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Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decision on admission of homosexual members

There are 240 comments on the Catholic World News story from May 27, 2013, titled Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decision on admission of homosexual members. In it, Catholic World News reports that:

Bishop Robert Guglielmone of Charleston, the episcopal liaison of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to the National Catholic Committee on Scouting, has responded to the Boy Scouts of America's approval of a resolution stating that "No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or ... (more)

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SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#87 Jun 18, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Rick-
I guess I don't get your point here.
While self-identification as a homosexual (or bisexual) certainly may not be a prerequisite to voluntary participation in a homosexual act, so what?
I mean, other than maybe falling into the "Q" category, what's the point?
After reading some of Rick's posts I'm not sure he knows what he is trying to say.
A little confused himself I'd say.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#88 Jun 18, 2013
Dan wrote:
Rick-
I guess I don't get your point here.
While self-identification as a homosexual (or bisexual) certainly may not be a prerequisite to voluntary participation in a homosexual act, so what?
I mean, other than maybe falling into the "Q" category, what's the point?
I was responding to someone who is of the absolute certainty that ANYONE who would voluntarily engage in a "homosexual act" would therefore be by definition, "homosexual" in terms of their innate orientation, at least a little bit. My point was to disabuse that folly. Not all Swedish folk-dancers are Swedish.

There have been times and places throughout human history where engaging in homosexual behavior wasn't limited to those so oriented, as long as they could get away with it. Our straight brothers (mostly)and sisters (in rarer instances) have on long occasions made indulging in homosexual acts THEIR social/religious/traditional/c ivic requirement. Actual homosexuals are only here for their ride, usually told to sit down, shut up and hang on while they drive. They insist they know what they are doing.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#89 Jun 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
... not even bisexuality is required to voluntarily participate in homosexual acts.
In reality, a bi-sexual would have to voluntarily participate in BOTH hetero- and homosexual acts, otherwise he's a "G", not a "B", according to your own gay alphabet.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#90 Jun 19, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
In reality, a bi-sexual would have to voluntarily participate in BOTH hetero- and homosexual acts, otherwise he's a "G", not a "B", according to your own gay alphabet.
Dear, you are still confusing behavior and orientation. Even in regards to bisexuality, NOT the same thing. Since one does not have to be remotely homosexual to voluntarily engage in only homosexual acts nor remotely heterosexual to voluntarily engage in only heterosexual acts, one does not have to be remotely bisexual to behave in that way.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#91 Jun 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, you are still confusing behavior and orientation. Even in regards to bisexuality, NOT the same thing. Since one does not have to be remotely homosexual to voluntarily engage in only homosexual acts nor remotely heterosexual to voluntarily engage in only heterosexual acts, one does not have to be remotely bisexual to behave in that way.
Hi Rick-

You mean engaging in the acts incidentally or regularly?

If I'm a hetero. and perform a homo. act every now and then, that's one thing, but if I do it all the time, it doesn't matter what I call myself or think I am-I'm homosexual or bisexual at the least.

Agree?
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#92 Jun 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
"queer adjective \&#712;kwir\
Definition of QUEER
1a : worthless, counterfeit b : questionable, suspicious
2a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric, unconventional (2): mildly insane : touched c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed"

Study this, there will be a test.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#93 Jun 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, you are still confusing behavior and orientation. Even in regards to bisexuality, NOT the same thing. Since one does not have to be remotely homosexual to voluntarily engage in only homosexual acts nor remotely heterosexual to voluntarily engage in only heterosexual acts, one does not have to be remotely bisexual to behave in that way.
You are exactly right, Rick.

Case in point, the Samoan practice of semen-eating.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#94 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
Hi Rick-
You mean engaging in the acts incidentally or regularly?
If I'm a hetero. and perform a homo. act every now and then, that's one thing, but if I do it all the time, it doesn't matter what I call myself or think I am-I'm homosexual or bisexual at the least.
Agree?
While it would probably be better for everyone involved if it were, behavior and orientation never have to be congruent. For various reasons, there have been homosexuals who only engaged in heterosexual acts, heterosexuals who only engaged in homosexual ones and bisexuals who never experience a sexual act with a second sex during their lives.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#95 Jun 19, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
In reality, a bi-sexual would have to voluntarily participate in BOTH hetero- and homosexual acts, otherwise he's a "G", not a "B", according to your own gay alphabet.
It must really be hard to be stuck in your linear mind.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#96 Jun 19, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
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It must really be hard to be stuck in your linear mind.
Unlike your twisted thoughts, straight thinking comes naturally.
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear, you are still confusing behavior and orientation ...
... as if there was no connection between them.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#97 Jun 19, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike your twisted thoughts, straight thinking comes naturally.
<quoted text>
... as if there was no connection between them.
There does not have to be ANY connection, at all.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#98 Jun 20, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
There does not have to be ANY connection, at all.
"For as he thinks within himself, so he is" (Proverbs 23:7).
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#99 Jun 20, 2013
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
There does not have to be ANY connection, at all.
We can all see now UnRev in your world there are seldom any connections to anything.
If it feels good just do it right?
You are pitiful.
SHADOW

Bulverde, TX

#100 Jun 20, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
<quoted text>It must really be hard to be stuck in your linear mind.
At least Joe has a working mind unlike a perverted eaten away excuse for a mind.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#101 Jun 21, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... as if there was no connection between them.
Usually there is and it's probably a lot more fun for all involved if orientation and behavior are acting congruently, but it ain't a requirement.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#102 Jun 21, 2013
The greatest reward for doing is the opportunity to do more.
(Jonas Salk)

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#103 Jun 21, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Usually there is and it's probably a lot more fun for all involved if orientation and behavior are acting congruently, but it ain't a requirement.
As I posted above, it's a biblical precept (Proverbs 23:7) proven by experience.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#104 Jun 21, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
As I posted above, it's a biblical precept (Proverbs 23:7) proven by experience.
Misuse of scripture.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#105 Jun 21, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
As I posted above, it's a biblical precept (Proverbs 23:7) proven by experience.
Let's take a look at that precept shall we?

"For as he thinks within himself, so he is"

If one thinks within him or herself that they have no sexual attraction whatsoever for the gender of the person they are having sex with, that would mean they are not their behavior. Heterosexuals engaging voluntarily in homosexual acts are not homosexual, or even bisexual.
Michael

Canada

#106 Jun 21, 2013
Catholic clergy themselves have a higher rate of homosexuality than does the general population.

http://www.actupny.org/YELL/catholicpriests.h...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_an...

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