Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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In Matthew 2:13-14 God sends one of angels to Joseph in a dream and tells him to flee with his family to Egypt.

This is most extraordinary in view of Isaiah 31:1 Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because [they are] many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD!

Here we have a God who has made it very clear that Egypt is no place for Hebrews and they shouldn't go near that country. The main problem seems to be that once there, Hebrews would be chased by hordes of warriors on horses and others driving them into the ground with their chariots.

God then shows an amazing weakness. Apparently he has no jurisdiction in Egypt because the Egyptian people don't believe in him.

This is good news for all of us. All you have to do to escape the horror of the Bible God is not to believe in him.

The Egyptians had not changed their religious views when the fictitious Jesus was said to have been an infant. So God still wouldn't have been able to protect Joseph and his family, yet he tells them that Egypt is their best chance of survival.

This is all very odd, not just because of the warning in Isaiah, but an earlier piece of godly advice:

Genesis 26:2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:

Despite the fact that in Hosea 12:9 and the previous chapter, God says he is an Egyptian God, he maintains that Egypt is not the place to be for Hebrews.

Oh, but wait on a moment. What is this?

Genesis 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:

Now God is waving the flag for Egypt.

How can anyone believe in such a mixed up God?

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Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd , an active member of his church, was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge and Christia leader Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Sunday School teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker active church member Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls who attended his church.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls after they attended Sunday School.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. David Swartz is an active member of his church.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo, a devout Christain. was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Christian anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican Christian anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl in the basement of the church he attended.
Republican racist pedophile and devout Christian, United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl he met at his church.
Like I said, the Saudis are a thousand times more efficient and effective in dealing with pedophiles than the US.....

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Hello everyone! I want to take this opportunity to apologize for all my mean comments. I realized that I need to take other steps to improve my life without harming others and stop using these threads for entertainment. I don't ask for anyone to forgive what I have done, but this apology comes from deep within. I am leaving these threads for good and I hope all of you have a wonderful and prosperous life. Take care and goodbye!

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Wrong. I said the First Cause/God existed BEFORE space and time and that fact doesn't make God "supernatural"
The phrase 'before time' is self-contradictory.

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If God is not the First Cause--what is, bubba?
There is no "First Cause". However for those who assert the existence of God: who created this alleged being God? The Universe exists to maintain itself. No invisible sky fairy is needed or required, in fact, what would such a thing do?

Write silly stories? Tell lies and deceive people?

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Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel ,
"Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead
you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago,(when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said,
"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this
is the Promised Land."

Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the
price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the
economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement
funds, etc .... I called a Suicide Hotline.

I had to press 1 for English.

I was connected to a call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal.

They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck......

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The phrase 'before time' is self-contradictory.
Time as we experience it here on the earth in this Universe is a self contained structure, it is not self-contradictory as you would deceive us into believing. Something existed before time and something continues to exist where time does not.

Having only your triune brain you are limited in your ability to comprehend what has existed [before time as we know it began] and as it continues to exist outside our time continuum.

You are an incomplete and unfinished being. Your possibilities are so much more than this puny triune brain of yours can comprehend.

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Like I said, the Saudis are a thousand times more efficient and effective in dealing with pedophiles than the US.....
You missed the point. Those pedophiles are all Republican Christians.

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The phrase 'before time' is self-contradictory.
Would you prefer "before the mental construct of time was invented by humans" or "before the illusion of time was invented by humans" ?

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You missed the point. Those pedophiles are all Republican Christians.
It doesn't matter what pious labels these monsters hide behind, bubba. They were totally godless and therefore atheist when they committed their perverted exploitation of children.

"By their fruits ye shall know them." -- Yeshua ben Yosef

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Take two aspirin and post us in the morning.

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Atheism is a religion in the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby.
islam is pretty much a subset of judaism and christianity. So allah plagiarised from humans.
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Sufi Islam is much older than either Judaism or Christianity, and the other sects of Islam didn't borrow anything from either Judaism or Christianity. No "Jew" or "Christian" wrote any of the original texts of the Bible or any other ancient wisdom literature from the Middle East.

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So you're anti-science, anti-logic, anti-mathematics, AND anti-God? You atheist bubbas are such a hoot!
What I said is fully supported by logic, science, and mathematics. Can you prove your so called God exists? I'll wait.

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Would you prefer "before the mental construct of time was invented by humans" or "before the illusion of time was invented by humans" ?
Astrophysicists, mathematicians and cosmologists must have a 'time zero' with the Universe unwinding, like some enormous mechanism, towards it's inevitable and predictable 'heat death'. The Universe thus becomes amicable to their formulae, analysis and understanding. Infinities of something 'unfathomable' must exist outside of these boundary events. Maybe your god is hiding there. Maybe that's where the really interesting stuff happens. Maybe there's an infinite Multiverse of which we are a tiny and transitory particle. Who knows.

