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Gay rights activists are planning to gather at the Statehouse in support of a bill that would ban therapy on minors that seeks to change their sexual orientation.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#205 Aug 17, 2013
So depressives who take anti-depressants become less neurotic and more out-going? How is that a problem? Do you even know what depression entails?
HumanSpirit wrote:
Antidepressants linked to major personality changes
A study finds steep drops in neuroticism and increases in extroversion among patients taking Paxil. Such traits had been believed to shift very little over a lifetime.
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The increase in sexual behavioral changes should noted from the days of the APA change on homosexual behavior as a disease to the Military increase behavior change after mind drugs were introduced.
HumanSpirit

Lake Butler, FL

#206 Aug 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
So depressives who take anti-depressants become less neurotic and more out-going? How is that a problem? Do you even know what depression entails?
<quoted text>
You should read the whole article:

Antidepressant medications taken by roughly 7% of American adults cause profound personality changes in many patients with depression, far beyond simply lifting the veil of sadness, a study has found.

Researchers saw strong drops in neuroticism and increases in extroversion in patients taking antidepressants, two of five traits thought to define personality and shape a person's day-to-day thoughts and behavior. The findings are striking, researchers said, because psychologists have long thought that such fundamental traits are moorings of an adult's personality that shift very little over a lifetime.

The medications would seem to relieve depression by chemically altering brain processes that spawn negative thoughts rather than just alleviating symptoms associated with a depressed state, said Northwestern University psychologist Tony Z. Tang, the lead author of the study.

The findings, published in the journal Archives of General Psychiatry and funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, could have significant implications for depression treatment, researchers not connected with the study said.

HERE is some negative thoughts from mind drugs:

Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.

SSRI stories

http://ssristories.com/index.php

http://ssristories.com/index.php...

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SSRI Stories

Antidepressant Nightmares

http://ssristories.com/index.html

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#208 Aug 18, 2013
Depression is far more than a "veil of sadness", and in fact can change the person's core traits on its own. What is your prescription for those who suffer from depression?
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
You should read the whole article:
Antidepressant medications taken by roughly 7% of American adults cause profound personality changes in many patients with depression, far beyond simply lifting the veil of sadness, a study has found.
Researchers saw strong drops in neuroticism and increases in extroversion in patients taking antidepressants, two of five traits thought to define personality and shape a person's day-to-day thoughts and behavior. The findings are striking, researchers said, because psychologists have long thought that such fundamental traits are moorings of an adult's personality that shift very little over a lifetime.
The medications would seem to relieve depression by chemically altering brain processes that spawn negative thoughts rather than just alleviating symptoms associated with a depressed state, said Northwestern University psychologist Tony Z. Tang, the lead author of the study.
The findings, published in the journal Archives of General Psychiatry and funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, could have significant implications for depression treatment, researchers not connected with the study said.
HERE is some negative thoughts from mind drugs:
Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.
SSRI stories
http://ssristories.com/index.php
http://ssristories.com/index.php...
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SSRI Stories
Antidepressant Nightmares
http://ssristories.com/index.html
HumanSpirit

United States

#209 Aug 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Depression is far more than a "veil of sadness", and in fact can change the person's core traits on its own. What is your prescription for those who suffer from depression?
<quoted text>
Every couple of years there is a new crisis from the mental health. Violence / ADD/ADHD/ PTSD / Bi Polar disorder / Bullies. It seems to me the industry has no credibility. All horse manure and created problems in the society.

