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Obama Leads Mitt Romney In Ohio; 50% Say Gay Marriage An Issue

There are 556 comments on the On Top Magazine story from Sep 23, 2012, titled Obama Leads Mitt Romney In Ohio; 50% Say Gay Marriage An Issue. In it, On Top Magazine reports that:

The poll, commissioned by Cleveland's The Plain Dealer and other major newspapers in the state, shows Obama leading Romney 51 percent to 46 percent.

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xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22 Sep 23, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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Yep, that's why Romney is behind in just about every silly poll including the swing states.......lol!!!
Keep betting your money on September polls. I'm sure you'll come out a winner.
notlocal

AOL

#23 Sep 23, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
Name ANY US President who has done MORE for the gay community than President Obama.
You're only making yourself look foolish my making such statements as this one.
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First of all, I am not anti-gay. I have two cousins who are gay and a couple friends, one of whom I would take a bullet for. They aren't bitching about anything and all are leading happy and sucessful lives.

What has Obama done for you? Give me a list.

And then give me a list of rights you are denied because of your sexual orientation.

You have every right available to you under civil remedies that any hetrosexual has to use. Wills, POA's, Medical POA's, deeds, etc.

You can get married anywhere in the country. If you can find a pastor or priest to marry you, fine. Go at it. But you cannot force anyone to go against their religious beliefs, and they are as private to them as your sexual preference is to you. It's their right.

You can adopt.

You can add your partner to your employer provided health insurance.

What can you not do? Do you want additional rights?

Maybe an LGBT tax exemption like the EIC?

Where are you being mistreated by the government or treated unlawyfully?

If you don't perform your job well and you are 'let go', is that being anti-gay?

I am so tired of being called a racist, a bigot, anti-something-or-other.

This is an important election.

Social issues should not be part of it. Why does everyone have to tip toe around and mince words because of you?

Don't forget those two factual lists. Obama's promises mean nothing. Just ask Univision.
notlocal

AOL

#24 Sep 23, 2012
By the way, I have known the Cathy's of Chick fil A for about 30 years. They are wonderful, self made people who would hurt no one.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#25 Sep 23, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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I think they have been asking that and they don't like the answer they get.
The people have no confidence in the answers offered by the Republicans. In fact, Republican answers are widely thought to make things worse.
That's not what the voters said in 2010. In fact, they said quite the opposite.

What we are looking at is the bad or the worst. That's our choices this year. It's just that the voters have to decide which is the bad and which is the worst. This is where DumBama loses traction because we have already seen him in action. So the real question is, can it get any worse than Obama?
A Bureaucrat

Minneapolis, MN

#26 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
Ohio voted several years ago on gay marriage, and we voted it down. In fact, it was voted down in the several other states where it was on the ballot.
Polls mean nothing unless they get participants equally from the Democrats, Republicans and Independents. They also mean nothing unless they are from likely voters. But many of the polls so far asked more Democrats than Republicans. Your link to the story doesn't seem to work for some reason. The page won't load, so I don't know how these polls were conducted.
Trying to determine a winner this early in this election by polls is like trying to rely on the seven day weather forecast for the seventh day. Most times it's the exact opposite. Let one or two debates go by before you start relying on polls. They are meaningless now.
The best place to get a more reliable read of trends is realclearpolitics.com , not some podunk homocrat newspaper.
The so-called "Plain Dealer" poll results will be aggregated with other media polls @ RCP to arrive at how popular Pres Obama is with self-selected liberals.
Your skepticism about polls is well founded.
The only poll that really matters is the privacy of the voting booth, and the homosexual marriage-counterfeiters have been defeated every single time by the voters.
Jazzcat

AOL

#27 Sep 23, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
So much for the President's support of marriage equality hurting him!
!!
Ohio folks would be well advised to worry more about Obama's War on Oil than it's gay vote.

BYW. the polls are even which bodes badly for an incumbent.
A Bureaucrat

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not what the voters said in 2010. In fact, they said quite the opposite.
What we are looking at is the bad or the worst. That's our choices this year. It's just that the voters have to decide which is the bad and which is the worst. This is where DumBama loses traction because we have already seen him in action. So the real question is, can it get any worse than Obama?
An Obama that isn't facing re-election or accountability to the voters after he gets another term is a frightening prospect indeed.
Obama will wreak utter vengeance upon his most hated enemy, the American people.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#29 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Keep betting your money on September polls. I'm sure you'll come out a winner.
Did ya MISS the word "SILLY"?

Though I'm not putting money on ANY polls at this time......I've always stated that the President would probably win reelection!!!!

