Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14715 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#13264 Jul 14, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
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Yahudi = Jews. Even Jews settled in Indai for nore than a millenia weree called Yahuds. Why try to be too clever by half. Jews existed and the Arabs of that region were mostly Jews at one time.
The descendants of the ancient Yehudi are the Palestinian Arabs, not the white Ashkenazi Jews who invaded Palestine in the 1940's

90% of the world's "Jews" are white, NON-SEMITIC people descended from Eastern Europeans and Russians. These "Jews" are not and never were the blood line descendants of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob. they are not and never were Yehudi, and Palestine is not and never was their ancestral homeland.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#13265 Jul 14, 2013
Jews are mentioned as Jews several times thought the NT.

There is not ones room ever of an Arab in the bible.

F@cking retard.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>There were no "Jews" during Biblical times (1800 BC to 3 AD). There were Arab Israelites, i.e. the "SEED" of Abraham aka blood descendants, but no "Jews". There were Arab Judeans, Arab Samaritans, and Arab Galileans, but no "Jews". There were Arab Essenes, Arab Pharisees, Arab Sadducees, Arab Samaritans, and assorted Arab pagans, but no religion called "Judaism" and no one called "Jews" existed in the land of Canaan aka Palestine, during Biblical times, bubba. The word "Jew" wasn't even invented until circa 1200 AD.

Get it?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#13266 Jul 14, 2013
You are a racist bigot who gets off on Muslims blowing up Jewish children.

And you know it.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>I am on the path, both seeker and finder, but I don't believe or claim I've "arrived" at the ultimate reality....yet.

All those historical persons I cited and thousands more received revelations of knowledge that came from a source other than a human mind. Each has contributed ideas and concepts, i.e. new reality paradigms, which has helped other people evolve in their consciousness of reality. Ramanujan is a well known example. He had virtually no education and is described as an autodidact. Ramanujan said that his knowledge of mathematics was divine, revealed to him in dreams by the goddess Namagiri. Ramanujan's revelations laid the base foundation of quantum theory and helped us theorize the existence of the Higgs boson particle. Aristotle wrote about what we call the Higgs field over two thousand years ago. Jung's theories on synchronicity and the collective consciousness as well as Whitehead's theory of consciousness have been part of Eastern spiritual teachings for at least 10,000 years.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#13267 Jul 15, 2013
[QUOTE who="Rev. Alan"]

There is no such thing as a real and true, Bible believing, practicing Christian. Because all of them refuse to do what Jesus instructs them to do. It is amazing to watch the lies and deceptive dishonesty the so called Christian will present to get out of doing the following:

•(a) "...none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has" (Luke 14:33);

•(b) "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" (Matt. 19:21);

•(c) "Sell your possessions and give alms" (Luke 12:33);

•(d) "But give what is in your cups and plates to the poor, and everything will be clean for you" (Luke 11:41);

•(e) "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt,.... But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.... for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" (Matt. 6:19-21);

•(f) "How hardly shall they that have riches enter to the kingdom of God" (Mark 10:23);

•(g) "Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Matt. 19:23-24);

•(h) A certain ruler told Jesus that he had obeyed all the commandments from his youth up. But, Jesus said, "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me" (Luke 18:22, Mark 10:21),

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Ans.

01. I appreciate what you wrote Reverend Alan and yes, what you wrote is mostly true.

02. But I want to ask you one question, please see these statements of Jesus, can you see people at large being able to follow it?

03. Either they are extreme views or taken out of context, may be these goals are for admonishing people and not basic religious teachings.

04. In Islam we find every thing in moderation, there is no general condemnation of wealth and rich people. These are bounties from our Merciful Creator and they should be used in moderation and people should give some of it in charity.

05. Islamic teachings are very close to basic human nature, while Judaism and Christianity are at other extremes.

06. Perhaps that could be reason that there are much more practicing Muslims in the world than practicing Christians, Jews, Hindus or people of other faith, joined together.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#13268 Jul 15, 2013
WS wrote:
01. I don't care if MUQ is from Bahrain, Jubail, Saudi Arabia or Powhatan, VA... the facts I mentioned about the oppressive Saudi Arabian theocracy are true.