What is fact:

Environmental pollution by human discharge or industrial waste from manufacturing of drugs, hospitals and doctors offices is a plus for the Pharmaceutical and mental Health Industry when millions of persons in anyone given areas depend on water for drinking and bathing and with knowledge that the water becomes contaminated with anti-depressants known to create depression along with other psychotropic drugs including anti psychotic and heart medication like Statin drugs that cause memory loss and mussel atrophy is common. The Thames river (Great Britain) by recent environmental testing pointed to the drugs mind drugs primarily Prozac and heart medication as the leading contaminate

ALBERT LEA, MN--A new study shows that potentially harmful chemicals and pharmaceuticals are widespread in Minnesota streams.
The state's pollution control agency says this can be deadly and mutating to many fish and types of wildlife.
The substances scientists most often found included antibiotics, antidepressants, and drugs for ADHD.
The environmental community says this is a big wake-up call to something that's being going on for many years.
Randy Tuchtenhagen with Freeborn County Environmental Services says, "Now we're finding out that things that get flushed down the toilet or poured down the sink are ending up in our waste treatment plants. Waste treatment plants are designed to treat human waste, they aren't designed to treat pharmaceuticals and chemicals."
Tuchtenhagen also notes that if a person takes a pill that their body doesn't fully process, that's something that ends up in sewage treatment plants too and eventually into our streams.

Pasted from < http://www.kimt.com/content/localnews/story/C...
HumanSpirit

United States

#210 Aug 18, 2013
Pharmaceuticals, Hormones, and Other Organic Wastewater Contaminants in U.S. Streams
USGS Fact Sheet FS-027-02 (PDF [372k])[Acrobat Reader]
June 2002

A recent study by the Toxic Substances Hydrology Program of the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) shows that a broad range of chemicals found in residential, industrial, and agricultural wastewaters commonly occurs in mixtures at low concentrations downstream from areas of intense urbanization and animal production. The chemicals include human and veterinary drugs (including antibiotics), natural and synthetic hormones, detergent metabolites, plasticizers, insecticides, and fire retardants. One or more of these chemicals were found in 80 percent of the streams sampled. Half of the streams contained 7 or more of these chemicals, and about one-third of the streams contained 10 or more of these chemicals. This study is the first national-scale examination of these organic wastewater contaminants in streams and supports the USGS mission to assess the quantity and quality of the Nation's water resources. A more complete analysis of these and other emerging water-quality issues is ongoing.

Pasted from < http://toxics.usgs.gov/pubs/FS-027-02/> ;
HumanSpirit

United States

#211 Aug 18, 2013
Drugs on tap

Pasted from < http://www.theecologist.org/trial_investigati...

Snip:

and Prozac for all

Back in 2004, the Environment Agency first cautioned that Prozac was detectable in British drinking water, though the levels were thought to be at ‘very low concentrations'. Subsequently, the Agency asked manufacturers in May 2005 to monitor the water levels of Viagra and Prozac, worried that they could be harmful.
Fluoxetine hydrochloride was first introduced in 1988 by Eli Lilly and Company, and marketed under the trade name Prozac. Since the patent expired in 2000, the compound has been marketed in the UK by a number of other companies. In 2004, UK doctors issued more than five million prescriptions for fluoxetine - equating to around 4.1 tonnes of the compound. Research suggests that once fluoxetine is in the environment it is not easily broken down.

In the US, meanwhile, a five-month investigation by the Associated Press in 2008 found that the drinking water in many major cities contains a variety of prescription medicines in low concentrations. The drugs include sex hormones, antibiotics, mood stabilisers and anticonvulsants.

The British water industry's scientific collaborative body, UK Water Industry Research, is currently investigating how it can cost-effectively remove oestrogens from sewage, via two pilot projects run by Thames Water and Severn Trent Water. It says it believes there is an ‘acceptably safe' level of oestrogen in river water that will not harm wildlife.
The pharmaceutical industry says it supports monitoring of environmental residue levels and likewise believes that they are safely well below any level that could harm human health. But how would it know? Ecotoxicity data is available for less than one per cent of human pharmaceuticals, according to estimates published in the journal Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology in April 2004. Nor do we know what the drug compounds do when they break down in the environment, during water treatment and inside our bodies.

Some scientists fear that they may become more toxic. We simply do not know what happens when lots of these chemicals combine; they may, for example, make new compounds whose toxicity is powerful but unknown. There are also significant concerns about the effects on humans of long-term exposure to multiple drug contaminants at low levels. Dr Johnson says:‘There is a need for a lot more research. However it is not currently fashionable. The public are concerned, but the research-funding agencies much less so. We don't have enough information to rule out whether it is an issue. The concentrations of chemotherapy drugs involved are the same as the levels of oestrogens that we know can cause problems in fish.'

