The Chick-Fil-A Battle Is Just Getting Silly, And A Bit Suspect

There is the fact that Cathy is not going to listen. Honestly, he won’t. He has made up his mind that his religious beliefs trump the Constitution, and like all fanatics, he will not be swayed. While we may battle men like Cathy, our real aim should be to educate those who will listen. Our battle is to sway those who have not closed their minds, and being mean and spiteful is not going to help that.

[david traversa]

The mean and spiteful will always be with us; they have, it's sad to realize, no other aim in life.. It's our duty (an easy one I must say) to treat their meanness as you would that of the mentally impaired, with patience and pity.. Personal unhappiness has a lot to do with their attitude.. In short, it's their problem, not ours..

[Juanpaul]

david traversa wrote:

The mean and spiteful will always be with us; they have, it's sad to realize, no other aim in life.. It's our duty (an easy one I must say) to treat their meanness as you would that of the mentally impaired, with patience and pity.. Personal unhappiness has a lot to do with their attitude.. In short, it's their problem, not ours..

I totally agree with you.

[Snickers]

Ah, now that you've seen the multitudes flocking to Chik-Fil-A in support of Mr. Cathy and his business, you say it is getting silly. I beg to differ. It wasn't silly at all today. I don't know the numbers yet, but I've heard and seen reports that Chik-fil-A's across the nation were swamped. The one I went to had a line of cars waiting out on the main road just to get onto the road where Chik-Fil-A is. It took two hours to get a meal, and much of what they normally offer was sold out. People were laughing and smiling, being very polite with one another. Nobody impatient. We were were making history, on the RIGHT side of history. And everybody I mentioned your "kiss-in" to made a face of disgust.

I told you last year that picking on Chik-Fil-A was the wrong thing to do. It has hurt your cause tremendously because it made so many more people aware of the attack that gays are making on the right to have true Christian beliefs, not the watered down, liberal gay version of Christian beliefs. The "kiss-in" will be the icing on the cake. Judging by the reactions I saw, it is going to be like anti-public relations. But please, have at it. You'll only help Chik-Fil-A by doing it. I suspect a lot more people will swarm the place just to show support ... for Chik-Fil-A, not for gays.

[Sei]

Snickers wrote:

Ah, now that you've seen the multitudes flocking to Chik-Fil-A in support of Mr. Cathy and his business, you say it is getting silly.

Apparently you have the memory of a stunned goldfish.

I've been saying that this stuff was silly now for a week. Either you never bothered to notice it or you were too busy looking for your nonexistent personal parts with a mirror and a magnifying glass.

[Judy Miller]

Snickers wrote:

Ah, now that you've seen the multitudes flocking to Chik-Fil-A in support of Mr. Cathy and his business, you say it is getting silly. I beg to differ. It wasn't silly at all today. I don't know the numbers yet, but I've heard and seen reports that Chik-fil-A's across the nation were swamped. The one I went to had a line of cars waiting out on the main road just to get onto the road where Chik-Fil-A is. It took two hours to get a meal, and much of what they normally offer was sold out. People were laughing and smiling, being very polite with one another. Nobody impatient. We were were making history, on the RIGHT side of history. And everybody I mentioned your "kiss-in" to made a face of disgust.
I told you last year that picking on Chik-Fil-A was the wrong thing to do. It has hurt your cause tremendously because it made so many more people aware of the attack that gays are making on the right to have true Christian beliefs, not the watered down, liberal gay version of Christian beliefs. The "kiss-in" will be the icing on the cake. Judging by the reactions I saw, it is going to be like anti-public relations. But please, have at it. You'll only help Chik-Fil-A by doing it. I suspect a lot more people will swarm the place just to show support ... for Chik-Fil-A, not for gays.

This is for real?
Gays hate people that go to Chick-fil-A?
I'm starting to believe it.
I've never seen so much hate for such a stupid reason.
Wow.

[Snickers]

Judy Miller wrote:

<quoted text>This is for real?
Gays hate people that go to Chick-fil-A?
I'm starting to believe it.
I've never seen so much hate for such a stupid reason.
Wow.

Yes, Judy, it is for real. They hate anyone who doesn't think the definition of marriage should be rewritten to accommodate them. The CEO of Chik-Fil-A believes in the defintion that has existed for all time - marriage is a man and a woman becoming one and committed to each other for life, forsaking all others. He's not all talk. He gives money to organizations that also believe in the traditional defintion of marriage. So they hate him, and they hate anyone who buys food at Chik-Fil-A because they are giving Mr. Cathy money that he can pass on to those who are working hard to preserve the defintion of marriage. Just for the record, I don't hate people who shop at Target or Gap or Old Navy or Starbucks or any of those organizations that give money to help the gays corrupt the definition of marriage. I have doubts about their intelligence, but I don't hate them. It is for real a stupid reason to hate someone.

