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Pennsylvania's W.W. Bridal Boutique Under Fire For Reportedly Turning Away Lesbian Brides-To-Be

There are 23 comments on the Switched story from Aug 11, 2014, titled Pennsylvania's W.W. Bridal Boutique Under Fire For Reportedly Turning Away Lesbian Brides-To-Be. In it, Switched reports that:

A Pennsylvania bridal salon is feeling the heat after reportedly turning away a lesbian couple who were seeking wedding gowns.

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lgbt is silly

Knoxville, TN

#1 Aug 11, 2014
Nothing but sound and fury from the 1.6 percent who are homosexual. No laws have been broken and I doubt anything will be done.
lgbt is silly

Knoxville, TN

#2 Aug 11, 2014
Special note to the owners of W.W. Bridal Boutique:

Please remember that decent, normal people support you!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#3 Aug 11, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
Special note to the owners of W.W. Bridal Boutique:
Please remember that decent, normal people support you!
1 Peter 2:13-15

Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people.

Romans 13:1-14 ESV

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

1 Peter 4:15-16 (KJV)

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus - Galatians 3:28

Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

BTW thanks for the blessings you gave me today: Matthew 5:11
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Best of luck to you when you have to personally deal with Matt. 25:31-46

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#4 Aug 11, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
Special note to the owners of W.W. Bridal Boutique:
Please remember that decent, normal people support you!
Please show the SCOTUS Court cases that uphold religious discrimination in public accommodations.

You'll need them when this goes to appeal.

BTW:
Discrimination in Public Accommodations
State of PA

In general, public accommodations discrimination happens when someone is denied access to the facilities or services of a business or other public place, including local and state government. It may happen when services are denied outright, such as when someone is refused admission. It may also happen when they are denied the same service others receive; for example, if they are charged a different price or offered less service....

Who is protected?
For the denial of services to be illegal discrimination, it must be based on someone’s race; color; sex; ancestry; national origin; religious creed; handicap or disability; the use, handling or training of a guide or support animal for disability; or relationship to a person with a disability.

It is important to know that it is also illegal to discriminate against someone because they have opposed illegal discrimination, filed a complaint, or assisted in an investigation. This is called retaliation, and the law protects those who oppose illegal behavior.

Discrimination based on other factors may be unfair or unethical, but not specifically prohibited by law. If you have questions about the basis of discrimination, please contact us.

Examples

Here are just a few situations that may be illegal discrimination in public accommodations:

a restaurant owner refuses to serve a customer wearing religious headgear
a delivery service will not to deliver to a largely minority neighborhood, but serves surrounding non-minority neighborhoods
a bus driver refuses to allow a minority person on the bus
a municipality will not provide handicapped-accessible parking to residents with disabilities
a university does not provide a wheelchair accessible entrance to a classroom building
a "private membership" club solicits members from the general public, but denies admission based on race or religion
*Remember that to be illegal, such treatment must be based on characteristics listed above these examples. These are just a few examples of illegal discrimination in public accommodations. Find more examples here.

What is a public accommodation?
PA anti-discrimination laws specifically define the terms “public accommodations”,“disabilities” and “accessibility” and may differ from other definitions of these terms. For example, a private club may fall under the legal definition of public accommodation and “disability” is not limited to those receiving government disability benefits. See our definitions page for specific definitions of these terms.

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.p...

PA bans discrimination in public accommodations due to religious views. And because of the sex of the customers.

Now about what THE BIBLE says:

Romans 13:1-14 ESV

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
weedydragon

Rocky River, OH

#5 Aug 11, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
Special note to the owners of W.W. Bridal Boutique:
Please remember that decent, normal people support you!
What planet are you living on? What is "normal". I'm gay and I'm normal, you freak!
Holy Silicon Wafer

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Aug 11, 2014
Chick fil A can cater this bridal boutique's weddings, but it will "overkill" when every single gift for the newlyweds is a handgun or a rifle.

Hope they don't fall out of love and fight!
Holy Silicon Wafer

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Aug 11, 2014
weedydragon wrote:
<quoted text>
What planet are you living on? What is "normal". I'm gay and I'm normal, you freak!
Planet Reparative Therapy. In the Closet Nebula.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#8 Aug 12, 2014
I saw this on FB along with a picture of their store.

