Wisconsin Gov. Discusses Marriage Equality

Nov 26, 2013 Full story: EDGE 30

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker often avoids discussing marriage equality, but the Republican opened up about the topic to Bloomberg TV's Al Hunt last weekend.

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#1 Nov 26, 2013
Right Scotchy.

Don't be mean to 'em. Just don't let them be equal.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#2 Nov 27, 2013
Gee, is somebody setting himself up to run in the Iowa primary?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Nov 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
Gee, is somebody setting himself up to run in the Iowa primary?
If that's what it takes to get him out of the Gov's mansion in Wisconsin, more power to him!

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#4 Nov 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If that's what it takes to get him out of the Gov's mansion in Wisconsin, more power to him!
Would he have to resign to run? I don't for a moment think he would win.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#5 Nov 27, 2013
Let him run for president. The media, and his own hubris, will kill him. The men isn't qualified to be a dog catcher. Sarah Palin has a better chance getting into the White House.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Nov 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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Would he have to resign to run? I don't for a moment think he would win.
Not sure, but assuming he wins reelection in '14, he's be a lame duck Gov anyways, so he might just choose to resign to be able to focus solely on a presidential run.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#7 Nov 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Not sure, but assuming he wins reelection in '14, he's be a lame duck Gov anyways, so he might just choose to resign to be able to focus solely on a presidential run.
I take it from this post that Wis. has term limits. We have that in Missouri, also. I was never convinced that term limits were a good idea, and from the shenanigans that go on in our state capital I am now sure of it. Of course being a state with no campaign finance laws doesn't help either. Now we have people that know they can't serve more than a specific number of years, and they are grabbing at every dollar floating through the state. At least the old way they weren't so obvious about being crooked. Now it is so blatant it isn't funny.

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Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#8 Nov 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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I take it from this post that Wis. has term limits. We have that in Missouri, also. I was never convinced that term limits were a good idea, and from the shenanigans that go on in our state capital I am now sure of it. Of course being a state with no campaign finance laws doesn't help either. Now we have people that know they can't serve more than a specific number of years, and they are grabbing at every dollar floating through the state. At least the old way they weren't so obvious about being crooked. Now it is so blatant it isn't funny.
It's not term limits. It's the cultural environment. Big contributors now abound, wanting to harness the power of government to do their bidding. Since Citizen's United, they can spend unlimited amounts of money anonymously. Big contributors no longer focus on their own states.

Senatorships used to be valuable, although there was some amount of timidity about interfering in other states' elections. No more. Even your local school board can attract out-of-state financing.(Since the budget of a typical candidate is somewhere between on tank of gas and a few hundred dollars, and since few people can name the members of their local school board, it takes very little to promote your puppets.

Is it any wonder that candidates want a piece of the money sloshing back and forth in political races? For one thing, if they don't reach for it, they will be opposed for someone else who did get it. For another, campaign finance laws that prevent candidates from enriching themselves from campaign donations have leaks as wide and as well-travelled as the Panama Canal.(Simple idea: Search the world for the best campaign manager, and find that he or she already lives right under your own roof! Campaign managers are quite well-paid. Also, when you retire from office, you can roll the money into a PAC controlled by--guess who--YOU!)

Then there are the rich jobs waiting for people after their couple of years in office. For instance, take Jim DeMint's million dollar salary at Heritage Foundation. These financially rewarding exits may be more effective than term limits. Some politicians don't even serve out a full term before money lures them away from office.

Stronger sunlight is the only hope for disinfecting our government.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#10 Nov 27, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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It's not term limits. It's the cultural environment. Big contributors now abound, wanting to harness the power of government to do their bidding. Since Citizen's United, they can spend unlimited amounts of money anonymously. Big contributors no longer focus on their own states.
Senatorships used to be valuable, although there was some amount of timidity about interfering in other states' elections. No more. Even your local school board can attract out-of-state financing.(Since the budget of a typical candidate is somewhere between on tank of gas and a few hundred dollars, and since few people can name the members of their local school board, it takes very little to promote your puppets.
Is it any wonder that candidates want a piece of the money sloshing back and forth in political races? For one thing, if they don't reach for it, they will be opposed for someone else who did get it. For another, campaign finance laws that prevent candidates from enriching themselves from campaign donations have leaks as wide and as well-travelled as the Panama Canal.(Simple idea: Search the world for the best campaign manager, and find that he or she already lives right under your own roof! Campaign managers are quite well-paid. Also, when you retire from office, you can roll the money into a PAC controlled by--guess who--YOU!)
Then there are the rich jobs waiting for people after their couple of years in office. For instance, take Jim DeMint's million dollar salary at Heritage Foundation. These financially rewarding exits may be more effective than term limits. Some politicians don't even serve out a full term before money lures them away from office.
Stronger sunlight is the only hope for disinfecting our government.
Last sentence......true, but an interested electorate would be even more helpful.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#11 Nov 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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Last sentence......true, but an interested electorate would be even more helpful.
Even for those interested, government operations are all but inscrutable. And the politicians want to keep it that way.

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#12 Nov 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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Would he have to resign to run? I don't for a moment think he would win.
He could chop up the field, though. On the other hand, he might be able to bring his State's like-mindeds to the table.

2014 is going to be ugly.

2016 is going to be HIDEOUS.

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#13 Nov 27, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Even for those interested, government operations are all but inscrutable. And the politicians want to keep it that way.
Actually, they're pretty inscrutable to most politicians.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#14 Nov 27, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Actually, they're pretty inscrutable to most politicians.
It leaves legislators just as dependent as the voters upon lobbying organizations to tell them what to do. And they like it that way.

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#15 Nov 27, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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It leaves legislators just as dependent as the voters upon lobbying organizations to tell them what to do. And they like it that way.
Explains so much, doesn't it?

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#16 Nov 29, 2013
Hopefully Walker will soon be as irrelevant to Wisconsin as he is to the rest of the world. Just another well-funded crook/moron who ought to be in prison.

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#17 Nov 29, 2013
Tre H wrote:
Hopefully Walker will soon be as irrelevant to Wisconsin as he is to the rest of the world. Just another well-funded crook/moron who ought to be in prison.
I think that he is bidding for higher office than that which he now holds.

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#18 Nov 29, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I think that he is bidding for higher office than that which he now holds.
I'm aware that he has aspirations that match his ego, but... never gonna happen.

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#19 Dec 7, 2013
Tre H wrote:
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I'm aware that he has aspirations that match his ego, but... never gonna happen.
I think you're right. But I am more hopeful than confident. He did win a recall, you know.

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Appleton WI

#20 Dec 10, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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I think you're right. But I am more hopeful than confident. He did win a recall, you know.
Yes, I live here. More people vote in presidential elections than gubernatorial elections, especially ones held at odd times. The majority of Wisconsinites voted for Obama twice. I think it's reasonable to assume most of THOSE voters would not vote FOR Walker... ever.

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#21 Dec 10, 2013
Tre H wrote:
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Yes, I live here. More people vote in presidential elections than gubernatorial elections, especially ones held at odd times. The majority of Wisconsinites voted for Obama twice. I think it's reasonable to assume most of THOSE voters would not vote FOR Walker... ever.
Well then, SOMEBODY in the WDP sure dropped the ball.

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