[Snickers]

Sei wrote:

<quoted text>
Apparently you have the memory of a stunned goldfish.
I've been saying that this stuff was silly now for a week. Either you never bothered to notice it or you were too busy looking for your nonexistent personal parts with a mirror and a magnifying glass.

Like I have time to read every single post that ever appears on Gay/Lesbian Topix. I don't have that much time. I'm sorry I missed your posts saying that. You were absolutely right.

[Judy Miller]

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes, Judy, it is for real. They hate anyone who doesn't think the definition of marriage should be rewritten to accommodate them. The CEO of Chik-Fil-A believes in the defintion that has existed for all time - marriage is a man and a woman becoming one and committed to each other for life, forsaking all others. He's not all talk. He gives money to organizations that also believe in the traditional defintion of marriage. So they hate him, and they hate anyone who buys food at Chik-Fil-A because they are giving Mr. Cathy money that he can pass on to those who are working hard to preserve the defintion of marriage. Just for the record, I don't hate people who shop at Target or Gap or Old Navy or Starbucks or any of those organizations that give money to help the gays corrupt the definition of marriage. I have doubts about their intelligence, but I don't hate them. It is for real a stupid reason to hate someone.

Thanks Snickers for taking time to respond.
I'm still floored by how much gay people absolutely HATE Christians with a white-hot hate.
They're supposed to be nice to people, I guess just to their face.
Gays really HATE Christians, don't they?
Wow!

[whitefalcon1678]

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>
Like I have time to read every single post that ever appears on Gay/Lesbian Topix. I don't have that much time. I'm sorry I missed your posts saying that. You were absolutely right.

This fight with Chik Fil A has been ridiculous from the start.

It is no secret that this company has donated to anti-gay organizations in the past. The gay community has known it for years. It is why I do not buy their products, for the same reason that I do not shop at Wal Mart.

The fact that this is the symbol of anything is annoying. However, this highlights the point of the gay marriage movement. If you do not want one, do not get one. But do not make that choice for someone else.

[whitefalcon1678]

Judy Miller wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks Snickers for taking time to respond.
I'm still floored by how much gay people absolutely HATE Christians with a white-hot hate.
They're supposed to be nice to people, I guess just to their face.
Gays really HATE Christians, don't they?
Wow!

Gays do not hate Christians specifically. Gays hate people that systematically refer to them as perverts, diseased, pedophiles, immoral, and in general, less-than-human. A lot of Christians fit into this category, so it becomes an issue. Personally I am a Christian, but that does not mean I favor all Christians. The Westboro church disturbs me particularly.

Besides. I'm still floored by how much Christians absolutely HATE gay people with a white-hot hate.
Theyre supposed to be nice to people, I guess just to their face.
Christians really HATE gays, don't they?

See how the coin flips?

[Judy Miller]

whitefalcon1678 wrote:

<quoted text>
This fight with Chik Fil A has been ridiculous from the start.
It is no secret that this company has donated to anti-gay organizations in the past. The gay community has known it for years. It is why I do not buy their products, for the same reason that I do not shop at Wal Mart.
The fact that this is the symbol of anything is annoying. However, this highlights the point of the gay marriage movement. If you do not want one, do not get one. But do not make that choice for someone else.

But you gays have the government on your side with all your agents and guns and weapons.
Gays hate Christians and America.

[whitefalcon1678]

DelusionalYou wrote:

What if we look at this from a different angle? People can be against dangerous activities without being bigots right? If I say that I am against cigarettes or alcohol does that make me a bigot against smokers and drinkers or perhaps a "closet smoker"?
Man-on-man/boy sodomy is a dangerous activity. HIV rates amongst homosexuals is insanely large. Here is a quote from the CDC:
"Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections"
So man-on-man/boy sodomy is extremely dangerous. Chick-fil-a is basically saying that they do not support the rampant rise of HIV.
Homosexuals have deadly sexual habits and there is nothing wrong with being against it. Then consider the thousands of boys who are molested by gay men each year. Many of these poor children are infected with HIV, go on to practice man-on-man sodomy and end up molesting boys too. The cycle never ends. Chick-fil-a should be commended for standing up against dangerous and bizarre sexual activities. Would they be catching so much grief if they had said that they are against beastilality or incest, close cousins of homosexuality?

