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“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249768 Mar 14, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you thought about writing docudramas, where you can make up your own history. It's called fiction which pretty much covers everything you post.
Have you thought about using your brain for anything but for the indulgment of your own salvation?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249769 Mar 14, 2013
If Jehovah didn't inspire hairy old men to write the truth in the old testament, it's not likely that the whole story of truth was finished off in the new testament.

Maybe a new god will pop up soon and admit that the whole bit of religion was just a joke ... for the fun of it ... stating that writing fiction gave humans something to do with their time.

:)
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#249770 Mar 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you thought about using your brain for anything but for the indulgment of your own salvation?
Looks like another kettle of fish you've gotten your self into June.
I'll stay out of this one.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249771 Mar 14, 2013
The man who now calls himself the second coming of Jesus is probably as close to the truth as any theologian so far.

He's taken all the nastiness out of religion and made it into pure unadulterated love.

He's an ideal Jesus ... pure and unjudgmental of humans ... not like that poopy old one that supported his cruel and demeaning Jewish father in the killing of innocent children and adults.

:)
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#249772 Mar 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you thought about using your brain for anything but for the indulgment of your own salvation?
Childish

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249773 Mar 14, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like another kettle of fish you've gotten your self into June.
I'll stay out of this one.
What are you on about now Jumper? I don't believe in salvation, or the idea that a Jewish god fell in love with Christians.

:)
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#249774 Mar 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Your god ordered the killing of live children, but you don't seem to have a problem with THAT issue. NONE whatsoever.
LOLOLOL...So what do you do the other 5 hours of the day you're not on Topix? Bingo??

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249775 Mar 14, 2013
Without punishment in its CLAWS, religion is not necessary ... as the god of creation would love unconditionally.

How sweet is THAT???

The new con-man that calls himself the second coming of Jesus pulled the most cunning of scams on himself.

We no longer need religion ... even his ... as the creator has emerged through this con-artist to tell us we are loved ... period ... free will is ours to have, with no penalties whatsoever for disobedience.

Isn't this latest "truth" wonderful NEWS to all???

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249776 Mar 14, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
LOLOLOL...So what do you do the other 5 hours of the day you're not on Topix? Bingo??
Your god ordered the killing of live children, but you don't seem to have a problem with THAT issue. NONE whatsoever.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249777 Mar 14, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Childish
Yes, you ARE childish!

Your salvation is all that is on your mind.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249778 Mar 14, 2013
Back when I believed in the existence of a creator of the emotions of unconditional love, I never thought about how it wouldn't matter whether or not I believed in the creator, as such a creator would mean no harm to anyone at any time, any place whatsoever.

Now that I am an Atheist and I don't believe in the existence OF a creator, I'm no better or worse off than I was before when I believed that the creator was all about love, love, love.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

The way it was
The way it is
The way it oughta be
Ain't no tellin about some things

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249779 Mar 14, 2013
Cruelty in the New Testament

The book, called the Bible, is filled with passages equally horrible, unjust and atrocious. This is the book to be read in schools in order to make our children loving, kind and gentle! This is the book they wish to be recognized in our Constitution as the source of all authority and justice!-- Robert Green Ingersoll, The Gods,(1872)

Matthew

Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

"The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12

Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen 19:24). 10:14-15

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249780 Mar 14, 2013
Religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery.

Robert Green Ingersoll

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249781 Mar 14, 2013
If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.

Robert Green Ingersoll

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249782 Mar 14, 2013
I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men.

Robert Green Ingersoll

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249783 Mar 14, 2013
Christians want me to respect their religion, yet they believe that Islam deserves NO respect, so much so, that they go proselytize Christianity as the only truth to the Muslims in their own countries.

Christianity and Islam branched off the same tree as did Judaism. They don't trust that each other has truth, yet they want me to trust that THEY have truth in their possession.

It ain't gonna happen!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#249784 Mar 14, 2013
Let us put theology out of religion. Theology has always sent the worst to heaven, the best to hell.

Robert Green Ingersoll
Economist

Grand Island, NY

#249785 Mar 14, 2013
The Queen of England backed an historic pledge to promote gay rights and ‘gender equality’ in one of the most controversial acts of her reign.

In a live television broadcast, she signs a new charter designed to stamp out discrimination against homosexual people and promote the ‘empowerment’ of women – a key part of a new drive to boost human rights and living standards across the Commonwealth.

In her first public appearance since she had hospital treatment for a stomach bug, the Queen signed the new Commonwealth Charter and make a speech explaining her passionate commitment to it.

Insiders say her decision to highlight the event is a ‘watershed’ moment – the first time she has clearly signalled her support for gay rights in her 61-year reign.

