CO2 as a, "thermal pollutant."

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#1 Sep 19, 2011
NobodyYouWantToKnow wrote:
That CO2 cannot be a 'pollutant'? Wrong. Anything CAN and IS a pollutant in a specific context. In this case, as a greenhouse gas causing 'thermal pollution' of the planet.
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The point is really that the whole claim of 'CO2 is vital to life' and 'CO2 is plant food' promoted by Earthling is not so much that it is technically wrong, but that it is IRRELEVANT to the issue of CO2 as a 'thermal pollutant'. Agreed?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
NB: I didn't, "promote CO2 as a plant food."

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#2 Sep 19, 2011
thermal pollution

Definition
Heated water discharge from industrial processes that can kill aquatic life and drastically disrupt an ecosystem.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/...

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#3 Sep 19, 2011
Thermal Pollution
The broadest definition of thermal pollution is the degradation of water quality by any process that changes ambient water temperature. Thermal pollution is usually associated with increases of water temperatures in a stream, lake, or ocean due to the discharge of heated water from industrial processes, such as the generation of electricity.

Read more: Thermal Pollution - water, effects, environmental, United States, types, impact, industrial, wells, power, sources, use, Sources, Environmental Effects, Abatement http://www.pollutionissues.com/Te-Un/Thermal-...
NB: No mention of CO2 on that page.

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#4 Sep 19, 2011
Thermal pollution - Definition and main cause
Thermal pollution is basically the form of water pollution that refers to degradation of water quality by any process that changes ambient water temperature. The main cause of thermal pollution is our industry, or to be more precise power plants that use water as a coolant. After this water has been used as coolant it is returned to its natural environment at a higher temperature.
http://pollutionarticles.blogspot.com/2011/06...
NB: Still no mention of CO2.

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#5 Sep 19, 2011
"In air, thermal pollution is limited to the heat island effect caused by cites. Cities trap and radiate more heat than forests and fields. The warmer air makes thermal currents in the air which can act as a barrier to the normal wind patterns. This in turn affects the rainfall on the far side (down wind) of the city."

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#6 Sep 19, 2011
There are no references for CO2 as a thermal pollutant, even Glowbull warming proponents know that:
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Thermal Pollution NOT CO2 causes Global Warming
http://revisitenergy.com/why-revisit-energy/3...

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#7 Sep 22, 2011
thermal pollution
 
noun
a rise in the temperature of rivers or lakes that is injurious to water-dwelling life and is caused by the disposal of heated industrial waste water or water from the cooling towers of nuclear power plants.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/therma...
Still no mention of CO2.

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#8 Nov 20, 2011
No listing for 'thermal pollutant' exists, except in the mind of Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, backed up by Bozo, of course.

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#9 Feb 7, 2012
At last he has responded, but as LessFactMoreHype, not his alter ego, NobodyYouEverWantToKnow.

His hilarious claim stands, CO2 is a thermal pollutant, "a greenhouse gas causing 'thermal pollution' of the planet?"
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Yes. Obviously. Try reading the science. Nature or Science is available in your local library (I assume) for free. Beyond that you can check out the serious science web portals.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

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#10 Feb 9, 2012
This thread could end up like the how to spell 40 thread, no one confirming either way whether or not CO2 could be a thermal pollutant or cause thermal pollution of the planet.

It's understandable, because CO2 cannot be a thermal pollutant, there is no such thing as a thermal pollutant.

For thermal pollution, see post #4.

Google "thermal pollutant" with quotation marks, it's hilarious.

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#11 Feb 11, 2012
We've had another response from Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, it's very similar to the last one, but just as inaccurate and contains his usual insulting language.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Try reading either the science journals or even these threads. They are all about 'thermal pollution' of the planet by GHGs. If you cannot understand that yet, see a doctor about your growing senility.
<quoted text>
Both the noun and adjective are well defined. Try reading a dictionary.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
There is no mention of the existance of 'thermal pollutant' in any 'science journals' or even these threads, excepting LessFact's comments.

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#12 Feb 11, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
There is no mention of the existance of 'thermal pollutant' in any 'science journals' or even these threads, excepting LessFact's comments.
Existence, not existance.
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#13 Feb 11, 2012
You see, nobody cares. You just made a proverbial jackass out of yourself again.