Do not confuse homosexuality with pedophilia.

Chick Fil A has never directly or indirectly referred to HIV as a reason for their stance. Their issue is Biblical.

Heterosexuals have deadly sexual habits as well, considering rates of underage pregnancy, STD rates concerning herpes, gonorrhea, and hepatitis. Not to mention all of the weird fetishes.

Be careful about your blanket statements. Many people will catch you in lies and be a lot more rude than I am. Beastiality involves consent, incest involves genetics, and they are completely unrelated to the definition of homosexuality as termed by every major medical association in the country.

[Snickers]

whitefalcon1678 wrote:

<quoted text>
Gays do not hate Christians specifically. Gays hate people that systematically refer to them as perverts, diseased, pedophiles, immoral, and in general, less-than-human. A lot of Christians fit into this category, so it becomes an issue. Personally I am a Christian, but that does not mean I favor all Christians. The Westboro church disturbs me particularly.
Besides. I'm still floored by how much Christians absolutely HATE gay people with a white-hot hate.
Theyre supposed to be nice to people, I guess just to their face.
Christians really HATE gays, don't they?
See how the coin flips?

No, I don't see how the coin flips. I have never told a gay person that I wished them dead EVER, though I have been told that many, many times by gay people. I do not hate gay people. I don't know any Christians who do. I just feel compelled to resist the changes that gays are attempting to make in society and politics. Marriage is a man and a woman, and it has always been a man and a woman. For the benefit of the fabric of society, I believe it should STAY a man and a woman. Judging by the turnout at Chik-Fil-A today, a lot of people feel that way. BTW, I don't consider the Westboro Baptist Church a real Christian church. I'll leave it to God to judge whether or not the individuals people are truly Christians.

[whitefalcon1678]

Judy Miller wrote:

<quoted text>But you gays have the government on your side with all your agents and guns and weapons.
Gays hate Christians and America.

If we had the government on our side then we would be able to get married already.

[whitefalcon1678]

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>
No, I don't see how the coin flips. I have never told a gay person that I wished them dead EVER, though I have been told that many, many times by gay people. I do not hate gay people. I don't know any Christians who do. I just feel compelled to resist the changes that gays are attempting to make in society and politics. Marriage is a man and a woman, and it has always been a man and a woman. For the benefit of the fabric of society, I believe it should STAY a man and a woman. Judging by the turnout at Chik-Fil-A today, a lot of people feel that way. BTW, I don't consider the Westboro Baptist Church a real Christian church. I'll leave it to God to judge whether or not the individuals people are truly Christians.

Have you been told directly that you are hated? Because I have. A christian got in my face and told me that I was going to hell.

Religious marriage may be between a man and a woman. I respect that. I will allow you to reserve the right to believe that. But I believe my relationship, founded upon trust and committment, solidified in monogomy and a vow til death do we part, is no less a marriage because of the gender of my partner. And a secular government has no business differentiating the two when it is widely known that there is no psychological difference between the two. And the fabric of society? Gay marriage will not stop straight people from marrying. What on earth will deteriorate? I have never understood that. Gay people live together, recognized or not, and that will not change, so the fabric of society is what it is and will not alter based on public or legal recognition of our relationships.

[whitefalcon1678]

DelusionalYou wrote:

"Heterosexuals have deadly sexual habits as well, considering rates of underage pregnancy, STD rates concerning herpes, gonorrhea, and hepatitis. Not to mention all of the weird fetishes."
Not nearly as deadly as man-on-man/boy sodomy.

What is the difference between one virus that kills you and another?

Absolutely nothing.

You speak of actions between grown adults and children. That is not homosexuality. That is pedophilia, and it is detestable.

"Beastiality involves consent"
Chimps are able to communicate via sign language. They also share 95%+ of our DNA. If two men can marry than who has the right to say that a man and a consenting chimp cannot marry? Isn't that a bit hypocritical, even for a man-on-man/boy advocate? Recent reports indicate that there are more zoophiles in the USA than there are homosexuals, though the vast majority of homosexuals call both camps home.

A chimp is not able to consent because a chimp does not have the intelligence of an adult. For the same reason, the age of consent for humans is typically the age where they are recognized as capable of the decision as an adult. And continuing that line of reasoning, why mentally deficient people are not capable of sexual consent unless deemed fit by the legal system.

