often driven by illiteracy in the U.S.) as 'valid'.

http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/english/2006/06...

Seems to indicate that Forty has become accepted universally. Oh, well. It is hard to argue against ignorance. They always have more ammunition...

Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>
<quoted text>Calling me names won't make you right, but it certainly makes you more foolish for arguing when you're in an indefensible position from which there is no escape other than surrender.
-
<quoted text>
http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en...
If you disagree with the Oxford Dictionary, I pity you, forty is spelt forty in all English speaking countries.

I have no intention of surrendering to the forces of ignorance. You can spell it any way you want. No worse than my typos or transpositions from fast typing. Only YOU make it a 'big issue'.

[Brian_G]

Lost.. overnight?

Have you ever lost anything s l o w l y ?

It's always in the last place you look.

[Earthling]

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Spelled is correct in either British or American dictionaries.

It certainly is, no one ever said it wasn't.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

That you bring it up (while living in Spain) makes me assume that this point is just distraction.

You brought it up first when you claimed that 'spelt' was a misspelling, which, of course, it isn't.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

And breaking away of large blocks of ice or disintegration of large areas of ice sheet can hardly be considered 'ablation'.[Insult deleted]

Ablation isn't the word we're discussing, that's you trying to confuse yourself even more than you already are.
'Calving' is the description you objected to, remember?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

You called Canada a 'petro-state'.

No, I never have.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I pointed out that only ALBERTA fit the defiinition of petro-state and Alberta is not Canada ( my country ).

Twist and squirm, change the words, lie about what I wrote, but remember your original comment.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Alberta is not my country.

OK?

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

THat you can still be shitting around on this simple error on your part is mind boggling.

Error on my part?
You're hilarious.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Do you have ANY intellectual honesty?

What you appear know about intellectual honesty could be written on the back of a postage stamp or maybe it's just your bad memory.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I learned English at least fourty years ago as my native tongue.

But you still can't spell forty, how odd.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

Dictionaries tend to 'drift' as people add words, phrases, and misuses such as the phonetic equivalents

Forty has been spelt the same way for a very long time, maybe a King John's biblical quote will convince you?

For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
-- Genesis 7: 4 (KJV)

You could always look it up if you don't believe me.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

But that doesn't mean that I will accept various mispellings (often driven by illiteracy in the U.S.) as 'valid'.

By your own admission, you've accepted that misspelling for over forty years.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/english/2006/06...
Seems to indicate that Forty has become accepted universally. Oh, well. It is hard to argue against ignorance. They always have more ammunition...

You've confirmed the truth of that by continually displaying it.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

I have no intention of surrendering to the forces of ignorance.

You appear to have done that a long time ago.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

You can spell it any way you want.

Thanks, I'll continue to spell it correctly.

LessHypeMoreFact wrote:

No worse than my typos or transpositions from fast typing. Only YOU make it a 'big issue'.

Your reply proves that.

[Earthling-1]

Update on ice calving for LessFactMoreHype, AKA, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, he who claims that ice calving is restricted to small chunks:

LessFactMoreHype wrote:

With calving you don't get more than a small difference in the endpoint. You don't 'calve' a chunk of ice 2.7 square miles in extent.

And:

LessFactMoreHype wrote:

I objected to calving as a description of the breakup of several square miles of glacier. It is still the wrong term.
That is truth, not lie.

It's odd that so many people get the description wrong, but only LessFact gets it right.
-
Major calving events
In October, 1988, the A-38 iceberg broke away from the Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf. It was about 150 km x 50 km, a mass of ice bigger than the area of Delaware. A second calving occurred in May 2000 and created an iceberg 167 km x 32 km.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_calving

[Earthling-1]

LessFact was good fun to play with when he argued about English spelling, fourty, spelt, ice calving, CO2 not being vital for life, ethanol being an octane booster, New Moore Island being in the mouth of several rivers, the equator not having, "season," predictions, "polination," epistemologists and the many other schoolboy howlers he made.
Now he's not even sure who he is, one day it's NobodyYouWantToKnow, the next it's back to LessFactMoreHype, both of them sad individuals.