Do you believe in Christianity? Then you believe in marriage equality

Oct 5, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: realchangenews.org

A century ago, America was immersed in social change, and Christians were leaders. They wrestled with issues such as womenís suffrage, prison reform, temperance, racial inequality, child labor and labor unions. Christians were a positive force for social change.

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david traversa

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Oct 5, 2012
 
But.. do you really believe what Jesus preached? I very seriously wonder..
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david traversa wrote:
But.. do you really believe what Jesus preached? I very seriously wonder..
You're not even an American citizen, just a dirty foreign queer.

Of course you hate Jesus.
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Horris wrote:
<quoted text>You're not even an American citizen, just a dirty foreign queer.
Of course you hate Jesus.
The only dirtiness here stems from your seriously unbalanced brain.. And I never said I "hate" Jesus ( a great Master I devotedly revere); which shows you can't even interpret correctly what you read..

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Your jesus wasn't an american, was dirty, and was foreign to boot. I don't know if he was gay, but he never married and hung around with 12 other guys day and night.
Horris wrote:
<quoted text>You're not even an American citizen, just a dirty foreign queer.
Of course you hate Jesus.

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Oct 6, 2012
 
The premise of this article is absurd. If christians were the leaders for change, then who were the ones who resisted change and eventually even fought a civil war over one such cause -- weren't they also christians?!

The christian community as a whole has very little to be proud of. Throughout history, whenever they sought to bring about change, it was only due to qualms of conscience over attrocities that were being committed within their own ranks. I won't even bother to cite examples because the list is endless.

Individuals, yes -- there have been commendable christians. But to state that "Christians were leaders" in reform is a distortion of the facts. There is no glory in trying to fix what you yourself have broken.

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Oct 6, 2012
 
"Of course, if you were to ask opponents of marriage equality why a straight couple should get married instead of living together, the procreation argument would likely go out the window, replaced with profound thoughts about love and commitment ó precisely the reason same-sex couples want to get married."

Yes, no one would marry if when they ask why they should, they're told they must populate the land.
This article is full of so many well pointed out facts that we've all been trying to articulate to religious nuts this entire time.

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Umninimuzi wrote:
The premise of this article is absurd. If christians were the leaders for change, then who were the ones who resisted change and eventually even fought a civil war over one such cause -- weren't they also christians?!
The christian community as a whole has very little to be proud of. Throughout history, whenever they sought to bring about change, it was only due to qualms of conscience over attrocities that were being committed within their own ranks. I won't even bother to cite examples because the list is endless.
Individuals, yes -- there have been commendable christians. But to state that "Christians were leaders" in reform is a distortion of the facts. There is no glory in trying to fix what you yourself have broken.
I think the one who wrote the article was coddling the Christians in order to get more support. You have to be gentle and nice to earn support, not scolding.
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The truth is it shouldn't matter what religion you are civil rights and equal protection under the law should be the goal for all American citizens. "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" should be for all citizens not those approved of by some churches.

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Umninimuzi wrote:
The premise of this article is absurd. If christians were the leaders for change, then who were the ones who resisted change and eventually even fought a civil war over one such cause -- weren't they also christians?!
The christian community as a whole has very little to be proud of. Throughout history, whenever they sought to bring about change, it was only due to qualms of conscience over attrocities that were being committed within their own ranks. I won't even bother to cite examples because the list is endless.
Individuals, yes -- there have been commendable christians. But to state that "Christians were leaders" in reform is a distortion of the facts. There is no glory in trying to fix what you yourself have broken.
Christianity ceased being a single unifying identity when the Catholic and Orthodox Churches went their merry ways. By the 19th Century, it had become a schizophrenic collective of competing identities capable of believing mutually exclusive ideas at the same time. Christianity existed as both the most important force against slavery and one of its more enthusiastic supporters at the very same time. If it weren't for the moral/humanitarian opposition kept alive in this country by the Episcopalians and other moderate Protestant Churches in the north, there never would have been much of an anti-slavery movement. The real irony here is that the very Christian Churches that the collective they are proud of for leading the way against slavery are for the most part, the ones they b*tch about today for leading the way to equality for us.

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Don't believe in Christianity but do believe in marriage

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Oct 7, 2012
 
MelissaBrownx3 wrote:
Don't believe in Christianity but do believe in marriage
And that means? What is your stance?

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Horris wrote:
<quoted text>You're not even an American citizen, just a dirty foreign queer.
Of course you hate Jesus.
This comment here represents christanity???

wow...

Or I should say 'scary'...

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Your jesus wasn't an american, was dirty, and was foreign to boot. I don't know if he was gay, but he never married and hung around with 12 other guys day and night.
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This comment deserves to heard again...impressive...

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