I have never known one gay or lesbian to be attracted to a species other than their own.

"incest involves genetics"
Homosexuality is just as bad, genetically speaking. My genes make me a man. My fiance's genes make her a woman. That is the perfect genetic match. Bob and Bill do not match. Then consider the fact that many homosexuals were "inducted" into this "lifestyle" through molestation by relatives. Incest and homosexuality go hand in hand.

Your chromosomes make you a man. Your fiances chromosomes make her a woman. Unless of course, she has a condition where her cells cannot intake testosterone, which caused her testicles to remain in her abdomen and a vagina to form where the descent of the testes and the scrotum sac was supposed to form. So when puberty hit, the excess estrogen produced from the secondary sex glands caused her to form as a woman, despite her genetics making her male.

You see, it is not as simple as man/woman, penis/vagina. Unless you do true research, you do not know the influence of a combination of genetics, hormones, and environment that causes people to be attracted to the same sex. And no, I do not think your fiance is genetically male. I do think, however, that you are uneducated in biology, and you are wading into waters unknown.

And if all people who were sexually abused turn gay, then 40% of women and 15% of men would be. As it is, the steady statistic of approximately 3% to 10% of people refutes your statement.

[Jalene in the wild]

DelusionalYou wrote:

What if we look at this from a different angle? People can be against dangerous activities without being bigots right? If I say that I am against cigarettes or alcohol does that make me a bigot against smokers and drinkers or perhaps a "closet smoker"?
Man-on-man/boy sodomy is a dangerous activity. HIV rates amongst homosexuals is insanely large. Here is a quote from the CDC:
"Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections"
So man-on-man/boy sodomy is extremely dangerous. Chick-fil-a is basically saying that they do not support the rampant rise of HIV.
Homosexuals have deadly sexual habits and there is nothing wrong with being against it. Then consider the thousands of boys who are molested by gay men each year. Many of these poor children are infected with HIV, go on to practice man-on-man sodomy and end up molesting boys too. The cycle never ends. Chick-fil-a should be commended for standing up against dangerous and bizarre sexual activities. Would they be catching so much grief if they had said that they are against beastilality or incest, close cousins of homosexuality?

Oh look its the delusional pedophile again.

[RalphB]

Judy Miller wrote:

<quoted text>But you gays have the government on your side with all your agents and guns and weapons.
Gays hate Christians and America.

That may or may not be true, but tell me, were you as much against having government on the side of the people who wrote discrimination into law?

[eJohn]

Judy Miller wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks Snickers for taking time to respond.
I'm still floored by how much pretend "christian" people absolutely HATE gay people with a white-hot hate.
They're supposed to be nice to people, I guess just to their face.
Pretend "christians" really HATE gay folks, don't they?
Wow!

There. I fixed it for you.

The is definitely flowing free here, sweetie. But it's not coming from the gays.

[eJohn]

You're TOO funny!!

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>
No, I don't see how the coin flips. I have never told a gay person that I wished them dead EVER, though I have been told that many, many times by gay people.

If you say so. There are idiots everywhere.

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>I do not hate gay people.

Yes, you do. Otherwise why else would you be working so hard to harm them?

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>I don't know any Christians who do.

I do. I've had many of them in family counseling sessions. They even hate their own children for being gay.

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>I just feel compelled to resist the changes that gays are attempting to make in society and politics.

What changes? How will they affect you? They won't.

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>Marriage is a man and a woman, and it has always been a man and a woman.

Read your Bible. Biblical marriage is CLEARLY between one man and as many wives and concubines as he can afford. Even today, marriage in most places is "one man/one woman AT A TIME, until one of them gets bored and wants a quickie divorce to go and find someone new." Why does your type always seem to forget that little tidbit when you're crapping your pants over the gays?

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>For the benefit of the fabric of society, I believe it should STAY a man and a woman.

How does society benefit from a subset of citizens being denied equal civil rights?

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>Judging by the turnout at Chik-Fil-A today, a lot of people feel that way.

Oh, yeah. HUNDREDS of people out of 330 millions Americans. Yeah. That's convincing, isn't it?

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>BTW, I don't consider the Westboro Baptist Church a real Christian church.

They do.

Snickers wrote:

<quoted text>I'll leave it to God to judge whether or not the individuals people are truly Christians.

Clearly you won't. You obviously believe your God to be so weak and helpless that he needs YOUR help to bash and persecute in his name. If he was such a wonderful and all-powerful being and he really does have a problem with gay people, why doesn't HE do something about the situation?