Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243000 Nov 29, 2012
Estelle wrote:
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Yes, you would have a greater insight than those who haven't had that Catholic background.
I felt for the longest time I've been living in this Catholic enclosure like a box. It was a very comforting place to be.
Everything is black or white. They are no grays even to think or suggest there could be I would believe it was the devil tempting me.
Now when I questioned the teachings of the Catholic Church about stuff like birth control, homosexuality or even gays in the priesthood etc...I find myself out of that Catholic box and treated as a threat to all who follow strongly the Catholic teachings.
I'm learning not to let it get to me.
Sorry Estelle. My mistake about Morgana's intended use of Tarot cards.

I misunderstood.
Jumper

Owensboro, KY

#243001 Nov 29, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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It's not easy for me anyway.
:)
'Yea---somebodies in my tater pach! Done went and took my woman from me! Been mistreated baby,Lordy,Lordy feel like I'm gona cry!'

'Oh baby standing in the doorway wait'in for you to come a'round.

You treat me so low-down,won't you come back home to me!'

Rice Crispy Jumper 2012

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243002 Nov 29, 2012
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>'Yea---somebodies in my tater pach! Done went and took my woman from me! Been mistreated baby,Lordy,Lordy feel like I'm gona cry!'
'Oh baby standing in the doorway wait'in for you to come a'round.
You treat me so low-down,won't you come back home to me!'
Rice Crispy Jumper 2012
AHHH well ... I suggest that you look at this way. If they can't see the good in you, you can at least see the bad in them!

Therapy class from time immemorial!

:)

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243003 Nov 29, 2012
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you would have a greater insight than those who haven't had that Catholic background.
I felt for the longest time I've been living in this Catholic enclosure like a box. It was a very comforting place to be.
Everything is black or white. They are no grays even to think or suggest there could be I would believe it was the devil tempting me.
Now when I questioned the teachings of the Catholic Church about stuff like birth control, homosexuality or even gays in the priesthood etc...I find myself out of that Catholic box and treated as a threat to all who follow strongly the Catholic teachings.
I'm learning not to let it get to me.
Don't let it get to you!

I went down this road when I was 17, it took awhile to shake it and I still have great discussions with family members about the bible in general. I find the most devout have never read the book. Those who have claim to take it rather lightly but still profess belief.

Guess I can't understand that.

After reading the book for myself I determined it was authored by men with ZERO divine
intervention .

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243004 Nov 29, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's very simple. You and Estelle were getting along. June can't stand it when other posters get along. So, since your words as they were could not be used in an attempt to make you and Estelle argue about something, June twisted them into something she thought she could use.
It just won't work.

I am not going to argue with Estelle at all. I don't think Estelle will be up for it either!:)

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243005 Nov 29, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
And now I "get" what you meant. You tried to scare the religious ones away by bringing out the Tarot cards that you were certain would offend them.
Gothcha!... My misinterpretation of what you meant. I apologize.
No problem!

On a devious note I do find it entertaining that "some" people" are afraid of a deck of cards.

Some people are afraid of the Ouija Board...I have a couple of them also....very handy items!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243006 Nov 29, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
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No problem!
On a devious note I do find it entertaining that "some" people" are afraid of a deck of cards.
Some people are afraid of the Ouija Board...I have a couple of them also....very handy items!
Thank you.

I don't entertain myself with any of those things.

To me, those articles are about trying to manipulate energy, and I don't believe that energy is anything to take for granted.
Jumper

Owensboro, KY

#243007 Nov 29, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
I don't entertain myself with any of those things.
To me, those articles are about trying to manipulate energy, and I don't believe that energy is anything to take for granted.
I don't blame you for being spooked.

There are some things we humans are not suppose to know.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243008 Nov 29, 2012
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>I don't blame you for being spooked.
There are some things we humans are not suppose to know.
I've played cards such as bridge, etc.... but the cards to which I refer that I avoid, are tarot cards.

I don't go to psychics either. Not because I fear them, but rather because I don't trust them to know that what they see is real. Playing with fantasies can lead to big trouble.

I knew of one woman who would hardly leave her home unless she first checked with her psychic. She became obsessed with fantasy.

And from my perception, once people believe they can know the future, they are not at all trustworthy.
Jumper

Owensboro, KY

#243009 Nov 29, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I've played cards such as bridge, etc.... but the cards to which I refer that I avoid, are tarot cards.
I don't go to psychics either. Not because I fear them, but rather because I don't trust them to know that what they see is real. Playing with fantasies can lead to big trouble.
I knew of one woman who would hardly leave her home unless she first checked with her psychic. She became obsessed with fantasy.
And from my perception, once people believe they can know the future, they are not at all trustworthy.
June,June. No one can know the future except God,or maybe a time traveler...but that's another kettle of fish.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243010 Nov 30, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
I don't entertain myself with any of those things.
To me, those articles are about trying to manipulate energy, and I don't believe that energy is anything to take for granted.
June, if you are afraid of your energy being manipulated better not leave the house, turn on a TV, view a movie or anything else.

