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Climate Scientist James Hansen Arrested at Protest

There are 61 comments on the LiveScience story from Sep 29, 2010, titled Climate Scientist James Hansen Arrested at Protest. In it, LiveScience reports that:

At a protest in Washington, D.C., yesterday against mountaintop removal coal mining, climate scientist James Hansen was arrested along with dozens of other protestors.

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Earthling

Spain

#1 Sep 29, 2010
The incredible number of 100 outraged people staged a protest and Jimbo was there.
30 were arrested, Jimbo made it 31.
The man's a nutter, he should be certified and placed carefully in an institution for the mentally insane.
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From another report:
"NASA scientist Dr. James Hansen, faith leaders, and more than 100 people were arrested today during a protest today at the White House over mountaintop removal."
kal

United States

#2 Sep 29, 2010
Earthling wrote:
The incredible number of 100 outraged people staged a protest and Jimbo was there.
30 were arrested, Jimbo made it 31.
The man's a nutter, he should be certified and placed carefully in an institution for the mentally insane.
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From another report:
"NASA scientist Dr. James Hansen, faith leaders, and more than 100 people were arrested today during a protest today at the White House over mountaintop removal."
that's some funny stuff there earthling, none of us could make this kind of stuff up... can't put him away yet though...his grant on global warming still has money coming in!
Northie

Spokane, WA

#3 Sep 29, 2010
Go Jim! It's nice to see at least one brilliant, world-leading scientist who isn't afraid to stand up in public for the truth.

Can you just imagine the witch hunt that's going on right now among rich energy lobbyists like Myron Ebell, trying to dig up something--anything!--with which to discredit Dr. Hansen? Good on Hansen for putting up with it and staying the course.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#4 Sep 29, 2010
From Dr. Hansen's statement at the protest:

"Our government allows and contributes to a great hoax, perpetrated on the public by moneyed interests, aimed at confusing the public about the reality of climate change. We are in danger of becoming the land for the rich and the home of the bribe. More than 200 years after the founding of our nation, we face a great moral crisis. Human-made climate change pits the rich and powerful against the young and unborn, against the defenseless, and against nature. The moral issue is comparable to slavery and civil rights."

Well put, doc. Very well put.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#5 Sep 29, 2010
Northie wrote:
From Dr. Hansen's statement at the protest:
Well put, doc. Very well put.
It is true too. The assault on the public from 'mis information' as a way to pacify and disrupt democratic input is one of the unfortunate 'side effects' of fascism.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14ch...

6: Controlled Mass Media
"Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. "

The 'disinformation' wars are just a new tactic in a very old game. While I do not encourage scientists in general to become radicalized, it is certain that SOME will speak up in outrage over the issues. If the public doesn't take up the cause, I fear that freedom will become extinguished in the US as the 'denial machine' become entrenched to feed industry supplied 'pravda' on cue.
Cousin Jethro

Kissimmee, FL

#6 Sep 29, 2010
Earthling wrote:
The incredible number of 100 outraged people staged a protest and Jimbo was there.
30 were arrested, Jimbo made it 31.
The man's a nutter, he should be certified and placed carefully in an institution for the mentally insane.
-
From another report:
"NASA scientist Dr. James Hansen, faith leaders, and more than 100 people were arrested today during a protest today at the White House over mountaintop removal."
Perhaps you should move to Germany to be with your BG -- fascist friend, Dirtling -- they have demonstrated such ways of containing dissident thinkers and exterminating them...then of course right where you are in Spain there was your apparent idol, Franco -- Hitler's buddy.

