Vatican digs in after gay marriage ad...

Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances

There are 30 comments on the Star Tribune story from Nov 10, 2012, titled Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

The Vatican is digging in after gay marriage initiatives scored big wins this week in the U.S. and Europe, vowing to never stop insisting that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

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“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#1 Nov 10, 2012
"...the Vatican spokesman asked sarcastically why gay marriage proponents don't now push for legal recognition for polygamous couples as well."

Maybe cause we haven't gotten to our goal of Marriage Equality for our whole nation yet? Or, maybe because polygamy is not our goal?

And who the hell cares what the Vatican has to say about secular, legal marriage? Let them dictate to their own members, and leave the rest of us alone. Nosy bastards.

And before I am accused of hating Christians, let me state that I don't hate anyone, but I don't really like "christians".
john e

Geneseo, NY

#2 Nov 10, 2012
Men in gold lined dresses and funny pointy hats being indignant. It would be a great plot for a farce if it weren't true. The church just hasn't been the same since they gave up on the inquisition.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#3 Nov 10, 2012
The Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church IS EVIL. I'm a church-going Protestant.

And we are a secular republic. WHAT gives the RCC the right to dictate to CIVIL AUTHORITIES, and NON-CATHOLIC religious institutions, who FREELY CHOOSE NOT TO BE ROMAN CATHOLIC, what the civil marriage laws should be, AND what types of marriages, PROTESTANT churches, and other religious institutions may sancitfy ?!

The answer: NONE ! THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THAT !

This isn't pre-Protestant Reformation Europe ! This is a SECULAR democratic republic ! But you all know damn-well that the RCC wishes it wasn't, and that they could continue burning people who disagree with them at the stake !(Remember Giordano Bruno !).

THIS IS WHY I have maintained for DECADES that the Roman Catholic Church IS an Evil Institution ! They do NOT belive in, nor support, DEMOCRACY, republics, and secularism !

And I'm a church-going Christian !
Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Nov 10, 2012
I hope the catholic church is digging its own grave/

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#5 Nov 10, 2012
Ostriches in ecclesiastical drag. Their heads will be in the sand till they suffocate.
SirAndrew

Honolulu, HI

#13 Nov 10, 2012
Apparently the Pekin Monster has been released from his padded cell. And he is digging into his archives for copies of his usual blather. At least he has reset the spacing so his lunacy doesn't fill as much screen landscape as before.

I fear both this moron and the catholics have driven well past the last exit to relevance.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#14 Nov 10, 2012
Caleb wrote:
No Christian will ever accept homosexual 'marriage.' Of course few homosexuals accept it as an actual practice!
The Bible forever condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
No rational human will ever buy your false fake names, DAVID MOORE of Pekin. Why do you continue to LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE? You are fooling NO one. Since we already caught you in one lie, then all of your post is also suspect to be LIES.

You lie more than SATAN.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#15 Nov 10, 2012
SirAndrew wrote:
Apparently the Pekin Monster has been released from his padded cell. And he is digging into his archives for copies of his usual blather. At least he has reset the spacing so his lunacy doesn't fill as much screen landscape as before.
I fear both this moron and the catholics have driven well past the last exit to relevance.
You mean DAVID MOORE of S. 18th Street in Pekin, Illinois? The one who lies when it is not even necessary? You mean THAT Pekin Monster?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Nov 10, 2012
SirAndrew wrote:
Apparently the Pekin Monster has been released from his padded cell. And he is digging into his archives for copies of his usual blather. At least he has reset the spacing so his lunacy doesn't fill as much screen landscape as before.
I fear both this moron and the catholics have driven well past the last exit to relevance.
While the Pekin Monster is certainly loathesome, and of doubtful sanity, you and your compatriots who insist on responding to him, or merely ackinowledging his existence at all, are almost equally as bad as it is.

Why do you and others feel compelled to respond to him ? Just do what I almost always do, and that is just completely ignore him and refuse to respond in any way to his ridiculous (Aristophanes) rants.

Can't ya do that ?

