Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10209 May 3, 2013
Islam confirms Krishna, Buddha, Mitra, Zoroastrian?

Nope. It is a barbaric Arab religion created to give blood thirsty looters something to rally behind. It was spread by the sword as you have admitted and just as in ancient pagan Arabic religion days where you had Allah the moon god and his two goddess daughters you confessed in modern Islam you have Allah and his two goddess daughters!

So really you worship at least three of not more gods.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
MUQ wrote:
PS:

And Islam is the ONLY religion in the world which confirms all previous religions and prophets.

Islam is the ONLY religion in the world which confirms that Allah did sent His prophets and messengers and books and revelation to every past nations of the world.

Islam has much more POSITIVE attitude towards other religions than any other religion.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#10210 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
Disbelief is "willful rejection of truth, once one gets convinced of it" so it has both positive and negative actions in it.
And disbelievers reject a particular faith but stick to whatever faith their forefathers and society stick to.
It is totally different from Atheism, who reject God and religion and have nothing to fill it with.
That is why I said that atheists are most unreasonable and illogical people on the face of earth.
I can see now why you people can't maintain your own jet planes or locate, extract or refine your own oil. To obtain your level of religious zeal requires indoctrination that must preclude (almost) everything else. Your religion has made you a slave and a rather nasty one, all things considered.

Since: May 10

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#10211 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
PS:
And Islam is the ONLY religion in the world which confirms all previous religions and prophets.
Islam is the ONLY religion in the world which confirms that Allah did sent His prophets and messengers and books and revelation to every past nations of the world.
Islam has much more POSITIVE attitude towards other religions than any other religion.
Islamists are commanded by their scripture to murder non-Islamists.

I don't call that a "positive attitude".

But maybe I'm too picky.

Since: May 10

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#10212 May 3, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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atheism is an ideology now?
Not just now - always has been.

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#10213 May 3, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Ah I forgot, Islam the religion of peace :D Islam was spread through group hugs :D
The pitbull is a dog of peace.

Moderate Islamists don't want to kill westerners.

They just enjoy watching them die.

If Muslims didn't hate America, American liberals would hate them.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10214 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Islamists are commanded by their scripture to murder non-Islamists.
I don't call that a "positive attitude".
But maybe I'm too picky.
Same barbarity as the old testament.Which "loving" Jesus supported to the letter.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10215 May 3, 2013
Some fatass has been watching Fox News again I see.

Did you shovel food down your throat at the buffet while the no spin zone was on fatty?
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>The pitbull is a dog of peace.

Moderate Islamists don't want to kill westerners.

They just enjoy watching them die.

If Muslims didn't hate America, American liberals would hate them.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10216 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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If Muslims didn't hate America, American liberals would hate them.
Thats strange logic. So you are saying liberals like Muslims cause they hate America? I am sure liberals and muslims hold diverse points of view over a range of things, so generalisations like this can be misguided.

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#10217 May 3, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Same barbarity as the old testament.Which "loving" Jesus supported to the letter.
Incorrect.

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#10218 May 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Some fatass has been watching Fox News again I see.
Did you shovel food down your throat at the buffet while the no spin zone was on fatty?
<quoted text>
A bit off point, ya think?

You are fatter than I am, by the way.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10219 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Incorrect.
Please explain.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

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#10220 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You are wrong, Islam does have a Negative as well as Positive element in its basic creed. Listen to this Basic Creed of Islam after saying this once becomes a Muslim:
a. AL ASHADU :(I DECLARE)(POSITIVE ACTION)
B. AL LA ILAHA (THAT THEIR IS NO DEITY (WORTH WORSHIPPING)(DENIAL, A NEGATIVE ACT)
C. ILLA ALLAH (EXCEPT ALLAH)(A VERY POSITIVE ASSERTION)
D. WA AL ASHADU (AND I DECLARE)(POSITIVE ACTION)
E. ANNA MUHAMMAD ROSOOL-AL-ALLAH (THAT MOHAMMAD IS A MESSENGER OF ALLAH)(ANOTHER POSITIVE ACTION)
No one can have any ideology based on only negation, that is why no one is able to define what is atheism.
And no one will be able to build any society or any civilization based on negative thinking.
So please rake your brains and bring a definition of Atheism that has some thing positive in it, not jugglery of words.
Not believing in things (unicorns, ogres, faeries, leprechauns, gods, etc.) that can't be supported with verifiable evidence IS a positive thing... unless of course your goal is to instill a faith based belief in someone else, then I can see how you would think it's a negative.

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#10221 May 3, 2013
TerryL wrote:
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Not believing in things (unicorns, ogres, faeries, leprechauns, gods, etc.) that can't be supported with verifiable evidence IS a positive thing... unless of course your goal is to instill a faith based belief in someone else, then I can see how you would think it's a negative.
Atheism IS a faith-based belief.

"‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God."
-Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

"Atheism is the position that affirms the nonexistence of God. It proposes positive belief rather than mere suspension of disbelief."
-Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy

"Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question of whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswered or unanswerable; for the atheist, the nonexistence of God is a certainty."
-Encyclopedia Britannica

"In fact, atheism is an active belief that God doesn’t exist."
-Jonathan Safarti, PhD
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#10222 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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..."In fact, atheism is an active belief that God doesn’t exist."
-Jonathan Safarti, PhD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J onathan_Sarfati
is a young Earth creationist.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#10223 May 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Ans.
You are just trying to use "verbal jugglery" and trying to act like a funny way, just as drowning men grab straws.
Not at all.

atheism

1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

American Heritage Dictionary

from Greek atheos, godless : a-, without; + theos, god. Theism - belief in God. Ergo, without belief in God.
MUQ wrote:
To compare "Atheism" which is a "major system in the world" with Alien Life in Universe shows that you are comparing apples against oranges.
But of course. To YOU. That's because you're a fundie and your beliefs are everything in the world to you.

Nobody else has to care.(shrug)
MUQ wrote:
Why do you not admit that you "do not have a positive definition" of what Atheism is.
It is a negative definition that there is No God
No, you are confusing the claim that there is no God with a simple lack of belief due to a lack of evidence. I can simply lack a belief in the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Show me evidence of the IPU and unless I address those claims with a rational rebuttal THEN you can start claiming I have a *positive* belief that there is no IPU.

Now, if you want a "fundamentalist atheist" who makes the POSITIVE assertion that there definitely is no God no way no how no matter what, then that's why God invented Skippy the 'Skeptic'. Go have fun with him.
MUQ wrote:
and there is No religion…..
Of course there's religions. That's not an issue.
MUQ wrote:
but what takes the place of God and religion in atheism, you have to declare that also.
No we don't. If humanity hadn't invented the concept of Gods then we wouldn't even need to have this conversation. Then one day just one person comes up with this "God" idea that no-one's ever even heard of before and all of a sudden the whole world suddenly has a "positive" belief that there is no God to the point that they are now all of a sudden all religious in their lack of belief? Ludicrous.

Nothing has to "take the place" of belief in aliens, we can simply lack a belief in aliens. Nothing has to take the place of belief in the IPU. We can simply lack a belief in the IPU. Nothing has to take the place of a belief in fairies. We can simply lack a belief in fairies.
MUQ wrote:
PS:
If this is your level of arguments, then why do you not become Christian and "explain" Trinity in common language to the multitude"!!
Because I'm not a Christian and I don't have to explain contradictory non-falsifiable non-scientific concepts like theism. And I worry little about your opinion about my arguments since you're not capable of rational debate, or indeed rationality at all. Something we found out three years ago.

Since: May 10

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#10224 May 3, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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No we don't. If humanity hadn't invented the concept of Gods then we wouldn't even need to have this conversation.
Because I'm not a Christian and I don't have to explain contradictory non-falsifiable non-scientific concepts like theism.
Bwhahahahahahahah...

1. Can you name a concept human beings DID NOT invent?

2. Do you not recognize that "disbelief" and "lack of belief" are different?

3. Would you like me to explain it to you?

I love it when a stupid slagstomping atheist supplies a defintion for his case, and it supports the other side.

You are quite a jewell, Milkdud.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

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#10225 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Atheism IS a faith-based belief.
"‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God."
-Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
"Atheism is the position that affirms the nonexistence of God. It proposes positive belief rather than mere suspension of disbelief."
-Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy
"Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open the question of whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswered or unanswerable; for the atheist, the nonexistence of God is a certainty."
-Encyclopedia Britannica
"In fact, atheism is an active belief that God doesn’t exist."
-Jonathan Safarti, PhD
LOL! Feel free to spin it anyway you like, but I'll stick with what atheists claim about themselves as opposed to what someone else claims about them in order to make their religious beliefs seem less ridiculous

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#10226 May 3, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Not necessarily. It's quite possible for Christianity to be growing faster than atheism in terms of raw numbers even while atheism is growing at a much faster rate when measured as a percentage of its current numbers or of the national or global population. All that is required for that to happen is for Christianity's current membership to be much larger than the subpopulation of atheists (it is) and for it to be growing at a much slower rate than that of the general population (it is) even though atheism is growing much faster by the latter measure (it is).
Oh, yes--and for the observer to be more than a little inept in math.
Right ... by that rationale, Christianity could be maintaining status quo, gaining as many members as are leaving and still be growing "faster" than atheism even if the lower growth numbers mean atheism doubles.

On that basis, I submit the only proper expression for growth is percentage increase.

Since: May 11

Nottingham, UK

#10227 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Not just now - always has been.
how are the pigs?

how is prison?

how is the shelf containing the sum of all human knowledge?

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#10228 May 3, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Here is a good way to test if someone could *possibly* have any understanding of QM: ask them to solve the differential equation y''+4y=0. If they cannot do so *instantly*, then they do not understand QM.
LOL That's like saying if someone doesn't speak Hebrew they can't possibly understand zionism.

Mathematical equations are beautiful, elegant works but they are just esoteric expressions of different human mental constructs of reality....not reality itself.

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