Romney ONLY cares about the wealthiest of the American population.....and I seriously doubt you are in that 1%!!!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#30 Sep 23, 2012
A Bureaucrat wrote:
<quoted text>The best place to get a more reliable read of trends is realclearpolitics.com , not some podunk homocrat newspaper.
The so-called "Plain Dealer" poll results will be aggregated with other media polls @ RCP to arrive at how popular Pres Obama is with self-selected liberals.
Your skepticism about polls is well founded.
The only poll that really matters is the privacy of the voting booth, and the homosexual marriage-counterfeiters have been defeated every single time by the voters.
The theme of the liberal media is to try and convince us that the election is over before it started; Romney can't win, so just stay home. If we let it happen, it could turn out that way. That's why more than ever, we have to urge people to get out and vote Obama out of office. We have to remind people of what a DumBama second term might mean for America:

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#31 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not what the voters said in 2010. In fact, they said quite the opposite.
You're right......the voters BOUGHT into the Tea Party/Republicans promises to fix the economy, jobs and the housing market......BUT they didn't know how to do that so, instead turned their attention on social issues, more specifically Gays and Lesbians.......turning the American peoples attention to something else.

Well, I don't believe that the Republicans will have the same results.....and the polls from the other posters website clearly shows that......but we are still 6 weeks away from the election and ANYTHING could still happen!!!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#32 Sep 23, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Did ya MISS the word "SILLY"?
Though I'm not putting money on ANY polls at this time......I've always stated that the President would probably win reelection!!!!
Romney ONLY cares about the wealthiest of the American population.....and I seriously doubt you are in that 1%!!!
What makes you say he only cares about the wealthiest Americans, and why would he care about those people? What evidence do you have to support your claim? The same old platitude that the Republicans are for the rich and the Democrats are for the poor? Let me ask: who did Obama sell those $30,000 dinner tickets to? The homeless?

As I stated repeatedly, I am not voting for Romney, I'm voting against Obama. I don't care if he's running against the comedian Robin Williams. I'm voting Obama out no matter what. This is the closest our country has ever been to fascism in our history. We are heading in the wrong direction, and I'm not just talking about the economy.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#33 Sep 23, 2012
notlocal wrote:
You can get married anywhere in the country. If you can find a pastor or priest to marry you, fine.
This statement is correct......but you are missing one very important aspect of marriage......THE STATE ISSUED MARRIAGE LICENSE!!!!

There is a difference between having a wedding ceremony or a commitment ceremony......ANYONE regardless of gender make-up can do that......BUT being able to go down to the County Clerk's office and apply for a marriage license......well, that's what this issue is all about......THE RIGHT TO HAVE ONE'S MARRIAGE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED by the State and eventually the federal government!!!!

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#34 Sep 23, 2012
Here is what Obama has accomplished thus far: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...

I can be denied both housing and employment because of nothing else but my sexual orientation with no legal protection under federal law and the laws of my state. Of course those mean nothing, after all who needs a job or a place to live.

My spouse of 18 years is in-eligible to receive my SSI when I die. He is not eligible to apply for citizenship under our marriage. He will be penalized when he inherits some of my estate. Many cannot add their partners to their health insurance. It's not provided or orotected by law.

Civil marriage has absolutely nothing to do with religion so you can just cook that red herring for dinner.

And my assessment remains the same, you simply don't know what you are talking about. As to the labeling youre getting closer to earning of one or more with each of your posts. I'll name them for you if you wish.
notlocal wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, I am not anti-gay. I have two cousins who are gay and a couple friends, one of whom I would take a bullet for. They aren't bitching about anything and all are leading happy and sucessful lives.
What has Obama done for you? Give me a list.
And then give me a list of rights you are denied because of your sexual orientation.
You have every right available to you under civil remedies that any hetrosexual has to use. Wills, POA's, Medical POA's, deeds, etc.
You can get married anywhere in the country. If you can find a pastor or priest to marry you, fine. Go at it. But you cannot force anyone to go against their religious beliefs, and they are as private to them as your sexual preference is to you. It's their right.
You can adopt.
You can add your partner to your employer provided health insurance.
What can you not do? Do you want additional rights?
Maybe an LGBT tax exemption like the EIC?
Where are you being mistreated by the government or treated unlawyfully?
If you don't perform your job well and you are 'let go', is that being anti-gay?
I am so tired of being called a racist, a bigot, anti-something-or-other.
This is an important election.
Social issues should not be part of it. Why does everyone have to tip toe around and mince words because of you?
Don't forget those two factual lists. Obama's promises mean nothing. Just ask Univision.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#35 Sep 23, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right......the voters BOUGHT into the Tea Party/Republicans promises to fix the economy, jobs and the housing market......BUT they didn't know how to do that so, instead turned their attention on social issues, more specifically Gays and Lesbians.......turning the American peoples attention to something else.
Well, I don't believe that the Republicans will have the same results.....and the polls from the other posters website clearly shows that......but we are still 6 weeks away from the election and ANYTHING could still happen!!!
If you like statistics so much, then perhaps you should be aware that a study was conducted to see which voters are not likely to vote this year. As it turns out, it seems that Obama has lost a lot of steam since last election. His voters are more likely to stay home than Republicans.

