Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decisi...

Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decision on admission of homosexual members

There are 240 comments on the Catholic World News story from May 27, 2013, titled Bishop responds to Boy Scouts' decision on admission of homosexual members. In it, Catholic World News reports that:

Bishop Robert Guglielmone of Charleston, the episcopal liaison of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to the National Catholic Committee on Scouting, has responded to the Boy Scouts of America's approval of a resolution stating that "No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or ... (more)

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Listen to the Word

Kingman, AZ

#1 May 28, 2013
TEC says that the inclination to homosexuality is not sinful (which must by necessity means it is holy and righteous, for the Bible knows no middle ground)and that same sex attraction is not immoral (which must be necessity means it is moral or recognizing the intentional litotes, is very, very moral). Yet the Bible says, "Every inclination of the thoughts of man's heart was only evil all the time" and "every inclination of men's heart is evil from childhood." How little TEC understands the nature of sin and therefore how little TEC understands the gospel of forgiveness through faith in Jesus. Lacking an understanding of what is truly important, it has nothing better to do than promote political correctness and use the secular courts to legally steal the property and money of those congregations with enough biblical knowledge to see the total and absolute corruptness of TEC's leadership and doctrine.

Since: Aug 09

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#2 May 28, 2013
Listen to the Word wrote:
TEC says that the inclination to homosexuality is not sinful (which must by necessity means it is holy and righteous, for the Bible knows no middle ground)and that same sex attraction is not immoral (which must be necessity means it is moral or recognizing the intentional litotes, is very, very moral). Yet the Bible says, "Every inclination of the thoughts of man's heart was only evil all the time" and "every inclination of men's heart is evil from childhood." How little TEC understands the nature of sin and therefore how little TEC understands the gospel of forgiveness through faith in Jesus. Lacking an understanding of what is truly important, it has nothing better to do than promote political correctness and use the secular courts to legally steal the property and money of those congregations with enough biblical knowledge to see the total and absolute corruptness of TEC's leadership and doctrine.
Oh, BALONEY!

Your attitude professed in the above statement reveals you, the "One Who Does Not Listen," to be an peculiarly rabid, institutionalized bigot and hypocrite.

Besides, Bishop B. G. is not an Episcopalian Bishop. He is a Roman Catholic Bishop.

As a fully heterosexual male and supporter and former member of the BSA, I deeply sympathize with the difficulty of their organization's wrestling and resolve with these issues. But, I am also glad that they have taken this step in the right direction.

Their choice is an essential manifestation of personal integrity, the backbone of the rigor of the BSA, that we do NOT teach or condone such hypocrisy and that we endeavor to weed out such bigotry.

This is an excellent advancement. I welcome the acknowledgment of the Roman Catholic Bishop.

Light will prevail.

Rev. Ken

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#3 May 28, 2013
RevKen wrote:
As a fully heterosexual male and supporter and former member of the BSA, I deeply sympathize with the difficulty of their organization's wrestling and resolve with these issues. But, I am also glad that they have taken this step in the right direction ...
... that direction being the "inclusion" of adult homosexual Scout leaders?

If that's where BSA is heading, it will eventually lose its "fully heterosexual male" Scout Masters who won't want to be held accountable for the inapropriate actions of their gay assistants.

Since: Aug 09

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#4 May 28, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... that direction being the "inclusion" of adult homosexual Scout leaders?
If that's where BSA is heading, it will eventually lose its "fully heterosexual male" Scout Masters who won't want to be held accountable for the inapropriate actions of their gay assistants.
There you go again, Joe, trying to confuse pedophilism with homosexuality.

Sorry, bud, not the same thing.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#5 May 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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There you go again, Joe, trying to confuse pedophilism with homosexuality ...
What's so confusing about a homosexual pedophile who joins BSA because he wants to be near children?
Concerned Expat

London, UK

#6 May 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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There you go again, Joe, trying to confuse pedophilism with homosexuality.
Sorry, bud, not the same thing.

According to your thinking, a pedophile Scout leader who homosexually rapes a boy scout, is not a homosexual.

Homosexual pedophilia is an incontravertible fact of life, no matter how much you claim it isn't.
Quest

Dickerson, MD

#7 May 29, 2013
Concerned Expat wrote:
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According to your thinking, a pedophile Scout leader ......a boy scout, is not a homosexual.
......
A pedophile is attracted to a child under the age of puberty. And, yes, most identify as straight. It makes sense, you know. They are going for the more "female-like" appearance, and someone who is too weak to protect themselves.

It has nothing really to do with gay or straight men, who are attracted to people who have already gone through puberty.

Since: Aug 09

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#8 May 29, 2013
Concerned Expat wrote:
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According to your thinking, a pedophile Scout leader who homosexually rapes a boy scout, is not a homosexual.
Homosexual pedophilia is an incontravertible fact of life, no matter how much you claim it isn't.
Get your facts straight.

A pedophile is not defined as a homosexual.

