Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

[Sherlayne]

Jumper wrote:

<quoted text>I guess it's one of those things that comes with age.

You mean you're really having chest pains? Or did you mean I'm so old I SHOULD be losing my friends?

[June VanDerMark]

Jumper wrote:

<quoted text>Do you think it's the stess of topix catching up with me?

Definitely!

:)

If you ask a silly question ... be prepared for a silly answer.

That's why religion is so silly. People ask questions and expect answers to come back from some invisible mysterious source.

Been there ... done that!

[June VanDerMark]

When people figure that some wonderful mysterious "guiding" source is available to hand out wisdom ... that attitude leaves thought vulnerable to scam artists galore.

Quacks referring to themselves as theologians, ministers, priests, Imams, rabbis, psychics, etc., suck money and devotion out of people that are weakened by such ideas.

Observe the giggling dalai lama and how many devotees he has world-wide. He offers ideas such as ... if science upgrades religion, it is best to change the religious thought to go with science.

If you are needy ... the quacks are waiting for you, your money and your devotion.

Many of these smooth-talkers have become very wealthy, selling books, paraphernalia and setting up speaking and teaching engagements for needy, mentally greedy humans ... desperate for "answers" to what "remains" mysteries.

[June VanDerMark]

If you think that the bible in the motel or hotel was free ... you are wrong.

That was how they got you into the church.

If you think that those meals they serve to the poor are free, you are wrong.

The meals heal your body, while the religious-sermons captivate your thoughts.

You may overcome your alcohol, or drug addiction ... but you will then be addicted to religion.

And that was their AIM!

[June VanDerMark]

The dalai lama appears to be a humble man. He was trained that way from childhood.

On one hand, he was taught that he is the incarnation of a previous dalai lama, who was enlightened to know what others simply don't know.

And on the other hand, he was taught to show humility and handle his vast wisdom with dignity.

Never be fooled that he is humble. He is indeed an arrogant man.

He takes well to the title "His Holiness!"

[June VanDerMark]

Where there is religion, there is arrogance in its midst.

From my perspective, the height of arrogance can't be done up in a more "telling" package and wrapped with a ribbon of stupidity than occurred in the following.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[June VanDerMark]

The Use and Misuse of Language … edited by S. I. Hayakawa.

General semanticists know it is hard to make the average person realize that he brings meaning to the word, that the word does not contain any meaning.

[June VanDerMark]

What does the word religion mean to you???

My guess is, it has many meanings.

To me it means lies ... division among the countless cults ... death ... tortures yet untold and more to come ... arrogance in pretending to have solved mysteries ... mental and physical abuse put on children, as they grow up to hate their human natures and to hate those in other religious cults.

I could go on ... but you get the picture.

Some people claim that I hate religion. I don't hate ... period ... but I will ask you ... what is there to like about religion ... as a whole???

It's plain that you adore your own cults ... but I'm asking ... what is it you like about religion ... as a "whole" idea?

[June VanDerMark]

From my perspective, one of the least arrogant humans of religion was Gandhi. He perceived that all people were equal. He wanted to do away with the vile cast system.

The dalai lama NEEDS the cast system. He is at the top of the system that serves him well. VERY well indeed.

If ONLY he could get back to RULE in Tibet, where he could live in luxury as does the pope.

Too bad for the suffering dalai lama and the pope.

Sarcasm intended!

[June VanDerMark]

Keep in mind that the men of religion had ALL the power.
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From the book “Women and Madness”… by Phyllis Chesler

Ada Metcalf (1876,) of Illinois, wrote:“It is very fashionable and easy thing now to make a person out to be insane. If a man tires of his wife, and if befooled after some other woman, it is not a very difficult matter to get her in an institution of this kind. Belladonna and chloroform will give her appearance of being crazy enough, and after the asylum doors have closed upon her, adieu to the beautiful world and home associations.”

[June VanDerMark]

Women in America owe a great deal to the pioneers such as Ada Metcalf, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cody Stanton, Margaret Sanger and countless others.

