Five myths about gay marriage

[Green Fairy]

Honest AbeL wrote:

Now try reading what I actually wrote. As always you fail in the discussion part of life. Take your tissue out of your purse now
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You took 2 hrs to make a lame comeback,Tge one that's weak and pathetic is you.

[Cheyenne277]

Honest AbeL wrote:

Nope it is just the self centered little queers who can't seem to have respect for their own families. Why would anybody support these people?
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http://www.gayhusbands.com/

GET HELP.

[TomInElPaso]

Ah yes, yet another generation of incestuous bigotry. Thankfully they, unlike you, will have Gay and lesbian friends in their lives if you like it or not. Kids hate hate and they soon learn to hide their true feeling from their bigoted, hate filled parents. Weve changed the world quite successfully when we took down the closet doors.

. Kids now know better than their hateful parents.

Honest AbeL wrote:

You can never seem to stay on topic. You are so weak you always have to try the personal insults. My kids know right from wrong
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[TomInElPaso]

No one here cares what you have to say, your as useless as tits on a bull.

Honest AbeL wrote:

Now try reading what I actually wrote. As always you fail in the discussion part of life. Take your tissue out of your purse now
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[TomInElPaso]

Could someone please turn off the grill? UnAbel is done.

Honest AbeL wrote:

Do you mean uncle, or maybe Chops, maybe you meant Irene. I am not sure what your pee sized brain thinks it knows
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[Pattysboi]

fr "Fitz", aka DAVID MOORE FROM PEKIN IL:

>...Again thanks for proving the article wrong and me correct.
See you at SCOTUS.<

Again, David? Quit the spam.

[Pagan and Proud]

No Surprise wrote:

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Support? lolol...somemore of your ignorancy coming to the surface for exposure. I didn't say I supported anything concerning slavery.
And from your own link..."Regardless of their country of origin, many early immigrants were indentured servants, people who sold their labor in exchange for passage to the New World and housing on their arrival. Initially, most laws passed concerned indentured servants, but around the middle of the seventeenth century, colonial laws began to reflect differences between indentured servants and slaves."
You don't even read your own information idiot. So read some it now..."..Regardless of their country of origin, many early immigrants were indentured servants, people who sold their labor in exchange for passage to the New World and housing on their arrival." Now if you can show me where Africans from Africa were selling themselves as indentured slaves you'll have made a point for your earlier position. Other wise understand, from England whites other wise known as Caucasians settled America. They came as masters and Indentured servants. Very few blacks came to America via England.
What the heck were you doing when US history was being taught in your schools? Not paying attention is my bet :)

Yep, you're another one that can't read. You directly missed the part of the Laws being passed in the Virginia Colony which removed ALL rights from so called "indentured Servants" turning them into slaves.
More selective reading from crackpots like yourself.

[No Surprise]

Pagan and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>Yep, you're another one that can't read. You directly missed the part of the Laws being passed in the Virginia Colony which removed ALL rights from so called "indentured Servants" turning them into slaves.
More selective reading from crackpots like yourself.

Doing some real back peddling now aren't you? Hmm? You're the almighty ignorant *ss that stated slavery was alive and well at the moment of America being colonized by the English with African slaves from Africa in tow.
And white people were turned into slaves? You mean like as Africans were turned into slaves without rights and freedoms being totally owned when laws for indentured servitude were abolished? Really? Please present to me your facts where white people were enslaving other white people and treating them as slaves as they treated Africans as slaves. I missed this piece of American history. See, if what you claim is true, that whites were making slaves of whites after the abolishment of indentured servitude laws, they would never of had to import Africans you imbecile! Whites were a dime a dozen! There would have been tens of thousands of whites to make slaves without rights and freedoms that they other whites could own and whip and have sex with!
You're a fricking clown at times...lololol.

[WasteWater]

Honest AbeL wrote:

You can never seem to stay on topic. You are so weak you always have to try the personal insults. My kids know right from wrong
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I don't see how. Their father doesn't know right from wrong so where did they learn it?