Rev. Ken

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#9 May 29, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... that direction being the "inclusion" of adult homosexual Scout leaders?
If that's where BSA is heading, it will eventually lose its "fully heterosexual male" Scout Masters who won't want to be held accountable for the inapropriate actions of their gay assistants.
You do realize that the ban on "gay" Scout leaders did not do a whole heck of a lot to prevent the many thousands of inappropriate actions by "straight" Scout leaders and in a way, aided and abetted them, don't you? Because the Scouts were out to cull "gays" from their midst, while telling the boys to trust their leaders, they're "straight". A sure fire way of accumulating lots of boys being victimized by men, pretending that heterosexuals wouldn't do that. We are talking about young men, who happen to be gay, who also grew up in scouting and want to give back to the program and the gay parents of kids involved in the program, not serial child molesters or pedophiles.
Concerned Expat

London, UK

#11 May 29, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Get your facts straight.
A pedophile is not defined as a homosexual.
Rev. Ken

Split hairs and have it your own way. Both are perverts, and neither is of any benefit to society.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#12 May 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
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You do realize that the ban on "gay" Scout leaders did not do a whole heck of a lot to prevent the many thousands of inappropriate actions by "straight" Scout leaders ...
Rick, you do realize that "straight" scout leaders who have sex with scouts are actually bi-sexual, the "B" in GLBT.

According to news reports, BSA actually kept a secret list of these so-called "straight" scout leaders so as to avoid your claimed "thousands" of inapropriate actions.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#13 May 29, 2013
Pepper wrote:
Straight scout leaders are not the problem.
Congratulations, with that malinformed pronouncement of omniscience, you endanger the well being of the boys you claim to want to protect and become nothing more than a useful idiot for the many, many, many otherwise completely heterosexual men that can and do sexually abuse young boys.
Pepper wrote:
It's the closet Queers that infiltrate the scouts PRETENDING to be straight that's the problem. They are turned on by young boys. They sneak in and wait until the time is right. Then they pounce.
There's more than three decades worth of scientific research which proves you to be a dangerously malinformed fool, who really can't even fake having a clue as to actually knowing what in the hell you are talking about. Most folk would be ashamed at expressing in such a dangerously and maliciously informed opinion, but not you. You would rather allow boys to be sexually abused than admit how flocking wrong you are. You puppy are one sad, sick f*ck.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#14 May 29, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Rick, you do realize that "straight" scout leaders who have sex with scouts are actually bi-sexual, the "B" in GLBT.
Also inaccurate. There's more than three decades of research on the subject and the vast majority of men who sexually abuse boys, identify as heterosexual and claim a sexual history with adults which backs up that claim. Most such acts aren't committed out of any sort of attraction to the victim other than their availability. These were acts committed by men you wouldn't want around little girls either. They were going to do what they were going to do with whoever was available and kids are less likely to fight back.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
According to news reports, BSA actually kept a secret list of these so-called "straight" scout leaders so as to avoid your claimed "thousands" of inapropriate actions.
The Boy Scout's infamous "pervert files" are the thousands of inappropriate acts that I was referring to. They did everything they could to make sure that openly gay and possibly closeted gay weren't allowed in and were unceremoniously expelled if someone let them in and yet, here's a list that runs into the thousands of really bad things that allegedly happened. That's what happens when you aren't keeping an eye on your fellow heterosexuals under the truly dangerous notion that straight men would never go there.
SLIF

Hamilton, Canada

#15 May 29, 2013
He's(the bishop) concerned because he's the diddler. Think about it.He wants you all straight,and is against birth control,and abortion.And doesn't have any children himself.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#19 May 29, 2013
Pepper wrote:
That's what most people say about you freaks.
Sweetie, if that was your idea of a brilliant comeback, you should have kept your fingers off the keyboard. You are done.

Since: Jun 07

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#20 May 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, if that was your idea of a brilliant comeback, you should have kept your fingers off the keyboard. You are done.
yes.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#22 May 29, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
... Most such acts aren't committed out of any sort of attraction to the victim other than their availability. These were acts committed by men you wouldn't want around little girls either ...
... which is why they should't be in GSA either, but BSA isn't a prison, or a clositer where only one sex is available.
Rick in Kansas wrote:
... That's what happens when you aren't keeping an eye on your fellow heterosexuals under the truly dangerous notion that straight men would never go there.
GBLTs go where straight men fear to tread, but again, in the English language, heterosexuals who engage in homosexual activity aren't "straight".

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#23 May 29, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... which is why they should't be in GSA either, but BSA isn't a prison, or a clositer where only one sex is available.
I hope you have some idea what you are babbling about, I don't.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
GBLTs go where straight men fear to tread, but again, in the English language, heterosexuals who engage in homosexual activity aren't "straight".
Despite what it does to the English language, science has long known that those who they refer to as "homosexual pedophiles" can be completely heterosexual in regards to their adult sexual orientation. Your pathetic little word game only makes you a useful idiot foe men who would molest boys, they like it when they have the clueless looking for the gay.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#24 May 30, 2013
Concerned Expat wrote:
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Split hairs and have it your own way. Both are perverts, and neither is of any benefit to society.
LOL!!!.... See how you are?!

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#25 May 30, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Despite what it does to the English language, science has long known that those who they refer to as "homosexual pedophiles" can be completely heterosexual in regards to their adult sexual orientation. Your pathetic little word game ...
I'm not the one who's playing word games here.

In English, even in your own gay parlance, a so-called heterosexual who performs homosexual acts is a bisexual, the "B" in GLBT.

Gays like you "can't have it both ways," but B's certainly do.

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