02. The Mutaween are religious police who enforce the Islamic code of law known as Sharia in Saudi Arabia. Mutaween have far-reaching authority over citizens and visitors in Saudi Arabia.

03. This Islamofascist law enforcement agency is part of a larger government organization called the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice. Members of the Mutaween patrol the streets of Saudi Arabia, often with an official police escort, looking for violations of Islamic law.

04. They have the authority to arrest people for violations, and they can order floggings, imprisonment, and public humiliation as punishments.
These Saudi Arabian police can confiscate materials which they think are inappropriate, ranging from Western movies to alcohol, or the Bible.
Ans.

01. Why should you care, if I am from India, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or any nation? But I assure you, I did not move out of KSA during past several months!!

02. You are certainly exaggerating the "role of Mutawwa" in Saudi Society.

They have power of law to enforce and shut down any thing that is against Clear Islamic teachings.

In every Islamic country, there should be people to see that basic Islamic guidelines are not violated openly.

This is what separates Islamic society from a Non Islamic society.

03. But it does not only means torture and beating and what you said. Most of it is also in educating people, and that is done thru five daily prayers and Friday sermons and other lectures.

04. Islam means to surrender and this concept is alien to most western people. They have no freedom in economic matters and political matters, so their Govt. have given them free reign in spiritual and religious matters..

It seems we are poles apart.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#13269 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on the path, both seeker and finder, but I don't believe or claim I've "arrived" at the ultimate reality....yet.
All those historical persons I cited and thousands more received revelations of knowledge that came from a source other than a human mind. Each has contributed ideas and concepts, i.e. new reality paradigms, which has helped other people evolve in their consciousness of reality. Ramanujan is a well known example. He had virtually no education and is described as an autodidact. Ramanujan said that his knowledge of mathematics was divine, revealed to him in dreams by the goddess Namagiri. Ramanujan's revelations laid the base foundation of quantum theory and helped us theorize the existence of the Higgs boson particle. Aristotle wrote about what we call the Higgs field over two thousand years ago. Jung's theories on synchronicity and the collective consciousness as well as Whitehead's theory of consciousness have been part of Eastern spiritual teachings for at least 10,000 years.
Why do you refuse to stand up for the rights of little girls not to be abused, raped and murdered by your religion?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#13270 Jul 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Why should you care, if I am from India, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or any nation? But I assure you, I did not move out of KSA during past several months!!
02. You are certainly exaggerating the "role of Mutawwa" in Saudi Society.
They have power of law to enforce and shut down any thing that is against Clear Islamic teachings.
In every Islamic country, there should be people to see that basic Islamic guidelines are not violated openly.
This is what separates Islamic society from a Non Islamic society.
03. But it does not only means torture and beating and what you said. Most of it is also in educating people, and that is done thru five daily prayers and Friday sermons and other lectures.
04. Islam means to surrender and this concept is alien to most western people. They have no freedom in economic matters and political matters, so their Govt. have given them free reign in spiritual and religious matters..
It seems we are poles apart.
Why do you refuse to stand up for the rights of little girls not to be abused, raped and murdered by your religion?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13271 Jul 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
04. In Islam we find every thing in moderation, there is no general condemnation of wealth and rich people. These are bounties from our Merciful Creator and they should be used in moderation and people should give some of it in charity.
The obsene wealth of saudi royals and gulf state despots should be a source of shame. religion is a tool used by your evil rulers to keep the population docile and compliant.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#13272 Jul 15, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
The obsene wealth of saudi royals and gulf state despots should be a source of shame. religion is a tool used by your evil rulers to keep the population docile and compliant.
Why are you jealous of their wealth? What about Billions held by your Bill Gates, Warrens, Fords and other Billionaires?