[Pagan and Proud]

No Surprise wrote:

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Doing some real back peddling now aren't you? Hmm? You're the almighty ignorant *ss that stated slavery was alive and well at the moment of America being colonized by the English with African slaves from Africa in tow.
And white people were turned into slaves? You mean like as Africans were turned into slaves without rights and freedoms being totally owned when laws for indentured servitude were abolished? Really? Please present to me your facts where white people were enslaving other white people and treating them as slaves as they treated Africans as slaves. I missed this piece of American history. See, if what you claim is true, that whites were making slaves of whites after the abolishment of indentured servitude laws, they would never of had to import Africans you imbecile! Whites were a dime a dozen! There would have been tens of thousands of whites to make slaves without rights and freedoms that they other whites could own and whip and have sex with!
You're a fricking clown at times...lololol.

And that's NOT what was said, but you're very aware of that. Your LIES are amusing, but predictable. The "clown" here is you. TRy writing for FOX news, they would support your BS.

[Pagan and Proud]

Rational Adult wrote:

<quoted text>i CAN HEAR THE GAYS SCREAMING,WE WANT SEX WITH CHILDREN, WAH, WAH, WAH

Disgusting lie but you know that.

Rational Adult wrote:

1. Letting gay couples get married redefines marriage. Gay male can marry a lesbian, so stop lying.

No actually it doesn't, but you know that too.

Rational Adult wrote:

2. Same-sex marriage hurts children. Opponents are right when they say that, other things being equal, children do best when raised by their married biological parents. True, all the gay adoption molestation cases prove this.

No law is keeping their married biological parents together. There are 10 times more cases of heterosexuals abusing their adopted children than gay couples doing so.

Rational Adult wrote:

3. A collision with religious liberty is unavoidable. Again, we already have gays burning churchings and watchgaygroups trying to deny pastors freedom of speech regarding politics.

No cases of gays burning churches have been proven and the Political Speech by Pastors is prohibited by Federal Law.

Rational Adult wrote:

4. The entire country must have the same policy. We can’t have different marriage standards in different states; that’s chaos. Right? The n=basic definition of marriage has always been the same in all 50 states.

We WILL have the same policy, same-sex marriage will be allowed across the US.

Rational Adult wrote:

5. The battle is almost over. Not even close to Possibly, but remember: 38 states have constitutional bans and no state has ever had a popular vote for same sex marriage.

Marriage rights should never be tried by Public vote, one of the founding Principles of Our form of Government.

Rational Adult wrote:

5a. Soon, all 50 states will vote to ban same sex civil unions and we will ship gays off to 40s Nazi Germany.

No, that will never happen, you freaking Nazi scum.

[Cheyenne277]

Rational Adult wrote:

<quoted text>i CAN HEAR THE GAYS SCREAMING,WE WANT SEX WITH CHILDREN, WAH, WAH, WAH
1. Letting gay couples get married redefines marriage. Gay male can marry a lesbian, so stop lying.
2. Same-sex marriage hurts children. Opponents are right when they say that, other things being equal, children do best when raised by their married biological parents. True, all the gay adoption molestation cases prove this.
3. A collision with religious liberty is unavoidable. Again, we already have gays burning churchings and watchgaygroups trying to deny pastors freedom of speech regarding politics.
4. The entire country must have the same policy. We can’t have different marriage standards in different states; that’s chaos. Right? The n=basic definition of marriage has always been the same in all 50 states.
5. The battle is almost over. Not even close to Possibly, but remember: 38 states have constitutional bans and no state has ever had a popular vote for same sex marriage.
5a. Soon, all 50 states will vote to ban same sex civil unions and we will ship gays off to 40s Nazi Germany.

Why in the world would a gay male want to marry a lesbian? And you call yourself a "rational adult"???

[Pagan and Proud]

Cheyenne277 wrote:

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Why in the world would a gay male want to marry a lesbian? And you call yourself a "rational adult"???

His argument is to avoid the IOWA decision where the ruling said(paraphrased) basically a Right that is undesirable is not a Right at all.

[Cheyenne277]

Pagan and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>His argument is to avoid the IOWA decision where the ruling said(paraphrased) basically a Right that is undesirable is not a Right at all.

And of course the US Supreme Court when confronted with the idea on interracial marriage that we all had the same equal right to marry someone from our same race, weren't swayed at all by such nonsense.

[Pagan and Proud]

Cheyenne277 wrote:

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And of course the US Supreme Court when confronted with the idea on interracial marriage that we all had the same equal right to marry someone from our same race, weren't swayed at all by such nonsense.

Precisely. But of course if Gay men WERE marrying Lesbians, for Military Benefits or something similar, you'd hear them go through the roof!

