DOMA Section 3 is Now Dead

DOMA Section 3 is Now Dead

There are 11 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 29, 2013, titled DOMA Section 3 is Now Dead. In it, EDGE reports that:

With the Supreme Court's ruling in United States v. Windsor, we have ended DOMA's damaging federal discrimination against married same-sex couples and lifted up LGBT people and our nation as a whole.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Jun 30, 2013
And Section 2 will be dead before the end of the decade!

“Take Topix Back From Trolls”

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#2 Jun 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
And Section 2 will be dead before the end of the decade!
Sure hope so. Social Security is really screwed up. Death benefits are state of residence based so Gay spouses have no standing depending on their state law unless we do a sham state of residency. With online banking that shouldnt be a big issue. The other way is to get divorced after 9 years and the spouse is eligible regardless of state of residence when they turn old enough to retire.

That seems to be our only issue to date. Immigration should be no problem, that original 18 year old Commitment Ceremony certificate is going to be of great assistance. And it was signed by witnesses.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Jun 30, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure hope so. Social Security is really screwed up. Death benefits are state of residence based so Gay spouses have no standing depending on their state law unless we do a sham state of residency. With online banking that shouldnt be a big issue. The other way is to get divorced after 9 years and the spouse is eligible regardless of state of residence when they turn old enough to retire.
That seems to be our only issue to date. Immigration should be no problem, that original 18 year old Commitment Ceremony certificate is going to be of great assistance. And it was signed by witnesses.
That mess is what will ensure all marriages will be recognized nationwide sooner rather than later. Many couples are planning on marrying in another state and applying for federal benefits, then suing when they are denied. Being able to show concrete harm will speed the cases along and make it much more likely we win on equal protection grounds, as opposed to the theoretical harm up to now.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#4 Jun 30, 2013
From what I am hearing, there may be hundreds of these state of residence requirement landmines buried all through government programs. Most of them weren't even come up with us in mind, they've just now been made a problem. Some of its going to take only a change in policy to fix, but there are some that it will take Congress to repair. Any federal program that the state administers in any way and you live in a state which denies equality, stock up on aspirin, it could be rough for a while yet.

“Take Topix Back From Trolls”

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#5 Jun 30, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
From what I am hearing, there may be hundreds of these state of residence requirement landmines buried all through government programs. Most of them weren't even come up with us in mind, they've just now been made a problem. Some of its going to take only a change in policy to fix, but there are some that it will take Congress to repair. Any federal program that the state administers in any way and you live in a state which denies equality, stock up on aspirin, it could be rough for a while yet.
Obama stated this week he had begun the process of looking at all federal program requirements some time ago in preparation for all this. I'd tend to believe that and hope it quickly comes out in the wash.

Sometimes reality is a tough loaf to slice.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Jun 30, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
From what I am hearing, there may be hundreds of these state of residence requirement landmines buried all through government programs. Most of them weren't even come up with us in mind, they've just now been made a problem. Some of its going to take only a change in policy to fix, but there are some that it will take Congress to repair. Any federal program that the state administers in any way and you live in a state which denies equality, stock up on aspirin, it could be rough for a while yet.
Ya gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Five years max, and this is all over. There are so many lawsuits already filed or about to be filed, the courts are going to be VERY busy.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#7 Jul 1, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
Obama stated this week he had begun the process of looking at all federal program requirements some time ago in preparation for all this. I'd tend to believe that and hope it quickly comes out in the wash.
Sometimes reality is a tough loaf to slice.
It's the places where the state of residence requirements are written into the law that are going to be the biggest headache, those are going to take Congress to fix, if the Courts aren't forced to move on them first.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#8 Jul 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Ya gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Five years max, and this is all over. There are so many lawsuits already filed or about to be filed, the courts are going to be VERY busy.
They should have killed the amendments while they had the opportunity to do so, would have saved the Courts muy headaches. Most of these policies and laws weren't even written with punishing same sex couples in mind, just to make it easier for the states to administer federal programs, an idea now coming back to haunt us. I agree within five years it should all be over but the screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth, but for some couples it is going to be made a long and difficult five years.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Jul 1, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>They should have killed the amendments while they had the opportunity to do so, would have saved the Courts muy headaches. Most of these policies and laws weren't even written with punishing same sex couples in mind, just to make it easier for the states to administer federal programs, an idea now coming back to haunt us. I agree within five years it should all be over but the screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth, but for some couples it is going to be made a long and difficult five years.
But still better than receiving no federal benefits at all.

We'll be filing married status on our federal taxes next year, and force the IRS to reject it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 Jul 1, 2013
We're also applying for the increase in disability pay from the VA for having a spouse.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#11 Jul 1, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
But still better than receiving no federal benefits at all.
We'll be filing married status on our federal taxes next year, and force the IRS to reject it.
From what I am hearing, the IRS won't be much of a problem, because their policies are mostly based on the place of celebration and you stay married until someone tells them otherwise. It may even work to the benefit of some couples living in non-recognition states, the worse they screw you singly, the better the deduction for state taxes when you file jointly with the feds.

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