Gay And Muslim: The Challenge Of Homophobia In Islam

Dec 7, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Switched

Ludovic-Mohamed Zahed was 17 years old when he understood that he was in love with his Qur'an teacher.

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Dec 10, 2012
 
porkfoot muhammad pigbuh wrote:
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unfortunately the same cannot be said about islam. it is a evil doctrine against non-muslims. how come i heard stories of muslim arabs mistreating non-arab muslims badly in the middle east? muslims tell me that muhammad said all is equal but turns out it is all a lie. he thinks of black people as low and non-arabs as low. the only time he said arabs and non-arabs were equal was before the hijra. you can think whatever you want. you follow an uneducated privileged criminal minded man and i will follow the educated Khatri Sikh Gurujis who uplifted my people and practiced what they preached and educated us like them when the muslims didnt do their government duty.
you 'heard' stories. not strong enough to validate your claim. but you must know how to differentiate between culture and true islamic practice. honour killing practiced in pakistan for example, is against islam. they did it because of it's already embedded in their tradition.
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porkfoot muhammad pigbuh wrote:
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just like your muhammad, you are uneducated. any Khalsa Sikh can be a religious leader. Khalsa is not a caste but the destruction of it. doesnt matter what race, gender, caste, etc you are. the only thing that matters to be a true Khalsa Sikh is absolute discipline to the Sikh way of life. if islam is about racial equality, then why did muhammad have many black and jewish slaves? why did muhammad say mean things about black and jewish people?
im tired. good night. talk to you later.
slavery was gradually abolished by islam as at that point of time slavery was considered as an integral part of arab culture. although there were objections and resentment, slaves emancipation were encouraged as great deed of piety. during the caliphate term, slavery was eliminated in full force.

good night.
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Dec 10, 2012
 
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
All gays here , perfect .
we muslims will cut all gays :D:D:D:D
Turco not sure what u mean by you will cut all gays?

But the gay muslims in France wanted a mosque they got one?

Now what are you saying the French govement or muslims should do
accept it or what?

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Turco not sure what u mean by you will cut all gays?
But the gay muslims in France wanted a mosque they got one?
Now what are you saying the French govement or muslims should do
accept it or what?
bazz wrote:
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Turco not sure what u mean by you will cut all gays?
But the gay muslims in France wanted a mosque they got one?
Now what are you saying the French govement or muslims should do
accept it or what?
hahahahahahahahaha I'm joking :D:D:D lol

everyone free to do what you want . France is a christian country for now . But it will be a muslim country in future .

Islam doesnt accept homosexuality . So an homo cannot be a muslim .
They should make a church :) or they should spend this money for treatment yourself .
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B_Girl_Turco wrote:
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hahahahahahahahaha I'm joking :D:D:D lol
everyone free to do what you want . France is a christian country for now . But it will be a muslim country in future .
Islam doesnt accept homosexuality . So an homo cannot be a muslim .
They should make a church :) or they should spend this money for treatment yourself .
So everyone is free to do what they want?
so they can be gay ok but not muslim
But they cant leave the muslim faith right?

Clearly you have limited knowledge of humans that i undestand because of your faith
Turco you should realy look outside of religion and join the real world
Do you think they chose to be gay?
spend money fo treatment LOL

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So everyone is free to do what they want?
so they can be gay ok but not muslim
But they cant leave the muslim faith right?
Clearly you have limited knowledge of humans that i undestand because of your faith
Turco you should realy look outside of religion and join the real world
Do you think they chose to be gay?
spend money fo treatment LOL
No they can leave from to be muslim . They can be christian or other .

Yes they are free doing what they want .

But while doing it they must not broke to moral structure of society.

I'm showing you the real islam .

Of course , if they accept it that it is a disease they can be muslim . Everytime can come to musques , eveytime can be friend with us , there is no difference to homos for us . We want , dont transform it on a perversion .
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slavery was gradually abolished by islam as at that point of time slavery was considered as an integral part of arab culture. although there were objections and resentment, slaves emancipation were encouraged as great deed of piety. during the caliphate term, slavery was eliminated in full force.
good night.
that is a lie. the caliphate did not abolish slavery. slavery is well hidden in the middle east today. some humanitarian organization found around 200,000 black slaves in saudi arabia, but it did not go mainstream because america did not want to lose friendship with their oil buddy. makes me sad. slavery is well hidden in the muslim world. when the muslims came to India, they sent many slaves to the arab slave market. slavery was eliminated when the europeans came and took some parts of the middle east. the arabs were colonized, but not slaves. slavery is part of islam and arab culture. muhammad had many slaves and did not abolish all of them. it just shows that you live in denial and cannot except that muhammad was a regular man with lust for power. my Sikh Gurus could have had slaves from the low caste, but they didnt because they believed all were equal and slavery is against God.
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Trisha wrote:
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This is an English speaking forum. It would be appreciated if you wrote on Topix in English.
Just a tip:
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porkfoot muhammad pigbuh wrote:
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you know that before islam and christianity, LGBT was common in many societies. soldiers would have sex with each other because they didnt get laid for months and months. women used to sleep together when their husbands were out at war. they dont teach this in school because the world has become christian and islam oriented. that is the real truth. there is a lot we dont know, but my professors told me our ancient societies were very liberal when it came to sex before christianity. of course our ancient societies were conservative in other way such as crimes like stealing, murdering, raping, etc. instant death for those caught. what im trying to say is that you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to our future generation. im assuming you are muslim because you are in malaysia, but your country sucks because it kills apostates of islam. your country is ruining the natural cycle of human life and nation destiny. islam is evil and you muslims keep the evil going. the west is sucking more and more as the muslim population increases like cockroaches. they are asking for sharia law which will be deadly to the non-muslim future generation.
i prefer LGBT people in my society than barbaric backward muslims asking for unfair sharia law. what a backward cult. shouldnt be called a religion.
That's dead true. The Ancient Greeks are well known to have been homosexual & lesbian, which are both Greek words.