The Republicans control one-third of our government right now, and that does not give them the ability to perform magic. What they did do is stop the idiotic spending by the Democrats. That's a help, but not a solution. They only took leadership less than two years ago, and this Congress never addressed anything in relation to gays to my knowledge.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#36 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you say he only cares about the wealthiest Americans, and why would he care about those people? What evidence do you have to support your claim? The same old platitude that the Republicans are for the rich and the Democrats are for the poor? Let me ask: who did Obama sell those $30,000 dinner tickets to? The homeless?
As I stated repeatedly, I am not voting for Romney, I'm voting against Obama. I don't care if he's running against the comedian Robin Williams. I'm voting Obama out no matter what. This is the closest our country has ever been to fascism in our history. We are heading in the wrong direction, and I'm not just talking about the economy.
Have you not listened to him? Believe as you want......but Romney isn't for those who are different from him......and all ya have to do is listen to the video that was made public a few days ago!!!

Well, you certainly are entitled to vote as you see fit......but it is my opinion that the President will win a second term.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#37 Sep 23, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
Here is what Obama has accomplished thus far: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files...
I can be denied both housing and employment because of nothing else but my sexual orientation with no legal protection under federal law and the laws of my state. Of course those mean nothing, after all who needs a job or a place to live.
My spouse of 18 years is in-eligible to receive my SSI when I die. He is not eligible to apply for citizenship under our marriage. He will be penalized when he inherits some of my estate. Many cannot add their partners to their health insurance. It's not provided or orotected by law.
Civil marriage has absolutely nothing to do with religion so you can just cook that red herring for dinner.
And my assessment remains the same, you simply don't know what you are talking about. As to the labeling youre getting closer to earning of one or more with each of your posts. I'll name them for you if you wish.
<quoted text>
So my live-in girlfriend cannot collect my SS either. What's the point? Who needs their others SS money anyway? Everybody works male and female. Besides, I think that unless you can prove you supported your wife due to raising the family, nobody should be allowed to pass their SS to anybody. We all have our own accounts today, and the program is going broke to boot.

You cannot be denied employment or housing because of your sexual orientation. Trust me, I'm a landlord. Here in Ohio, the state has sued landlords for not allowing pets in their apartments. They claimed it was discrimination against the disabled.

But even if I were married, my employer can still deny my request to put my wife on his insurance plan. There is no law about that for straight or gay people.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#38 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
If you like statistics so much, then perhaps you should be aware that a study was conducted to see which voters are not likely to vote this year. As it turns out, it seems that Obama has lost a lot of steam since last election. His voters are more likely to stay home than Republicans.
The Republicans control one-third of our government right now, and that does not give them the ability to perform magic. What they did do is stop the idiotic spending by the Democrats. That's a help, but not a solution. They only took leadership less than two years ago, and this Congress never addressed anything in relation to gays to my knowledge.
The Republicans HAVE stalled our government by making demands and costing us our credit ratings......and if Romney should win, you will still see stalling as the House could go back to the Democratic control and the Senate remain under the Dem's control.

Look, I seriously don't believe REAL CHANGE will happen as long as we stay in a 2 party system......neither the Democrats or the Republicans KNOW how to fix our economy, increase jobs or lower the defect........both sides are just pandering to the voter and let's face it......some voters don't truly understand what is being asked of them......that's why the Electoral College still pretty much decides who the president is!!!

Really, then you have missed what Boehner did with taxpayers money without the approval of the full House......something about hiring a private lawyer to defend DOMA.......maybe you should do a little research on that......or the fact that some Ohio Representative has stated that if the Republicans win in November that DADT should be reinstated, even though there has been no issue with the repeal......and that every Gay and Lesbian Service Member who has openly come out, should be discharged......seems like an attack on Gays and Lesbians if ya ask me!!!
notllocal

AOL

#39 Sep 23, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
This statement is correct......but you are missing one very important aspect of marriage......THE STATE ISSUED MARRIAGE LICENSE!!!!
There is a difference between having a wedding ceremony or a commitment ceremony......ANYONE regardless of gender make-up can do that......BUT being able to go down to the County Clerk's office and apply for a marriage license......well, that's what this issue is all about......THE RIGHT TO HAVE ONE'S MARRIAGE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED by the State and eventually the federal government!!!!
Any provisions a state issued marriage license gives you is available to you through civil remedies in any municipality. You want to claim your partner on your federal tax return? Legally adopt them.

And by the way, the priviledge of adding your partner to your employer provided health insurance was made into law waaaay before Obama ever thought of running for office.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#40 Sep 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
But even if I were married, my employer can still deny my request to put my wife on his insurance plan. There is no law about that for straight or gay people.
Actually, an employer can not deny to cover a legal spouse for insurance purposes........that's one of the fights going on about why Civil Unions/DP's don't work!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#41 Sep 23, 2012
notllocal wrote:
<quoted text>
Any provisions a state issued marriage license gives you is available to you through civil remedies in any municipality. You want to claim your partner on your federal tax return? Legally adopt them.
And by the way, the priviledge of adding your partner to your employer provided health insurance was made into law waaaay before Obama ever thought of running for office.
Sorry, but NO it's not.......wills don't work in many Same-Sex Couples relationships who have had them, nor Power of Attorney's either.

I'm NOT going to adopt my spouse......she's not a child.....she's my wife and we are legally married and our marriage deserves to be recognized by the federal government just like any other legal marriage is!!!

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