In wildlife, the most documented problem is the feminisation of male fish living downstream of wastewater treatment plants. A February 2008 study in Chemical & Engineering News by Karen Kidd, a biology professor at the Canadian Rivers Institute, says:‘It doesn't take a lot of oestrogen to feminise male fish. If you can measure the oestrogen in the water, then that's enough to cause an effect, and we can measure it at very low parts per trillion'.

Furthermore, fish exposed to an antidepressant drug, venlafaxine (marketed as Effexor) startle less quickly and become easy prey, according to a study reported by Meghan McGee of Minnesota's St Cloud State University to the 2008 North America annual meeting of the Society of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry. Similar research shows that antidepressants can impair a fish's ability to eat, to avoid being eaten - and perhaps to attract a mate.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#212 Aug 18, 2013
Blah blah fu**ing blah--you have no answers. You have nothing to offer but stupidity and cowardice.

Answer the question, if you can--what are depressives supposed to do?
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
Every couple of years there is a new crisis from the mental health. Violence / ADD/ADHD/ PTSD / Bi Polar disorder / Bullies. It seems to me the industry has no credibility. All horse manure and created problems in the society.
What is fact:
Environmental pollution by human discharge or industrial waste from manufacturing of drugs, hospitals and doctors offices is a plus for the Pharmaceutical and mental Health Industry when millions of persons in anyone given areas depend on water for drinking and bathing and with knowledge that the water becomes contaminated with anti-depressants known to create depression along with other psychotropic drugs including anti psychotic and heart medication like Statin drugs that cause memory loss and mussel atrophy is common. The Thames river (Great Britain) by recent environmental testing pointed to the drugs mind drugs primarily Prozac and heart medication as the leading contaminate
ALBERT LEA, MN--A new study shows that potentially harmful chemicals and pharmaceuticals are widespread in Minnesota streams.
The state's pollution control agency says this can be deadly and mutating to many fish and types of wildlife.
The substances scientists most often found included antibiotics, antidepressants, and drugs for ADHD.
The environmental community says this is a big wake-up call to something that's being going on for many years.
Randy Tuchtenhagen with Freeborn County Environmental Services says, "Now we're finding out that things that get flushed down the toilet or poured down the sink are ending up in our waste treatment plants. Waste treatment plants are designed to treat human waste, they aren't designed to treat pharmaceuticals and chemicals."
Tuchtenhagen also notes that if a person takes a pill that their body doesn't fully process, that's something that ends up in sewage treatment plants too and eventually into our streams.
Pasted from < http://www.kimt.com/content/localnews/story/C...
HumanSpirit

United States

#213 Aug 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Blah blah fu**ing blah--you have no answers. You have nothing to offer but stupidity and cowardice.
Answer the question, if you can--what are depressives supposed to do?
<quoted text>
You should have more respect for opinion.

To be more specific on the reduction of Depression by chemical change would be to go after and eliminate the source. The corporation that manufacture's the substance (Pharmaceutical) and the distributor (Mental Health Industry) or the local Family doctor would be a person of great interest. With that in mind, the political bite would be taken out of the New World Order and the reasons for creating the catalysts of financial and family problems worldwide.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#214 Aug 19, 2013
I have no respect for NWO, illuminati nonsense.

Some depression is reactive; it comes from circumstances in the patient's life. This is usually treated without drugs if the patient is amenable to therapy. If not, a short course of antidepressants may be dispense to help regain equilibrium.