[No Surprise]

Pagan and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>And that's NOT what was said, but you're very aware of that. Your LIES are amusing, but predictable. The "clown" here is you. TRy writing for FOX news, they would support your BS.

Actually it is what you said and now your back peddling to cover your erroneous mistake of history.

You stated 4 pages ago..."Slavery existed and was around long before this country was founded and "indentured servitude" was just another limited form of slavery."
Indentured servitude came first and it was of white English people owning white English people, not black people. Native American Indians were used but in small numbers. So the type of slavery you referenced, where a person lost all freedom, all rights, was beaten and whipped and or killed if they ran away as it happened to black Africans, not to white or native Americans, pertained to black Africans.
Your problem is you forgot when indentured servitude of whites ended and when the slavery of black Africans began to replace them. And now your to pathetic to admit your mistake.

[WasteWater]

Rational Adult wrote:

<quoted text>Obviously, if your father knew right from wrong, he would have none that his sex with you was turning you gay.

wtf?

Are you trying for THE STUPID POST OF THE DAY AWARD?

This post is disqualified. Even stupid posts need to have an ounce of intelligence. This shows no discernible intelligence.

DISQUALIFIED!

BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME.

[Pagan and Proud]

No Surprise wrote:

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Actually it is what you said and now your back peddling to cover your erroneous mistake of history.

No, actually I'm not. Your Original Accusation was "that stated slavery was alive and well at the moment of America being colonized by the English with African slaves from Africa in tow." Which Is a Complete LIE.

No Surprise wrote:

You stated 4 pages ago..."Slavery existed and was around long before this country was founded and "indentured servitude" was just another limited form of slavery."

Which Is TRUE. If you Bothered reading posts you'd know that they were Treated as Property, could be sold or inherited.

No Surprise wrote:

Indentured servitude came first and it was of white English people owning white English people, not black people.

That's funny, that's not what your Religious Tolerance Source says, "Landowners in the American colonies originally met their need for forced labor by enslaving a limited number of Natives, and "hiring" many more European indentured servants. In exchange for their transportation across the Atlantic, the servants committed to work for the landowner for 4 to 7 years. A few slaves were imported from Africa as early as 1619. With the spread of tobacco farming in the 1670's, and the diminishing number of people willing to sign-on as indentured servants in the 1680's, increasing numbers of slaves were brought in from Africa. They replaced Native American slaves, who were found to be susceptible to diseases of European origin. "...small numbers of white people were also enslaved by kidnapping, or for crimes or debts." 2 The Africans "came from many racial stocks and many tribes, from the spirited Hausas, the gentle Mandingos, the creative Yorubas, from the Igbos, Efiks and Krus, from the proud Fantins, the warlike Ashantis, the shrewd Dahomeans, the Binis and Sengalese."

No Surprise wrote:

Native American Indians were used but in small numbers. So the type of slavery you referenced, where a person lost all freedom, all rights, was beaten and whipped and or killed if they ran away as it happened to black Africans, not to white or native Americans, pertained to black Africans.

That's not what your own source says.

No Surprise wrote:

Your problem is you forgot when indentured servitude of whites ended and when the slavery of black Africans began to replace them. And now your to pathetic to admit your mistake.

Your problem is you haven't bothered to READ and you still try to maintain that whitewashed gradeschool history was true instead of being a nice Propaganda piece told to the kids.

Maybe you should try READING the crap you post dimwit.

[Pattysboi]

fr Rational Adult:

>i CAN HEAR THE GAYS SCREAMING,WE WANT SEX WITH CHILDREN, WAH, WAH, WAH
1. Letting gay couples get married redefines marriage. Gay male can marry a lesbian, so stop lying....<

Actually, YOU are the LIAR. We do not want sex with children. You need help for your BIGOTRY. Get some.

[WasteWater]

Pattysboi wrote:

fr Rational Adult:
>i CAN HEAR THE GAYS SCREAMING,WE WANT SEX WITH CHILDREN, WAH, WAH, WAH
1. Letting gay couples get married redefines marriage. Gay male can marry a lesbian, so stop lying....<
Actually, YOU are the LIAR. We do not want sex with children. You need help for your BIGOTRY. Get some.

Can you imagine the mentality of someone who would post that crap?

I would have to conclude such an individual was mentally ill.