The charter, dubbed a ‘21st Century Commonwealth Magna Carta’ declares:

‘We are implacably opposed to all forms of discrimination, whether rooted  in gender, race, colour, creed, political belief or other grounds.’

The ‘other grounds’ is intended to refer to sexuality – but specific reference to ‘gays and lesbians’ was omitted in deference to Commonwealth countries still with draconian anti-gay laws.

Sources close to the Royal Household said she is aware of the implications of the charter’s implicit support of gay rights and commitment to gender equality.

In her speech, the Queen is expected to stress that the rights must ‘include everyone’- and this is seen as an implicit nod to the agenda of inclusivity.
Economist

Grand Island, NY

#249786 Mar 14, 2013
Though America's founding fathers were not deeply religious -- in fact Thomas Jefferson had a hatred for organized religion -- the average American in the early Republic made sense of the world through religion.

Despite the spread of rationalism during this period, "religion in America gained in authority precisely because of its separation from governmental power," a separation that had come from the Revolution, and that separation helped ignite a massive outpouring of religious enthusiasm:

"Cultivated gentlemen like Thomas Jefferson may have relied on the arts and sciences to help them interpret and reform the world,

but that was not the case with most average Americans.

Nearly all common and middling people in the early Republic still made sense of the world through religion.

Devastating fires, destructive earthquakes, and bad harvests were acts of God and often considered punishments for a sinful people.

As they had in the mid-eighteenth century, people still fell on their knees when struck by the grace of God.

People prayed openly and often.

They took religion seriously, talked about it, and habitually resorted to it in order to examine the state of their souls.

Despite growing doubts of revelation and the spread of rationalism in the early Republic, most Americans remained deeply religious.

"As American society became more democratic in the early nineteenth century, middling people rose to dominance and brought their religiosity with them.

The Second Great Awakening, as the movement was later called, was a massive outpouring of evangelical religious enthusiasm, perhaps a more massive expression of Protestant Christianity than at any time since the seventeenth century or even the Reformation.

By the early decades of the nineteenth century American society appeared to be much more religious than it had been in the final decades of the eighteenth century.

"The American Revolution broke many of the intimate ties that had traditionally linked religion and government, especially with the Anglican Church,

and turned religion into a voluntary affair, a matter of individual free choice.

But contrary to the experience of eighteenth-century Europeans, whose rationalism tended to erode their allegiance to religion,

religion in America did not decline with the spread of enlightenment and liberty.

Indeed, as Tocqueville was soon to observe, religion in America gained in authority precisely because of its separation from governmental power.

"At the time of the revolution few could have predicted such an outcome.

Occurring as it did in an enlightened and liberal age, the Revolution seemed to have little place for religion.

Although some of the Founders, such as Samuel Adams, John Jay, Patrick Henry, Elias Boudinot, and Roger Sherman, were fairly devout Christians,

most leading Founders were not deeply or passionately religious,

and few of them led much of a spiritual life.

As enlightened gentlemen addressing each other in learned societies, many of the leading gentry abhorred 'that gloomy superstition disseminated by ignorant illiberal preachers'

and looked forward to the day when 'the phantom of darkness will be dispelled by the rays of science, and the bright charms of rising civilization.'
Economist

Grand Island, NY

#249787 Mar 14, 2013
"Most of them, at best, only passively believed in organized Christianity and, at worst, privately scorned and mocked it. Although few of them were outright deists, that is, believers in a clockmaker God who had nothing to do with revelation and simply allowed the world to run in accord with natural forces, most, like South Carolina historian David Ramsay, did tend to describe the Christian church as 'the best temple of reason.'... The Founders viewed religious enthusiasm as a kind of madness, the conceit 'of a warmed or overweening brain.' In all of his writings Washington rarely mentioned Christ, and, in fact, he scrupulously avoided testifying to a belief in the Christian gospel. Many of the Revolutionary leaders were proto-Unitarians, denying miracles and the divinity of Jesus. Even puritanical John Adams thought that the argument for Christ's divinity was an 'awful blasphemy' in this new enlightened age.

"Jefferson's hatred for the clergy and organized religion knew no bounds.

He believed that members of the 'priestcraft' were always in alliance with despots against liberty.

'To this effect,' he said -- privately, of course, not publicly --

'they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man, into mystery and jargon unintelligible to all mankind

and therefore the safer engine for their purposes.'

The Trinity was nothing but 'Abracadabra' and 'hocus-pocus ...
so incomprehensible to the human mind that no candid man can say he has any idea of it.'

Ridicule, he said, was the only weapon to be used against it."

Author: Gordon Wood 
Title: Empire of Liberty: A History of the Early Republic, 1789-1815
Publisher: Oxford University Press
Date: Copyright 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc.
Pages: 576-577

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