Without them, women would be treated as they are in countries where Islam rules, and women have no rights whatsoever.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was raised under that system. She is now an Atheist who risks her life every day to free her Muslim "sisters" from the dictating men that use their religion to insist that it is HOLY, while they brutalize the women held in bondage UNDER the system.

Religion is NOT good!

[June VanDerMark]

http://www.westernshugdensociety.org/video/my...

[Jumper]

June VanDerMark wrote:

http://www.westernshugdensocie ty.org/video/mystics-and-cold- warriors/

Easy for you to sit back and judge.

All you have to do is sit back and relax up north while we get wiped out.

Then you guys will kiss the hand of who ever takes over.

Well if the U.S. goes down,we're dragging your konook butts with us!

[June VanDerMark]

If I was young and single, I would think nothing of marrying (for instance) a Muslim ... but ONLY if he was an Atheist and had never BEEN under the spell of Islam.

Had he at any time been subjected to Islam in his life, he could at any future time revert BACK (through fear of punishment in a hereafter) TO his original religious indoctrination.

That type of issue has occurred on more than one occasion.
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The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

Repentance

On the contrary we have a well-authenticated instance of a Mahomedan (a Mr. Merton) who had embraced Christianity, and lived the life of a Christian for many years, renouncing it all, and returning to his primitive faith, when he was taken sick and became apprehensive he was going to die: his early religious impressions, returning involuntarily, wiped out his Christianity, and he died glorying in Mahomedanism.

[June VanDerMark]

Jumper wrote:

<quoted text>Easy for you to sit back and judge.
All you have to do is sit back and relax up north while we get wiped out.
Then you guys will kiss the hand of who ever takes over.
Well if the U.S. goes down,we're dragging your konook butts with us!

If it becomes a matter of survival, never mind kissing hands, I will kiss the dirtiest of butts to save my yellow-bellied hide.

You aren't telling me anything I don't already comprehend!

That's why I understand that no savior can make me over into a holy being.

It is what it is!

[June VanDerMark]

More than one American woman has married Muslim men and all went well, until the men took them to some Muslim-dominated country, destroyed their passports and the women found themselves "trapped" ... until they somehow escaped back to America.

Those men are often charming and good looking to boot, but be careful of the hold that religion put upon them. Religion will, in most cases, RULE!

[June VanDerMark]

At the time in history this book was written, aside from the Native Indians, the only ones in America WERE Christians.

Now, the religious scene is based on a totally different kettle of fish.
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The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

The reason why people are so easily converted from one sect to another in Christian countries is owing to the fact that their religious convictions are unsettled. The members of the different Christian sects are all mixed up together in the various settlements throughout the country, and are brought in daily contact with each other in the busy scenes of life.

[June VanDerMark]

From the book “Women and Madness”… by Phyllis Chesler

At thirty-two, the unmarried Adriana Brinkle (1857), of Pennsylvania, conducted an economic transaction of her own: she sold some furniture. Charges were brought against her for selling some furniture for which she had not fully paid. For the crime of embarrassing her physician father’s sense of “family honor,” Brinkle’s father and his judge-friend sentenced her to twenty-eight years in a psychiatric hospital.

[June VanDerMark]

From the book “Women and Madness”… by Phyllis Chesler

In 1861, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton wrote:“Could the dark secrets of those insane asylums be brought to light … we would be shocked to know the countless number of rebellious wives, sisters and daughters that are thus annually sacrificed to false customs and conventionalisms, and barbarous laws made by men for women.”

[June VanDerMark]

From the book “Women and Madness”… by Phyllis Chesler

Elizabeth Packard managed to escape after three years in an Illinois asylum. She published an account of her hospital experience and fought for the legal rights of mental patients and married women.

Packard was a devout believer in both Christianity and motherhood. Romantic passion, doubt, creative egoism, and anguish were either flawlessly subdued or never part of her grandly practical sensibility. Her sins of individuality concerned religious freedom. Packard’s husband literally forbade her to express her own opinions on theological matters.