Clinical depression, on the other hand, isn't caused by anything in the patient's life; it's due to their biochemistry and requires an anti-depressive. You may not like it, but it's the reality.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
You should have more respect for opinion.
To be more specific on the reduction of Depression by chemical change would be to go after and eliminate the source. The corporation that manufacture's the substance (Pharmaceutical) and the distributor (Mental Health Industry) or the local Family doctor would be a person of great interest. With that in mind, the political bite would be taken out of the New World Order and the reasons for creating the catalysts of financial and family problems worldwide.
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#215 Aug 19, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
Pharmaceuticals, Hormones, and Other Organic Wastewater Contaminants in U.S. Streams
USGS Fact Sheet FS-027-02 (PDF [372k])[Acrobat Reader]
June 2002
A recent study by the Toxic Substances Hydrology Program of the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) shows that a broad range of chemicals found in residential, industrial, and agricultural wastewaters commonly occurs in mixtures at low concentrations downstream from areas of intense urbanization and animal production. The chemicals include human and veterinary drugs (including antibiotics), natural and synthetic hormones, detergent metabolites, plasticizers, insecticides, and fire retardants. One or more of these chemicals were found in 80 percent of the streams sampled. Half of the streams contained 7 or more of these chemicals, and about one-third of the streams contained 10 or more of these chemicals. This study is the first national-scale examination of these organic wastewater contaminants in streams and supports the USGS mission to assess the quantity and quality of the Nation's water resources. A more complete analysis of these and other emerging water-quality issues is ongoing.
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Guess you should stick with whiskey.
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#216 Aug 19, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
You should have more respect for opinion.
To be more specific on the reduction of Depression by chemical change would be to go after and eliminate the source. The corporation that manufacture's the substance (Pharmaceutical) and the distributor (Mental Health Industry) or the local Family doctor would be a person of great interest. With that in mind, the political bite would be taken out of the New World Order and the reasons for creating the catalysts of financial and family problems worldwide.
New World Order?

ahhahahahaha
ahahahahhahaha
ahahahahahahah

Apply fresh tinfoil to your hat.
HumanSpirit

United States

#217 Aug 19, 2013
Rose Feratu wrote:
<quoted text>
New World Order?
ahhahahahaha
ahahahahhahaha
ahahahahahahah
Apply fresh tinfoil to your hat.
Republican ALEC George Bush Sr'

The New World Order

HumanSpirit

United States

#218 Aug 19, 2013
Bush Sr was on the Board of Directors for Eli Lilly and his son Bush jr (former president) and Ken Lay also worked for Eli Lilly and were ALEC members.

THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH
 
THE BUSH FAMILY OLIGARCHY
Funding the Hitler Project

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HumanSpirit

United States

#219 Aug 19, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I have no respect for NWO, illuminati nonsense.
Some depression is reactive; it comes from circumstances in the patient's life. This is usually treated without drugs if the patient is amenable to therapy. If not, a short course of antidepressants may be dispense to help regain equilibrium.
Clinical depression, on the other hand, isn't caused by anything in the patient's life; it's due to their biochemistry and requires an anti-depressive. You may not like it, but it's the reality.
<quoted text>
We know that that changes to the chemistry of the brain have the common cause and effect of chemistry but there is no test for a chemical imbalance. The APA lied about having a test for chemical imbalance of the brain and was forced to admit to mind drugging for profit. The Mental Health Industry wouldn't know a good chemical balance of the brain from an abnormal chemical imbalance of the brain and there is no test. Never has been one.

There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

Pasted from < http://www.academyanalyticarts.org/fores.htm&... ;
HumanSpirit

United States

#220 Aug 19, 2013
The Myth of Biological Depression

by Lawrence Stevens, J.D.

Pasted from < http://www.antipsychiatry.org/depressi.htm> ;

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. There is no tests for chemical imbalance:

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical.

http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...
HumanSpirit

United States

#221 Aug 19, 2013
What science is there to the Mental Health Industry?

The mental health and the pharmaceutical industry has been creating mentally compromised people and bilking the Government.

1. There no evidence that depression can be seen by any imaging device.

Can Brain Scans See Depression?

Snip from the article:

After almost 30 years, researchers have not developed any standardized tool for diagnosing or treating psychiatric disorders based on imaging studies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/18/health/psyc...
__________

2. There is no specific genes associated with depression:

Human geneticists have reached a private crisis of conscience, and it will become public knowledge in 2010. The crisis has depressing health implications and alarming political ones.