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#15 Feb 12, 2012
Late as usual Bozo wrote:
You see, nobody cares.
I don't blame them.
A real Bozo wrote:
You just made a proverbial jackass out of yourself again.
The real jackass would be a Canadian living in Toronto, who spells forty with a U and says things like epistemologists compile dictionaries, Samuel Johnson was an American, ice calving is restricted by size, "the equator doesn't have season," cars can be charged with road collisions, Enercon install offshore wind generators, vikings didn't know how to live in a warmer Greenland, "Deforestations is a consequence of AGW," Alberta is a country, "insects and plants" don't qualify as species, "Scientific laws" aren't science, that predictions are just for astrologers, ethanol is a very workable and effective solution, America only has two political parties, climate and weather are not 'linked', thinks 'nondenier' is a real word,'fruiting plants' are especially chosen by bees for, "polination," we acted on CFCs in the 70s and that "AGW is caused by Solar cycles."
Patriot AKA Bozo

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#16 Feb 13, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't blame them.<quoted text>The real jackass would be a Canadian living in Toronto, who spells forty with a U and says things like epistemologists compile dictionaries, Samuel Johnson was an American, ice calving is restricted by size, "the equator doesn't have season," cars can be charged with road collisions, Enercon install offshore wind generators, vikings didn't know how to live in a warmer Greenland, "Deforestations is a consequence of AGW," Alberta is a country, "insects and plants" don't qualify as species, "Scientific laws" aren't science, that predictions are just for astrologers, ethanol is a very workable and effective solution, America only has two political parties, climate and weather are not 'linked', thinks 'nondenier' is a real word,'fruiting plants' are especially chosen by bees for, "polination," we acted on CFCs in the 70s and that "AGW is caused by Solar cycles."
I see that you are still braying.....

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#17 Feb 13, 2012
No show Bozo wrote:
I see that you are still braying.....
I see you're unable to provide any evidence that CO2 is a thermal pollutant.

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#18 Mar 2, 2012
Just another Bozo wrote:
DEPENDS upon how you interpret the definition of a thermal pollutant. CO2 does increase the temperature. That is a thermal event. Since many understand that a hotter atmosphere will become problematic it is not incorrect to say that CO2 is a pollutant because it causes the atmosphere to heat. Thus can we call it a thermal pollutant?

pollutant:

Definition
In general, substance or energy introduced into the environment that has undesired effects, or adversely affects the usefulness of a resource. A pollutant may cause long- or short-term damage by changing the growth rate of plant or animal species, or by interfering with human amenities, comfort, health, or property values. Pollutants may be classified by various criteria:(1) By the origin: whether they are natural or man-made (synthetic).(2) By the effect: on an organ, specie, or an entire ecosystem.(3) By the properties: mobility, persistence, toxicity.(4) By the controllability: ease or difficulty of removal.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

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#19 Mar 2, 2012
Then along comes the ass licker:
SpamBot wrote:
Yes, we can call it "thermal pollutant."

Others have posted similarly.

What "minus one" does not grasp is that science people also invent terms that go into the dictionary.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
LessHypeMoreFact

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#20 Mar 2, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
Thermal Pollution
The broadest definition of thermal pollution is the degradation of water quality by any process that changes ambient water temperature.
That is just one example of 'thermal pollution' and not the entire book.
Nor does the term distinguish the CAUSE of thermal pollution. It can be the discharge of nuclear reactors. But it is not defined as that. It is a noun and an adjective, which together indicate a situation where there are problems from a change in temperature (it doesn't distinguish from hottter vs colder) that is a result of a pollutant (CO2 and the greenhouse effect, or discharge from a nuclear reactor cooling system into a river, or..)

Pollutant is defined as some unwanted element that is introduced and causes problems. It can be any substance that is not wanted. The term is relevant ONLY in context. And the problems can be from acidity, temperature, toxicity, etc.

But of course, this is just more paid 'distraction' to avoid the realities of global pollution from industrial output of GHGs and fine particles. Hope you are being paid enough.

And for the intelligent posters, just a suggestion, "don't feed the trolls".
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#21 Mar 2, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
Then along comes the ass licker:<quoted text>
I think you had another misspelling.You meant to say.

"Then along comes the ass kicker:"

And yes, he kicks your ass... And has your number..

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