Perhaps if a mining company wanted to flatten Mr. Snowdon, you might get a better impression of what they're protesting -- but with your hateful macaroni vision I've come to doubt you have any goodness left in you
Cousin Jethro

Kissimmee, FL

#7 Sep 29, 2010
Cousin Jethro

Kissimmee, FL

#8 Sep 29, 2010
neighbour

High River, Canada

#9 Sep 29, 2010
Northie wrote:
From Dr. Hansen's statement at the protest:
"Our government allows and contributes to a great hoax, perpetrated on the public by moneyed interests, aimed at confusing the public about the reality of climate change. We are in danger of becoming the land for the rich and the home of the bribe. More than 200 years after the founding of our nation, we face a great moral crisis. Human-made climate change pits the rich and powerful against the young and unborn, against the defenseless, and against nature. The moral issue is comparable to slavery and civil rights."
Well put, doc. Very well put.
Yes, and don't expect the rich and powerful to have any kind of "Scrooge" change of heart.
A century or so ago, when the Canadian government was debating laws on child labour, the politicians who were owned by the coal mining companies argued that removing child labour would make the mines unprofitable, because the shafts would have to be made bigger.
Big business has never been susceptible to an appeal to conscience. The stakes are so high, that the leadership is given to people whose only motive is competitive success.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#10 Sep 29, 2010
neighbour wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and don't expect the rich and powerful to have any kind of "Scrooge" change of heart.
A century or so ago, when the Canadian government was debating laws on child labour, the politicians who were owned by the coal mining companies argued that removing child labour would make the mines unprofitable, because the shafts would have to be made bigger.
Big business has never been susceptible to an appeal to conscience. The stakes are so high, that the leadership is given to people whose only motive is competitive success.
Yes, but fortunately some of the powerful are wiser than the coal and oil pimps. As much as I admire activist scientists like Hansen, the real movement is coming from CEOs and political leaders who've decided they don't want to leave their grandkids a cinder for a planet. Jim Rogers, Jeff Immelt and Bill Gates all deserve a shout out, as do those CEOs who quit the US Chamber of Commerce over its denial of climate cooking: Steve Jobs, Phil Knight, John Rowe and others.
neighbour

High River, Canada

#11 Sep 29, 2010
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but fortunately some of the powerful are wiser than the coal and oil pimps. As much as I admire activist scientists like Hansen, the real movement is coming from CEOs and political leaders who've decided they don't want to leave their grandkids a cinder for a planet. Jim Rogers, Jeff Immelt and Bill Gates all deserve a shout out, as do those CEOs who quit the US Chamber of Commerce over its denial of climate cooking: Steve Jobs, Phil Knight, John Rowe and others.
It's important to distinguish between rich individuals and faceless corporations.

Ultra-successful people have personal convictions just like the rest of us do. And good for them. But a broadly held corporation is not controlled by any individual human being, so is unlikely to have such a thing as a moral sense. In a broadly based public corporation, the CEO and Chairman are employees, and the people put in that position will be people whose convictions are aligned with the corporate needs.

Most of the names you give, are people who control their own companies and are free to follow their own ethical convictions. As for Immelt (GE) and Rowe, I guess their actions speak well for the boards of their respective corporations.
Earthling

Spain

#12 Sep 30, 2010
Norfie, neighbour, LessFactMoreHype, Cousin Jed.
Why weren't you all there at the rally?
You could have swelled the number by 4 and been arrested.
Hmm, I doubt any of you even knew it had been organised, so much for dedication to the cause, eh?
You're all lazy armchair protestors, fighting for your cause with words, on a forum which most people use for amusement.
GEEWIZ

Ashland, KY

#13 Sep 30, 2010
lock the nutty fruit cake up and throw away the key.The man is 100%CLUELESS.A reclaimed mine is a really a great place.theres 2 many mountians LEVEL LAND IS NEEDED.The COAL companies do a service provide JOBS and LEVEL LAND,SO THE STATE and FEDERAL GOV.do not have 2 spend BILLIONS on making LEVEL LAND.Most mountians will never be touched the ones that are help the economy=land 4 wildlife+can be used 4 something.BLOW the top off them MOUNTIANS.hANSEN=NUTCASE The man should be ashamed trying 2 take FOOD and jobs from MINERS TRYING 2 FEED THERE family.
Cousin Jethro