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#22 Nov 10, 2012
Caleb wrote:
No Christian will ever accept homosexual 'marriage.' Of course few homosexuals accept it as an actual practice!
The Bible forever condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Still in a snit, David? Take your meds and go back to sleep. BTW, you know that Caleb is from the Hebrew word for dog, don't you?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#24 Nov 10, 2012
Ben wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for exposing the hate, bigotry, prejudice, and illogic that lie at the base of the radical homosexual movement.
You aren't a Christian, and that is your privilege. The Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. No Christian can ever support what GOD condemns.
As a church-going Lutheran, I'm just quoting Martin Luther, David.

:)
john e

Geneseo, NY

#25 Nov 11, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>So, liar, do you think lying about my identity changes the truth.
Cite ONE Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in questions the many of God's condemnations of all homosexual behavior that I referenced from both Testaments.
Oh! That's right! You cannot, for YOU are the liar and servant of Satan.
what's a bible?
john e

Geneseo, NY

#26 Nov 11, 2012
SirAndrew wrote:
Apparently the Pekin Monster has been released from his padded cell. And he is digging into his archives for copies of his usual blather. At least he has reset the spacing so his lunacy doesn't fill as much screen landscape as before.
I fear both this moron and the catholics have driven well past the last exit to relevance.


He's so good at cut and paste. Not very good at non-linear thought. As if after all these years his posts haven't been disregarded enough.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#27 Nov 11, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>So, liar, do you think lying about my identity changes the truth.
Cite ONE Bible translation, ancient Bible text, or Judeo-Christian tradition that places in questions the many of God's condemnations of all homosexual behavior that I referenced from both Testaments.
Oh! That's right! You cannot, for YOU are the liar and servant of Satan.
what-EVER, DAVID MOORE, whatever, DAVID.

Can you just ONCE give us ONE word that Jesus the blessed savior said about homosexuality? Just ONE word? Thanks, you're a doll.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#28 Nov 11, 2012
Ben wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for exposing the hate, bigotry, prejudice, and illogic that lie at the base of the radical homosexual movement.
You aren't a Christian, and that is your privilege. The Bible repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. No Christian can ever support what GOD condemns.
And YOU can accuse me of lying? You were just CALEB about 4 posts ago, and are now BEN?

Ahem..."No one who practices DECEIT shall dwell in my house, no one who utters LIES shall continue before My eyes."
Psalms 10:7

Some Christian YOU must be.

You lie now and aren't even aware of it! Pathological much?
Uve

Indio, CA

#29 Nov 11, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>And YOU can accuse me of lying? You were just CALEB about 4 posts ago, and are now BEN?
Ahem..."No one who practices DECEIT shall dwell in my house, no one who utters LIES shall continue before My eyes."
Psalms 10:7
Some Christian YOU must be.
You lie now and aren't even aware of it! Pathological much?
Is this the guy that dresses in Jesus drag with the huge home built cross in the back yard?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#30 Nov 11, 2012
Uve wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this the guy that dresses in Jesus drag with the huge home built cross in the back yard?
Yes, he is. He is also over 60 and STILL has a miraculous black beard. Ah, the wonders of "Just For Men" beard dye. As if he is not false in all other ways.

I like his profile photo of him standing in front of the Golden Gate Bridge in gay ol' San Francisco. I guess he had SUCH a good time there he wants to brag about his visit!

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#33 Nov 11, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>I doubt the person you mention has ever been here, but I'm happy to oblige. John 1:1 tells us that Jesus is THE WORD.
The WORD says:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Oh, OK, BEN, sorry, I mean CALEB, I mean...oh, whatever.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#34 Nov 11, 2012
Still awaiting ONE of Jesus' words about homosexuality. Just one is all we need.
david traversa

Tucuman, Argentina

#35 Nov 11, 2012
Caleb wrote:
No Christian will ever accept homosexual 'marriage.' Of course few homosexuals accept it as an actual practice!
The Bible forever condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
The Bible, along with some wisdom inherited from civilizations that preceded it, has a lot of criminal nonsense that nobody in his right mind would condone today; it's just another book written by oh, so very fallible and ignorant men. Jesus Christ knew this and refused to join in their folly.. You'd best do the same before bitterness withers your spirit.

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