Why do not not die on envy and jealousy on their wealth?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13273 Jul 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you jealous of their wealth? What about Billions held by your Bill Gates, Warrens, Fords and other Billionaires?
Why do not not die on envy and jealousy on their wealth?
Bill and Melinda Gates have give $28 billion to charity. They plan to give 95% of their wealth to charity. Can the same be said of the Saudi Royals?
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13274 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
The descendants of the ancient Yehudi are the Palestinian Arabs, not the white Ashkenazi Jews who invaded Palestine in the 1940's
90% of the world's "Jews" are white, NON-SEMITIC people descended from Eastern Europeans and Russians. These "Jews" are not and never were the blood line descendants of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob. they are not and never were Yehudi, and Palestine is not and never was their ancestral homeland.
Now you are being a racist. Admittedly, Jews wanderings will change them as some admixture always occurs and the weather may induce some mutations. Did you not hear of Nigerian parents in London had a white baby and the DNA proved that the bay's father was her dad- a black Nigerian!

Okay, how would you call white muslim Syrians that I have met and you can see them on TV these days?
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13275 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
The descendants of the ancient Yehudi are the Palestinian Arabs, not the white Ashkenazi Jews who invaded Palestine in the 1940's
90% of the world's "Jews" are white, NON-SEMITIC people descended from Eastern Europeans and Russians. These "Jews" are not and never were the blood line descendants of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob. they are not and never were Yehudi, and Palestine is not and never was their ancestral homeland.
Invaded in 1940s? Did you not read the history? Jews had been settling there for some decades (especially after the Balfout Declaration post WW1) and post-Nazi and post WW2, many from Europe joined the pioneers there.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13276 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on the path, both seeker and finder, but I don't believe or claim I've "arrived" at the ultimate reality....yet.
All those historical persons I cited and thousands more received revelations of knowledge that came from a source other than a human mind. Each has contributed ideas and concepts, i.e. new reality paradigms, which has helped other people evolve in their consciousness of reality. Ramanujan is a well known example. He had virtually no education and is described as an autodidact. Ramanujan said that his knowledge of mathematics was divine, revealed to him in dreams by the goddess Namagiri. Ramanujan's revelations laid the base foundation of quantum theory and helped us theorize the existence of the Higgs boson particle. Aristotle wrote about what we call the Higgs field over two thousand years ago. Jung's theories on synchronicity and the collective consciousness as well as Whitehead's theory of consciousness have been part of Eastern spiritual teachings for at least 10,000 years.
Well, Bubba, sounds like what we have here is another religion. You got your Heaven (higher consciousness), your Hell (remaining a "Sleep Walker"), your High Priests (Whitehead and the 'historical persons' you cited). You toss in some dogma ('spiritual teachings of the last 10,000 years), garnish with some jargon (Quantum Mechanics, "synchronicity"), blend in a little divine ("knowledge that came from a source other than a human mind"), season lightly with Truth (we are 'seekers') and VOILA!!! A Religion. You are correct in one thing ... there's nothing new under the sun.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#13277 Jul 15, 2013
Zit is a racist and nothing more.
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>Now you are being a racist. Admittedly, Jews wanderings will change them as some admixture always occurs and the weather may induce some mutations. Did you not hear of Nigerian parents in London had a white baby and the DNA proved that the bay's father was her dad- a black Nigerian!