Ocoee, FL

#14 Sep 30, 2010
Earthling wrote:
Norfie, neighbour, LessFactMoreHype, Cousin Jed.
Why weren't you all there at the rally?
You could have swelled the number by 4 and been arrested.
Hmm, I doubt any of you even knew it had been organised, so much for dedication to the cause, eh?
You're all lazy armchair protestors, fighting for your cause with words, on a forum which most people use for amusement.
Spoken like a true Treblinka guard -- why weren't you there arresting them? Are you still under house arrest for your previous crimes, as the Angel of Stupidity on other threads? You are truly a loathsome creature and your descendants may come to resemble CHUD, if they do not already
Cousin Jethro

Ocoee, FL

#15 Sep 30, 2010
GEEWIZ wrote:
lock the nutty fruit cake up and throw away the key.The man is 100%CLUELESS.A reclaimed mine is a really a great place.theres 2 many mountians LEVEL LAND IS NEEDED.The COAL companies do a service provide JOBS and LEVEL LAND,SO THE STATE and FEDERAL GOV.do not have 2 spend BILLIONS on making LEVEL LAND.Most mountians will never be touched the ones that are help the economy=land 4 wildlife+can be used 4 something.BLOW the top off them MOUNTIANS.hANSEN=NUTCASE The man should be ashamed trying 2 take FOOD and jobs from MINERS TRYING 2 FEED THERE family.
Here, Earthling is your lot -- ignorant CHUD -- take him with you to go colonize Mars -- there's much higher mountains to flatten, there -- just go and we'll send you a couple of shovels, your uniform and a whip, later
Earthling

Spain

#16 Sep 30, 2010
Cousin Jethro wrote:
there's much higher mountains to flatten, there -
Oops, grammar, professor, grammar.
Cousin Jethro

Ocoee, FL

#17 Sep 30, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>Oops, grammar, professor, grammar.
Sufficient for the likes of you, CHUD
Earthling

Spain

#18 Sep 30, 2010
Northie wrote:
the real movement is coming from CEOs and political leaders who've decided they don't want to leave their grandkids a cinder for a planet.
Congratulations, it's really good to know that my comments haven't been wasted and that you've at last accepted the fact that even the rich and powerful have feelings for their offspring.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#19 Sep 30, 2010
neighbour wrote:
<quoted text>
It's important to distinguish between rich individuals and faceless corporations.
Ultra-successful people have personal convictions just like the rest of us do. And good for them. But a broadly held corporation is not controlled by any individual human being, so is unlikely to have such a thing as a moral sense. In a broadly based public corporation, the CEO and Chairman are employees, and the people put in that position will be people whose convictions are aligned with the corporate needs.
Most of the names you give, are people who control their own companies and are free to follow their own ethical convictions. As for Immelt (GE) and Rowe, I guess their actions speak well for the boards of their respective corporations.
Sure, some business leaders do operate from personal convictions that go behind short-term shareholder returns. You just don't see many of those--if any--in the coal and oil industry, and that's the biggest industry on the planet, by far.

What I see developing is a developing battle between the carbon industry and everyone else; other industries, governments, peoples. It's as if the entire world became addicted to a deadly drug, then found itself at war with the dealers when some smart folks confirmed the drug's dangers and suggested we all kick the habit. It's becoming everyone against the dealers, yet no one is in a hurry to quit the drug either.
litesong

Pittsburgh, PA

#20 Sep 30, 2010
GEEWIZ wrote:
The man should be ashamed trying 2 take FOOD and jobs from MINERS TRYING 2 FEED THERE (sic...even capitalized a misspelled word) family.
There is lots of work in Kentucky. But the poverty rate is 17%, despite 2/3rds of those in poverty having working people in the family. The heads of the companies have been busy leveling mountains to fatten their profits, but do not raise worker incomes even to the level of poverty.

Geewhizcheezwhiz argues for billionaire companies. Geewhizcheezwhiz uses the poor, but does NOT know the poor.

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