'The War Is Not Over'

[bill smith]

WASHINGTON D.C., April 1 - In an unprecedented move, Democratic hopeful Barack Obama announced that former Governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, will become his running mate in the 2008 race to the White House
http://www.topix.com/holidays/april-fools-day...

[eurohypocrusty]

who wrote:

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Could have been Auschwitz.
There's also what sounds like a gun shot...did you hear that?
My ears tell me that those sounds were added later.

lol yah I heard it....hydraulics and a door slam....or auschwitz and a gun shop...

i contort u deride

[eurohypocrusty]

gun shot i meant

[bill smith]

eurohypocrusty wrote:

<quoted text>what do u think of this one?
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3175...

A sensible precaution in a country with a relatively high Muslim population, and not in a country that does't.

[Homer DeBrave]

butterfly effect wrote:

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All right.
In my eyes, the six day war was not preemptive strike at all, it was blitzkrieg aimed at ensuring the hegemony for the years to come… if you are aware of the defensive capabilities of Arab nations, then you know why I'd state what I've just stated… From healthy and unbiased perspective, it was nothing but a slaughter, which is, in retrospective, something what Israel does every now and then…
Good thing is, each time they do it, they are condemned, which in return gives faith, that lots of people have some insights on the whole despicable sham.

What to hex are you talking about?

The armies of Egypt, Syria and Jordan were all massed in offensive pose and about to begin a coordinated invasion to wipe Israel off the map. Israel got wind of this and struck just in time, and brilliantly well.

To the Wikiwoodshed with you, where Gold Meir will administer your spanking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_day_war

[crusty]

bill smith wrote:

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A sensible precaution in a country with a relatively high Muslim population, and not in a country that does't.

sounds rascist to me

[nuno]

who wrote:

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I agree with you....So does the government.
Blair said that the UK's future lay firmly with Europe. I think these things take time, jingoism and all that.
I'm all for greater UK/EU cooperation in several areas, including the military, and I think we should have adopted the Euro a while ago, unfortunately just the mention of moving away from the Pound raises the vapours in your average Sun reader.
Wewl...it's yer bleedin Paaaaand innit.....an the frogs an kraaaats ain't like wot we is.

The Euro has benefited every country which has adopted it. Britain has a good example of just how wealthy a country can be less than an hours journey accross the Channel. This obsession England has with America is damaging Britain, and if you were to follow in the French example for once, life could improve by a great deal in the UK.

Compared to other EU countries Britain lags behind economicaly, which is something that is even visible when you walk through any other EU nation. There is a feeling of being very far behind and it seems the relationship with the US is part of the problem. Britain does not benefit from this "friendship" and i believe America does in fact not like England as England apparently loves it.

[crusty]

I thought wise voters had deflected all this stuff

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...

[eurohypocrusty]

nuno wrote:

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The Euro has benefited every country which has adopted it. Britain has a good example of just how wealthy a country can be less than an hours journey accross the Channel. This obsession England has with America is damaging Britain, and if you were to follow in the French example for once, life could improve by a great deal in the UK.
Compared to other EU countries Britain lags behind economicaly, which is something that is even visible when you walk through any other EU nation. There is a feeling of being very far behind and it seems the relationship with the US is part of the problem. Britain does not benefit from this "friendship" and i believe America does in fact not like England as England apparently loves it.

How many dead americans planted in europe? Must of been for our hatred of euros....

[Dave C]

nuno wrote:

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Does America know what real democracy is? America voted for George W Bush two times, they made their choice and seemed not to regret or question it. The majority of Americans here seem not to regret this either.
If Americas economic problems worsen, Europe stands to benefit from this. Americans and Europeans seem to be quite different, both have different values and political views for example. So what does the UK have in common with the US? Democracy looks to have a different meaning in both countries, American demcoracy being opressive and UK democracy being liberal.
Germany and France have seperated themselves from American affairs and they are doing alot better than the UK economicaly and socially. Britain is not even in the top ten richest nations in the world. France and Germany have much stronger economy's and better living standards, not to mention health. British people work the longest hours in Europe, pay the highest taxes and suffer the worst health problems. So surely following in the European example is more beneficial for Britain?

Do you in the UK and the rest of Europe know what democracy is? Do you respect elections and their outcome even if they don’t turn out the way you would have liked? You have criticized us for having the Death Penalty but did you vote to repeal yours or did someone just decide for you? In this country, the Death Penalty is a State law and is decided on a state ballot. It has been on the ballot here in California at least three times and I have voted for it along with the majority and that is why we still have it here. You may not like it, you may consider it barbaric, but it is the “will of the people” and that is democracy.
Did you vote on the “Gay Marriage” issue or did someone decide they knew best. In this country you can’t dig a 12ft deep hole without an “environmental impact study”, so when the idea of redefining marriage was introduced, many of us wanted a say in the matter and the majority didn’t approve of the new standard. You may not like our decision, but it was our decision and that is democracy.
Did you vote on the “abortion issue” or did the government simply tell you “they know best”. We didn’t get a chance to vote on that one and it has been extremely controversial ever since.
Did you vote on your national healthcare system or did the government make that decision for you. I personally don’t believe any government is competent enough to be in charge of my healthcare. Apparently many of you in the UK feel the same way because according to Nightshift many of you have private insurance. To paraphrase “any government powerful enough to provide you with everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have”. I’m not paranoid of my government, I just know that for it to provide for my needs and the needs of all of its citizens (we have over 300 million), it would have to be huge and a government that large is not going to be flexible enough to do the will of the people.