Okay, how would you call white muslim Syrians that I have met and you can see them on TV these days?
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13278 Jul 15, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. I appreciate what you wrote Reverend Alan and yes, what you wrote is mostly true.
02. But I want to ask you one question, please see these statements of Jesus, can you see people at large being able to follow it?
03. Either they are extreme views or taken out of context, may be these goals are for admonishing people and not basic religious teachings.
04. In Islam we find every thing in moderation, there is no general condemnation of wealth and rich people. These are bounties from our Merciful Creator and they should be used in moderation and people should give some of it in charity.
05. Islamic teachings are very close to basic human nature, while Judaism and Christianity are at other extremes.
06. Perhaps that could be reason that there are much more practicing Muslims in the world than practicing Christians, Jews, Hindus or people of other faith, joined together.
How come "very close to human nature" Islamic teachings are failing in muslim majority nations? How come the Caliphate was the last big power to reject slavery? Was it not you who told us on the other forum that most muslims these days are not true muslims? OH! MUQ!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#13280 Jul 15, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Fascinating story! I am in awe of prodigy. To see something so clearly, so early in life. Pity he died so young. Not much in the article about his religion, Hindu I presume. Clearly not an overriding obsession of his, unlike our godbot Topix posters.
From the stories I have heard, Ramanujan attributed his insights to revelations from Shiva. Whether those stories are correct or not, I do not know.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13281 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
The descendants of the ancient Yehudi are the Palestinian Arabs, not the white Ashkenazi Jews who invaded Palestine in the 1940's
90% of the world's "Jews" are white, NON-SEMITIC people descended from Eastern Europeans and Russians. These "Jews" are not and never were the blood line descendants of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob. they are not and never were Yehudi, and Palestine is not and never was their ancestral homeland.
Science has us all pegged genetically ... right back to the Primordial Ooze. Bloodlines and who has a 'birthright' to this or that piece of ground is kind of silly in this day and age. All our wonderful ancestors wandered out of Olduvai Gorge, probably worshiping the Sun, Moon and each other's genitals. Munching hallucinogenic herbs and spices at every camp meeting, they populated the Universe with imaginary ghosts and goblins 'bots worship to this day. Why don't you take a big bite of Reality and become part of the solution rather than a part of the problem.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13282 Jul 15, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
From the stories I have heard, Ramanujan attributed his insights to revelations from Shiva. Whether those stories are correct or not, I do not know.
I would imagine the truly gifted among us wonder 'how did this happen' and 'why did this happen to me'. Most are born into societies where being 'different' was none too healthy. Claiming your talents derive from the local deity(s) is good thinking!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#13283 Jul 15, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.......of ANY time since the dawn of civilization, bubba.
And he was a devout "godbot" as well.
Leonard Euler was also one of the most creative mathematicians ever. Ramanujan was a bit less broad in his creativity. But then, Euler was working much earlier. I'd say it is difficult to judge which was more creative, especially since Ramanujan died so young and Euler went blind, but kept up his publication. Also, Euler supplied proofs and Ramanujan did not.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#13284 Jul 15, 2013
Complete horsesht that Muslims are brainwashed to believe. Ancient Arabs at the time of the Torah and the gospels were being penned were pagan people. The Arab vigorously believed in several gods the head god Allah being the moon god along with his goddess daughters the stars. They worshipped these gods and even had the symbol of the crescent moon and stars showing their moon god and his goddess daughters. Muslims use the exact same symbol today and even the Quran mentions Allah and his 2 goddess daughters. They worship all three of these gods and goddesses to this day and Muq and Zit know it.

Yet know that we know the factual history of the Arabs they wish to claim that all along the ancient Jews really weren't Jews and didn't follow the Torah! Hahaha! The fact that many darker skinned Jews eventually mixed with whiter skinned Romans some having lighter skinned offspring over the centuries disqualifies them as Jews.

Seriously this is what they believe! Lol!
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>The Hebrew version (HNV) of that scripture reads "Yehudim", not "Jew":

"Be it known to the king, that the Yehudim who came up from you are come to us to Yerushalayim; they are building the rebellious and the bad city, and have finished the walls, and repaired the foundations.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm...

The word "Jew" was invented by the French circa 1200 AD. The King James English translation of the Bible wasn't written until 1611. The KJV translated the word Yehudim" as "Jew" as have most English versions of the Bible since, but the two words are not interchangeable. The word "Yehudim" refers to the ethnicity of a certain Arab tribal people who lived in Canaan. i.e. "children of Judah". The word "Jew" refers to members of a religion whose "holy book" is the Talmud not the laws or revelations God gave to Moses or any of the Prophets. The "Jews" reject both Moses and the Prophets and believe that the Talmud is a higher authority.

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