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Gay rights activists are planning to gather at the Statehouse in support of a bill that would ban therapy on minors that seeks to change their sexual orientation.

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HumanSpirit

United States

#56 Aug 5, 2013
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

APA lies to the American Public and puts the society in danger

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...

No test for chemical imbalance. No medical model and no evident based medicine in psychiatry.

The fraud has been going on for more then 30 years since H W Bush was CEO, Eli Lilly and before in his VP under the Reagan Presidency when the essential Amino Acid "Tryptophan" was limited in the food chain and Prozac entered the market place. Lots of people compromised under the fraud of mental health services with made to order mental illnesses with mind altering drugs as the capitalist solution. The Republican ALEC solution.

There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."

"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."

"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."

http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...

There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

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HumanSpirit

United States

#57 Aug 5, 2013
A Historic Precedent

In the momentous article "Medical Science Under Dictator-ship," Dr. Leo Alexander, the chief U.S. medical consultant at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, examined "the process by which the German medical profession became a willing and unquestioning collaborator with the Nazis." He noted the early changes in medical attitudes that predisposed German physicians to first collect data on their patients to conduct what today we call "cost-effective analysis," and then to use the latter information as a vehicle to commit medical genocide under the auspices of the totalitarianism of National Socialism.

Dr. Alexander warns us that "from small beginnings" the values of an entire society may be subverted, leading to the horrors of a police state.

The "small beginnings" in Nazi Germany that Dr. Alexander referred to first led the physicians to collect data from their patients and then violate their patients' privacy and medical record confidentiality by supplying the information to the state.(6)

Organizations with humanitarian-sounding names were set up in Nazi Germany to institute "health" programs, under deceptive, euphemistic terms.
For example, questionnaires collected by a "Realm's Work Committee of Institutions for Cure and Care" gathered and reported information on patients who had been ill five years or more and who were unable to work.

"On the basis of name, race, marital status, nationality, next of kin, whether regularly visited and by whom, who bore financial responsibility, and so forth," decisions were ultimately made for the patient euthanasia program heralded by the Nazi government for the good of the state and the "health of the nation."
The first steps taken toward barbarism were the result of the physicians' willingness to participate in patient data collection and the violation of medical privacy. "Corrosion," as Dr. Alexander wrote, "begins in microscopic proportions."

German physicians were, more than any other profession, heavily represented in the Nazi Party, which they joined in droves.

German psychiatrists were no exception, and they also enthusiastically supported Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 that disarmed the civilian population and left a monopoly of force in the hands of the German military and the SS.

The rest, as we say, is history.

AMA Becomes Political

As to the commitment of the AMA to weakening medical privacy and individual-based ethics in favor of population-based ethics and achieve a partnership with government, there is no longer any doubt.(7,8)

In the case of the American Psychiatric Association, one only has to peruse its position statement on homicide prevention and gun control promulgated by its leadership as early as 1993: "In view of the need to reinforce individual and group sanctions against the use of violence as a social instrument, behavioral mode, or adaptorional [sic] pattern, as psychiatrists have done with drug abuse, suicidal actions, and antisocial behavior, the American Psychiatric Association recommends that strong controls be placed on the availability of all types of firearms to private citizens."(9)

Why would the AMA and organized medicine become involved in this politically expedient but potentially explosive issue of gun control and condone the systematic violation of the privacy of vulnerable patients?


http://www.haciendapub.com/edcor8.html
HumanSpirit

United States

#58 Aug 5, 2013
Personality changes

Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.

SSRI stories

Public

http://ssristories.com/index.php

Soldiers

http://ssristories.com/index.php...
HumanSpirit

United States

#59 Aug 5, 2013
Here is the agenda of the Mental Health in the take over of the Judiciary Branch of government (by state) on the problem the industry caused in the USA.(Drug America) This is a similar takeover to what happen in the Public School System.