The Economist

Human geneticists have reached a private crisis of conscience, and it will become public knowledge in 2010. The crisis has depressing health implications and alarming political ones. In a nutshell: the new genetics will reveal much less than hoped about how to cure disease, and much more than feared about human evolution and inequality, including genetic differences between classes, ethnicities and races.

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid...

About five years ago, genetics researchers became excited about new methods for “genome-wide association studies”(GWAS). We already knew from twin, family and adoption studies that all human traits are heritable: genetic differences explain much of the variation between individuals. We knew the genes were there; we just had to find them. Companies such as Illumina and Affymetrix produced DNA chips that allowed researchers to test up to 1m genetic variants for their statistical association with specific traits. America’s National Institutes of Health and Britain’s Wellcome Trust gave huge research grants for gene-hunting. Thousands of researchers jumped on the GWAS bandwagon. Lab groups formed and international research consortia congealed. The quantity of published GWAS research has soared.
In 2010, GWAS fever will reach its peak.
Dozens of papers will report specific genes associated with almost every imaginable trait—intelligence, personality, religiosity, sexuality, longevity, economic risk-taking, consumer preferences, leisure interests and political attitudes. The
data are already collected, with DNA samples from large populations already measured for these traits. It’s just a matter of doing the statistics and writing up the papers for Nature Genetics. The gold rush is on throughout the leading behaviour-genetics centres in London, Amsterdam, Boston, Boulder and Brisbane.
GWAS researchers will, in public, continue trumpeting their successes to science journalists and Science magazine. They will reassure Big Pharma and the grant agencies that GWAS will identify the genes that explain most of the variation in heart disease, cancer, obesity, depression, schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s and ageing itself. Those genes will illuminate the biochemical pathways underlying disease, which will yield new genetic tests and blockbuster drugs. Keep holding your breath for a golden age of health, happiness and longevity.

snip:

They simply have not been delivering the goods.

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid...
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HumanSpirit

United States

#222 Aug 19, 2013
APA lies to the American Public and puts the society in danger

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...

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The Mental health Industry has no medical model, no evidence based medicine and no imaging device to declare that someone has an abnormality of the brain. The industry, American Psychiatric Association (APA), lied about chemical imbalance to drug millions of people and so they have no credibility. There was no test. The industry is based on hearsay, voodoo, crystal ball gazing and Tarot card reading.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#223 Aug 19, 2013
There's no test for the new world order, but here you are, idiot.

BTW--there's no DIRECT test for chemical imbalance; it can still be diagnosed by indirect testing.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
We know that that changes to the chemistry of the brain have the common cause and effect of chemistry but there is no test for a chemical imbalance. The APA lied about having a test for chemical imbalance of the brain and was forced to admit to mind drugging for profit. The Mental Health Industry wouldn't know a good chemical balance of the brain from an abnormal chemical imbalance of the brain and there is no test. Never has been one.
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"
Pasted from < http://www.academyanalyticarts.org/fores.htm&... ;

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#224 Aug 19, 2013
He's a fu**ing lawyer, idiot. He has no authority or education that would qualify him to make these statements.
HumanSpirit wrote:
The Myth of Biological Depression
by Lawrence Stevens, J.D.
Pasted from < http://www.antipsychiatry.org/depressi.htm> ;
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. There is no tests for chemical imbalance:
"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical.
http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...
HumanSpirit

United States

#225 Aug 20, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
He's a fu**ing lawyer, idiot. He has no authority or education that would qualify him to make these statements.
<quoted text>
No science to the mental health industry. No medical model. No evidence based medicine and no test for chemical imbalance along with the absence of any imaging device to make any medical diagnoses gives the attorney all the room to make a statement on the Mental Health Industry..

The Mental Health Industry has a history of being dishonest, a fraud to the public and a threat to the health and welfare of the world societies. The industry is based on hearsay and is political.

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