It was reasonably accepted in Ancient Rome to lift your toga. In fact, a couple of the Caesars even had gay marriages.
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Trisha wrote:
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YOU and your fellow intolerant cavemen are the 'disease'. You all need to get yourselves to a mental institution and find a cure for your evilness.
That kind of bigotry is sickening!

About 2500 years ago, Plato said this: "Homosexuality is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them."

“Alea iacta est!”

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aiesha s wrote:
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Just a tip:
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I tried it, it doesn't make much sense to me.
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porkfoot muhammad pigbuh wrote:
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not good enough for me. ive met many uneducated people and i dont believe they would be good to guide the world. islam was muhammad's teaching. muhammad justified jizya tax on non-muslims. that is against God, Allah, Yahweh, Waheguru, Jehovah, or whatever you want to call the Creator. muhammad did not give equal treatment to the non-muslims and wiped their tribes out because they did not accept him as prophet. Jesus didnt kill others when they said he was false. islam does not stress on education or else the muslim would would be ahead of the Christian world, Buddhist world, and India. muslims are one of the most illiterate religious community in the world. maybe gabriel did say read, but there are many uneducated muslims in India, pakistan, afghanistan, bangladesh.
in an islamic state, muslims have to pay a type of tax called zakaah. jizya is imposed in lieu of this zakaah for non muslims. the rights of non muslim citizens will be the same as the muslims, jizya is paid to ensure their rights are protected from internal/external enemies.

in malaysia and many other countries with muslims majority such as indonesia, brunei, etc, there's no jizya imposed on non muslims, but citizens are required to pay income taxes. for muslim, they have to pay zakaah out of religious obligation.

at least, muslims have at one time of its glory conquered the world and introduced civilisation into the then medievil europe. the impact of islamic civilisation can be seen until today, in many areas be it science, literature, philosophy, etc.

what is sikhism contribution to mankind btw?
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that is a lie. the caliphate did not abolish slavery. slavery is well hidden in the middle east today. some humanitarian organization found around 200,000 black slaves in saudi arabia, but it did not go mainstream because america did not want to lose friendship with their oil buddy. makes me sad. slavery is well hidden in the muslim world. when the muslims came to India, they sent many slaves to the arab slave market. slavery was eliminated when the europeans came and took some parts of the middle east. the arabs were colonized, but not slaves. slavery is part of islam and arab culture. muhammad had many slaves and did not abolish all of them. it just shows that you live in denial and cannot except that muhammad was a regular man with lust for power. my Sikh Gurus could have had slaves from the low caste, but they didnt because they believed all were equal and slavery is against God.
can you differentiate between culture and religious practice? i was wondering if you really are more educated than anyone here as you claimed to be.

slavery is still practiced in many parts of the world. such as in india, to the lowest caste. slavery was only abolished by the americans in 1865.

when in many societies, islamic or not, slavery is no longer existed, some parts of the world still practice discrimination called caste.

btw, you have not answered any of my questions about the khatris.
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Homesexual is the lower class of human being, all the deasess are from homosexual contaminate the women. They should just burn alive. YOU a$$ F@CKER!!!
Better to be a poofter, than a complete idiot like U.
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And we wonder why Rome fell.
The main reason was Christianity.

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No they can leave from to be muslim . They can be christian or other .
Yes they are free doing what they want .
But while doing it they must not broke to moral structure of society.
I'm showing you the real islam .
Of course , if they accept it that it is a disease they can be muslim . Everytime can come to musques , eveytime can be friend with us , there is no difference to homos for us . We want , dont transform it on a perversion .
See, you prove the intolerance and the danger of your cult.

'Yes they are free do to what they want'

'BUT'.........

No they are NOT free at all!!

Islam teaches that if they 'spread mischief' they are guilty of death.

As usual Muslims like you contradict themselves in the same paragraph. That is because Islam is a false religion....it is an evil ideology that must be eradicated for the good of mankind.

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The Intolerance of Muslims is worse than being an animal.
You being that animal eh.
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You being that animal eh.
You being that vegetable, eh Tommy?

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Crush Em wrote:
Homosexuals should be considered as "an act of terrorism", a social terrorism...
A conventional terrorist killed the present innocent generations, homo-terrorist killed the innocent future generations....simple as that! homo-terrorist is far more dangerous than the conventional terrorist,they killed future generations almost everyday 24/7 exceeding the conventional terrorist. 911 is nothing compared to these epidemic homo terrorist atrocity!!
youre one crazy person.
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<quoted text> youre one crazy person.
That one is definitely meshuggah.

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