Mental Health Court by State links

http://www.ncsc.org/topics/problem-solving-co...
HumanSpirit

United States

#60 Aug 5, 2013
Establishing State Mental Health Courts

http://www.ncsc.org/topics/problem-solving-co...

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There is no science and there has never been a cure for mental illness.

There is no medical model. No evidence based medicine and the Mental Health / Pharmaceutical industry lied about Chemical imbalance to drug the population. There is no imaging (MRI) to declare a defective brain from a normal brain.

The Mental Health Industry is political and based on hearsay. The court shouldn't except hearsay.

Psychiatry is fake science. The Thud Experiment proof.

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&feature=related>

Psychiatry "No Science"

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Psychiatry: An Industry of Death, Introduction

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
HumanSpirit

United States

#61 Aug 5, 2013
There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other (made to order)diagnoses by any neurological study.

Without a test for chemical imbalance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry.

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see how the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.
HumanSpirit

United States

#62 Aug 5, 2013
Without a test for chemical balance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry. Psychiatry wouldn't know a good chemical balance from a bad chemical balance of the brain. It was a fraud designed to drug and addict the American (world) population and to create a mentally compromised person for political and financial reasons. It's all about power and control over the society. There is no science

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of the behavior and hearsay at the discretion of a questionable licensed therapist (psychiatrist) who makes money from the prescription drugs and office visits.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, illness, electrolyte level, gender differences, body temperature, I don't see where the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on a chemical imbalance.

There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other made to order diagnoses by any neurological study. There is no medical model. There is No evidence based medicine. There is No Imaging device designed to tell a good brain from a defective brain.

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay concerning the emotions and thought.

APA lies to the American Public and puts the society in danger

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...
HumanSpirit

United States

#63 Aug 5, 2013
cpeter1313

There is no test for chemical imbalance. Can't be because each person is different and the biological of the brain are different.

We know that the alteration of chemicals can produce personality changes.
HumanSpirit

United States

#64 Aug 5, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
"Sexual Orientation Therapy" is snake oil.
Yes
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#65 Aug 6, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"
APA lies to the American Public and puts the society in danger
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...
No test for chemical imbalance. No medical model and no evident based medicine in psychiatry.
The fraud has been going on for more then 30 years since H W Bush was CEO, Eli Lilly and before in his VP under the Reagan Presidency when the essential Amino Acid "Tryptophan" was limited in the food chain and Prozac entered the market place. Lots of people compromised under the fraud of mental health services with made to order mental illnesses with mind altering drugs as the capitalist solution. The Republican ALEC solution.
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"
"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."
"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."
"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."
http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"
Pasted from < http://www.academyanalyticarts.org/fores.htm&... ;
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...yawn...

I trust the APA way more than your quotes.
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#66 Aug 6, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
We know that the alteration of chemicals can produce personality changes.
Really? Then perhaps YOU should try it.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#67 Aug 6, 2013
Rose Feratu wrote:
<quoted text>
...yawn...
I trust the APA way more than your quotes.
The A.P.A. is more interested in political correctness than in being scientific.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#68 Aug 6, 2013
The APA said there was no diagnostic test, not that imbalances don't exist. Learn to fu**ing read, idiot.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
The APA admitted there was no chemical imbalance and that they lied to drug the population. See Below.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#69 Aug 6, 2013
Maybe because THEY are the ones who have to patch up the victims of shootings, who have to tell loved ones a victim didn't survive, who have to treat the after-effects to the survivors?

Or maybe because they are, at base, a humanitarian group whose goal is to alleviate human suffering?
HumanSpirit wrote:
A Historic Precedent
crap crap crap...
Why would the AMA and organized medicine become involved in this politically expedient but potentially explosive issue of gun control and condone the systematic violation of the privacy of vulnerable patients?
http://www.haciendapub.com/edcor8.html

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#70 Aug 6, 2013
You know nothing.