[who]

eurohypocrusty wrote:

<quoted text>lol yah I heard it....hydraulics and a door slam....or auschwitz and a gun shop...
i contort u deride

LOL!! That wasn't hydraulics or a door slamming.
I've driven plenty of buses Crusty, they don't make noises like that.
It's hard to say what was said but that's no door...thunder maybe.

[eurohypocrusty]

nuno wrote:

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The Euro has benefited every country which has adopted it. Britain has a good example of just how wealthy a country can be less than an hours journey accross the Channel. This obsession England has with America is damaging Britain, and if you were to follow in the French example for once, life could improve by a great deal in the UK.
Compared to other EU countries Britain lags behind economicaly, which is something that is even visible when you walk through any other EU nation. There is a feeling of being very far behind and it seems the relationship with the US is part of the problem. Britain does not benefit from this "friendship" and i believe America does in fact not like England as England apparently loves it.

Yah follow those french will ya.....thanks good advice

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_re_...

[nuno]

Dave C wrote:

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Do you in the UK and the rest of Europe know what democracy is? Do you respect elections and their outcome even if they don’t turn out the way you would have liked? You have criticized us for having the Death Penalty but did you vote to repeal yours or did someone just decide for you? In this country, the Death Penalty is a State law and is decided on a state ballot. It has been on the ballot here in California at least three times and I have voted for it along with the majority and that is why we still have it here. You may not like it, you may consider it barbaric, but it is the “will of the people” and that is democracy.
Did you vote on the “Gay Marriage” issue or did someone decide they knew best. In this country you can’t dig a 12ft deep hole without an “environmental impact study”, so when the idea of redefining marriage was introduced, many of us wanted a say in the matter and the majority didn’t approve of the new standard. You may not like our decision, but it was our decision and that is democracy.
Did you vote on the “abortion issue” or did the government simply tell you “they know best”. We didn’t get a chance to vote on that one and it has been extremely controversial ever since.
Did you vote on your national healthcare system or did the government make that decision for you. I personally don’t believe any government is competent enough to be in charge of my healthcare. Apparently many of you in the UK feel the same way because according to Nightshift many of you have private insurance. To paraphrase “any government powerful enough to provide you with everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have”. I’m not paranoid of my government, I just know that for it to provide for my needs and the needs of all of its citizens (we have over 300 million), it would have to be huge and a government that large is not going to be flexible enough to do the will of the people.

Thats what i mean when i say America is opressive. The points you just made there about the death penalty, gay marriage and the NHS are just basic human rights. The death penalty is barbaric and Europeans wanted rid of it. The NHS provides free health care for all citizens of the UK, where as you have no choice but to pay for it if you want a good standard of health care. Gay marriage is a basic human right which was late in coming due to government priorities being else where. Different countries in the UK have different laws just as your states do.

Did you vote to cut funding to abortion clinics or was that decision made for women by your government?

Did the Black man have the vote by 1929 like all people in the UK did?

Did you vote for Health insurance or did that just result from American capitalism and belief in a free market even when it comes to human lives?

I would say although the UK has many problems, it is more democratic than the US. Freedom of speech in America is poor compared to the United Kingdom, as is your freedom of press.

[eurohypocrusty]

who wrote:

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LOL!! That wasn't hydraulics or a door slamming.
I've driven plenty of buses Crusty, they don't make noises like that.
It's hard to say what was said but that's no door...thunder maybe.

he he

least my ears are not as bad as I thought..

howzit
aushcwitz

[chazmo]

who wrote:

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Don't you think more transparency in banking and investment is a good thing?

See?...

Common ground is easy to find....

[eurohypocrusty]

who wrote:

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I agree with you....So does the government.
Blair said that the UK's future lay firmly with Europe. I think these things take time, jingoism and all that.
I'm all for greater UK/EU cooperation in several areas, including the military, and I think we should have adopted the Euro a while ago, unfortunately just the mention of moving away from the Pound raises the vapours in your average Sun reader.
Wewl...it's yer bleedin Paaaaand innit.....an the frogs an kraaaats ain't like wot we is.

U guys getting enuff to eat who?

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Ph...

[who]

bill smith wrote:

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A sensible precaution in a country with a relatively high Muslim population, and not in a country that does't.

Geert Wilders is an Israeli stoolie with strong ties to Mossad. Just another hate monger.
I should make a film on all the vile quotes from the Talmud, and then use it to generalize all Jews as evil and dangerous.......Oh wait, been done already.
Europe should be careful when it comes to people like Mr Wilders, all they add is hate.

[who]

eurohypocrusty wrote:

<quoted text>he he
least my ears are not as bad as I thought..
howzit
aushcwitz

Actually it sounded more like "how shit". I wish I could slow it down and play it backwards....LOL!!

[ABs]

who wrote:

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Geert Wilders is an Israeli stoolie with strong ties to Mossad. Just another hate monger.
I should make a film on all the vile quotes from the Talmud, and then use it to generalize all Jews as evil and dangerous.......Oh wait, been done already.
Europe should be careful when it comes to people like Mr Wilders, all they add is hate.

So you are against freedom of expression? I didn't like that Old Yeller had to be killed in the end of that movie...he was such a good dog...

[who]

eurohypocrusty wrote:

<quoted text>U guys getting enuff to eat who?
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Ph...

No...that fat knacker keeps eating all the pies.

Why the hell would anyone want 3 arses?