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The phrase 'before time' is self-contradictory.
I am sorry, deeply sorry, that I replied to you in the harsh manner that I did, I mis-read who I was responding to and was responding to whom you were responding to and not you. My harsh comments were not directed to you and again I am deeply sorry for my error.

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It doesn't matter what pious labels these monsters hide behind, bubba. They were totally godless and therefore atheist when they committed their perverted exploitation of children.
"By their fruits ye shall know them." -- Yeshua ben Yosef
There is no such thing as a Christian or a Bible believer; anyone claiming such is a liar bubba.

When ever a "Christian" commits a crime all of a sudden he is not a Christian, but when an Atheist does something humanitarian it is ignored and not counted. You religious nuts are such a sick joke.

Since all "Christians" sin, there are no Christians of any kind, anywhere.

Interestingly enough, according to the Bible no biblicist is a Christian because none abide in Christ. Since none abide in Christ, how anyone can ever be saved becomes a logical question. Why can't people abide in Christ? Because everyone commits anti-social behavior, or what biblicists refer to as sin, and that excludes them summarily: "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him" (1 John 3:6), "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God" (1 John 3:9 NIV), "We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin, the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18 NIV). Obviously, then, no one has ever been born of God since all biblicists continue to sin, regardless. Until someone can demonstrate sinless perfection, abiding in Christ remains illusory.

And to make matters even worse from the biblicist's perspective, James 2:10 NIV says, "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." Also note Matt. 5:19. Since every believer repeatedly stumbles on one point or another, all believers are equally immoral. In other words, while John alleges that any sin obviates any possibility of one abiding in Christ, James asserts everyone commits the most heinous of acts.

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Sufi Islam is much older than either Judaism or Christianity, and the other sects of Islam didn't borrow anything from either Judaism or Christianity. No "Jew" or "Christian" wrote any of the original texts of the Bible or any other ancient wisdom literature from the Middle East.
Yeah, and before that there was the 'Divine Cults of the Sacred Bulls' and those who worshiped the 'Magic Mushroom'. So what. I'll take modern 'wisdom' any day.

http://www.magic-mushrooms.net/religion.html#...

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What I said is fully supported by logic, science, and mathematics. Can you prove your so called God exists? I'll wait.
He can't prove his so called God exists because it does not exist, and I will be quite happy to prove it does not exist just as soon as he is finished providing his proof that such an impossibility does in fact exist.

Let us be very clear that hearsay and deeply held beliefs are not evidence.

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Astrophysicists, mathematicians and cosmologists must have a 'time zero' with the Universe unwinding, like some enormous mechanism, towards it's inevitable and predictable 'heat death'. The Universe thus becomes amicable to their formulae, analysis and understanding. Infinities of something 'unfathomable' must exist outside of these boundary events. Maybe your god is hiding there. Maybe that's where the really interesting stuff happens. Maybe there's an infinite Multiverse of which we are a tiny and transitory particle. Who knows.
"Time is an illusion; lunchtime even more so." -- Ford Perfect, "Hitcherhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

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Sufi Islam is much older than either Judaism or Christianity, and the other sects of Islam didn't borrow anything from either Judaism or Christianity. No "Jew" or "Christian" wrote any of the original texts of the Bible or any other ancient wisdom literature from the Middle East.
Two major questions need to be addressed in regard to the alleged original writing of Scripture. First, was there an original copy of the Bible from which subsequent manuscripts were copied and, secondly, if there was such an original, and existing manuscripts are copies of that original, can we reconstruct or do we have an accurate copy of that original. In addressing the first question we noted that although there are thousands of manuscripts with similar and nearly identical texts, there were also thousands of variations. Because of the great number of differences, one would not be wise to assume there must have been a common source. Encyclopedias and cookbooks also bear a remarkable resemblance and one might assume they, too, had a common source. Although it is correct to say that the degree of similarity between biblical manuscripts is significantly higher than that between most encyclopedias and cookbooks, the difference is one of degree, not kind. It remains for believers in an original to prove it existed.

The second is even more important. Even if we assume an original existed, could one know what it said based on existing manuscripts? With thousands of variances between thousands of manuscripts, there is no way to definitely know an original's contents, despite apologetic assurances to the contrary. Hundreds of differences between translations bear witness to the fact that scholars can't agree on what various verses say, what they mean, and whether they should even be included in reconstruction of the Bible. The experts are clearly at loggerheads on many points and uncertain as to others. Unanimity is not the dominant theme by any means. Despite the uncertainty that permeates the process of translating and understanding, people are repeatedly told there is no reason to worry about the validity of translations or reconstruction of the "original."

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