Many disorders are traced to tumors, trauma, disease, injury, circulatory problems, etc--through standard diagnostic testing. Some disorders are shown to be consistently reactive to standard courses of medication--just like diabetes, hemophilia, and a host of other disorders you can't directly test for. Such diseases are only diagnosed indirectly, by blood work, etc.

What, btw, is the frigging point of all this? Your deep-seated need to demonstrate your ignorance? How do you account for the millions of patients who in fact respond well to therapy and treatment?
HumanSpirit wrote:
There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other (made to order)diagnoses by any neurological study.
Without a test for chemical imbalance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry.
The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay.
If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see how the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#71 Aug 6, 2013
It's EXACTLY because everyone's biochemical system is different. Give three people the same drug; one will be helped, one will show no effect, and one may die. I'm not even talking about psychotropics--do you know how many people die from using aspirin each year?

No matter how you dance around it, you keep describing chemical imbalances, which you insist don't exist.
HumanSpirit wrote:
cpeter1313
There is no test for chemical imbalance. Can't be because each person is different and the biological of the brain are different.
We know that the alteration of chemicals can produce personality changes.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#72 Aug 6, 2013
Deny it all you want, but this is exactly how $cientology attacks psychiatry. You are either a member or a dupe of that cult. The giveaway is "there is no cure for mental illness"--even though neither psychologists nor psychiatrists have ever claimed there was. Their goal is to trweat the problem when possible or train the patient to deal with the problems that are not treatable.
HumanSpirit wrote:
Establishing State Mental Health Courts
http://www.ncsc.org/topics/problem-solving-co...
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There is no science and there has never been a cure for mental illness.
There is no medical model. No evidence based medicine and the Mental Health / Pharmaceutical industry lied about Chemical imbalance to drug the population. There is no imaging (MRI) to declare a defective brain from a normal brain.
The Mental Health Industry is political and based on hearsay. The court shouldn't except hearsay.
Psychiatry is fake science. The Thud Experiment proof.
Pasted from <http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=hqaptRYjhq4XX&feature =related>
Psychiatry "No Science"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Psychiatry: An Industry of Death, Introduction
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
HumanSpirit

United States

#73 Aug 6, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Deny it all you want, but this is exactly how $cientology attacks psychiatry. You are either a member or a dupe of that cult. The giveaway is "there is no cure for mental illness"--even though neither psychologists nor psychiatrists have ever claimed there was. Their goal is to trweat the problem when possible or train the patient to deal with the problems that are not treatable.
<quoted text>
Not into scientology. I thought I mentioned that to you. Usually the Mental Health use this as their number one excuse. The person is into Scientology. Scientology must be commended for the court cases and reality they bring to the American people on the planned Coup D'état.

The facts are: There is no science and no one has been cured in psychiatry. The industry recognizes its own fault in the none excepting the DSM-5 and belittling of the APA. The drugging of America and other countries with political intent has been against the health and Welfare of the nation.
HumanSpirit

United States

#74 Aug 6, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's EXACTLY because everyone's biochemical system is different. Give three people the same drug; one will be helped, one will show no effect, and one may die. I'm not even talking about psychotropics--do you know how many people die from using aspirin each year?
No matter how you dance around it, you keep describing chemical imbalances, which you insist don't exist.
<quoted text>
The brain has a chemical balance unique to each person..

The Mental Health Industry has no test to measure or put a standard on any chemical balance of the brain to any person. Perhaps you missed the words "No Test" and the articles:

sychiatric "Chemical Imbalance Fraud" confirmed by Three New England
States

http://www.nowpublic.com/psychiatric_chemical...

BOSTON – Massachusetts, Maine and Rhode Island have released statements undercutting the fraudulent "chemical imbalance of the brain" marketing that is the foundation of billions of psycho-pharmaceutical dollars and the entire mental health diagnosis process.
HumanSpirit

United States

#75 Aug 6, 2013
here Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

Snip:

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."

"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."

"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."

http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...

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