EEEEK! Their window displays red bridesmaid dresses. YHVH says women who wear red will BURN in HELL. They are condemning bridesmaids to HELL where they will become bridesmaids of LILITH and SATAN!!!!!
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#9 Aug 12, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Please show the SCOTUS Court cases that uphold religious discrimination in public accommodations.
Much easier to cite their latest ruling. A closely held company is a 'person' with religious rights.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#10 Aug 12, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Much easier to cite their latest ruling. A closely held company is a 'person' with religious rights.
That doesn't affect Public accommodation you twit.

Try reading the ruling sometime and then show me where it strikes down Title 2 of the Civil Rights Act.

(You fibs were getting herder and harder to keep up with but this one's easy)
Phyllis Schlafly s Shroud

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Aug 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Much easier to cite their latest ruling. A closely held company is a 'person' with religious rights.
You aptly demonstrate how homophobes are found in the uneducated demographics.

Now get to work having those state AGs enforce unconstitutional anti sodomy laws still on the books, bigoted, ignorant pos.
Phyllis Schlafly s Shroud

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Aug 13, 2014
DNF wrote:
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That doesn't affect Public accommodation you twit.
Of course.

The bigots will try to extend Hobby Lobby's application to instances of public accommodations, however. I say that was the disingenuous intent of the sexually sick, right wing Justices all along, despite their explicit claims to the contrary about limited scope.
not a sheep

Australia

#13 Aug 17, 2014
a pervert that calls someone a bigot.....is still a pervert
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#14 Aug 17, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't affect Public accommodation you twit.
It will, wait and see. I would have sold those women 100 gowns, but I support the shop owner's freedom of choice.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#15 Aug 18, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It will, wait and see. I would have sold those women 100 gowns, but I support the shop owner's freedom of choice.
I also support their rights and freedom of choice.

If they choose to break the law that was duly passed then they choose to be criminals.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#16 Aug 18, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It will, wait and see. I would have sold those women 100 gowns, but I support the shop owner's freedom of choice.
It's interesting that when the economic benefits are yours you are quite happy with gays and lesbians.

Yet when we ask for the same benefits you have a problem.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#17 Aug 19, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>It's interesting that when the economic benefits are yours you are quite happy with gays and lesbians.
Yet when we ask for the same benefits you have a problem.
I've noticed that....they hate gays, but have no problem accepting money from us.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#18 Aug 19, 2014
DNF wrote:
Who is protected?
For the denial of services to be illegal discrimination, it must be based on someone’s race; color; sex; ancestry; national origin; religious creed; handicap or disability; the use, handling or training of a guide or support animal for disability; or relationship to a person with a disability.
Discrimination based on other factors may be unfair or unethical, but not specifically prohibited by law.
Looks like lesbians aren't.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#19 Aug 19, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>It's interesting that when the economic benefits are yours you are quite happy with gays and lesbians.
Yet when we ask for the same benefits you have a problem.
When I say that I would have sold them 100 dresses maybe you didn't understand me?
I would have provided a cake if I owned a bake shop and I would have sent a photographer if I had a photography business. That said, I support the right of other bakers and photographers to decline any business for any reason.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#20 Aug 21, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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When I say that I would have sold them 100 dresses maybe you didn't understand me?
I would have provided a cake if I owned a bake shop and I would have sent a photographer if I had a photography business. That said, I support the right of other bakers and photographers to decline any business for any reason.
Surprisingly I agree with you as well. That said, I am not defending criminal behavior. You seem to be.

Any business or person has the right to choose to obey the law or not. Free Will was given to us by God, not the State. That does NOT mean that we are free of the consequences of our choices.

BTW do you feel that under "religious freedom" the State can arrest ministers who perform SSMs as is the case in Indiana? Isn't that punishing them for their beliefs just as you claim the baker or photographers were?

That law has been on the books since 1997. Yet the religious right hasn't objected yet to the possible incarceration of members of clergy being a "States Rights" issue. And you seem to prefer to ignore the issue yourself.

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