Anything and everything can manipulate energy, thought is energy. Critical thinking lowers the possibility of manipulation.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#243011 Nov 30, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Sorry Estelle. My mistake about Morgana's intended use of Tarot cards.
I misunderstood.
No problem.
I figured it was only a matter of time June you would get this Tarot card stuff figured out.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#243012 Nov 30, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I've played cards such as bridge, etc.... but the cards to which I refer that I avoid, are tarot cards.
I don't go to psychics either. Not because I fear them, but rather because I don't trust them to know that what they see is real. Playing with fantasies can lead to big trouble.
I knew of one woman who would hardly leave her home unless she first checked with her psychic. She became obsessed with fantasy.
And from my perception, once people believe they can know the future, they are not at all trustworthy.
June, I thought Nancy Reagan was an embarrassment to our whole country because of her strong but ridiculous belief in horoscopes. What was next for her? Tarot cards? Reading tea leaves? A "First Lady" making a complete fool of herself. I have a crystal ball - I do NOT believe in things like that, it's just cute :)

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#243013 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't let it get to you!
I went down this road when I was 17, it took awhile to shake it and I still have great discussions with family members about the bible in general. I find the most devout have never read the book. Those who have claim to take it rather lightly but still profess belief.
Guess I can't understand that.
After reading the book for myself I determined it was authored by men with ZERO divine
intervention .

You started at 17 to questioned all this Bible stuff and the Roman Catholic Church. Good for you.
Sadly I was in my 50's.
First there was those women's issues and I believe what got me questioning more than ever was when my adult son said to me: "Mom, I'm gay".

I was stun to learn on my own that the Roman Catholic Church had many many gay priests/clergy.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#243014 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
It just won't work.
I am not going to argue with Estelle at all. I don't think Estelle will be up for it either!:)
It's alright to disagree because so many of us have different view points.

Many us do not want admit that some posters challenge us to try to see things in a different way.
Sometimes we agree nevertheless what is good is that we try to respect each others opinions even though we do not necessarily agree with other folks viewpoints.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243015 Nov 30, 2012
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
You started at 17 to questioned all this Bible stuff and the Roman Catholic Church. Good for you.
Sadly I was in my 50's.
First there was those women's issues and I believe what got me questioning more than ever was when my adult son said to me: "Mom, I'm gay".
I was stun to learn on my own that the Roman Catholic Church had many many gay priests/clergy.
I don't think the age really matters, what does matter is realization, and change in direction. I was lucky I had people around me who seen things differently, one was the women I mentioned who read Taro cards, she amongst others saw things in a different perspective and I like to ask questions :)

My brother was gay....and molested by a priest, then suicide. My brother and I had many conversations about the church and the bible, which he did NOT believe in. Another influence.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#243016 Nov 30, 2012
Sherlayne wrote:
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June, I thought Nancy Reagan was an embarrassment to our whole country because of her strong but ridiculous belief in horoscopes. What was next for her? Tarot cards? Reading tea leaves? A "First Lady" making a complete fool of herself. I have a crystal ball - I do NOT believe in things like that, it's just cute :)
I find astrology interesting. Not horoscopes so much. I read Linda Goodmans Sun Signs and found some interesting personality descriptions that have allowed me to target people rather accurately after spending a bit of time with them. Coincidence? Maybe, but interesting none the less. Charts are also interesting.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#243017 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
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I find astrology interesting. Not horoscopes so much. I read Linda Goodmans Sun Signs and found some interesting personality descriptions that have allowed me to target people rather accurately after spending a bit of time with them. Coincidence? Maybe, but interesting none the less. Charts are also interesting.
Astrology is very interesting. Most people don't know that we are more than just our "Sun sign". There is a Moon sign, and one for the other planets (except Earth, of course). For anyone who's ever read the description of their sign and thought "that's just not me", especially someone near the cusp between two signs, that's why. You have to figure out your birth chart, and read the whole thing. And the other forms of the zodiac (Chinese, Celtic Lunar calendar, etc, seem to be just as accurate, at least when describing personalities.

It really can't predict the future, it can just give general trends, and how each person is likely to react to them. A great book is "The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need". Can't remember the author right at this moment.

Astrology is nothing to live your whole life by, IMO, but it can help you to know yourself.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243018 Nov 30, 2012
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>June,June. No one can know the future except God,or maybe a time traveler...but that's another kettle of fish.
By the way, how was Jehovah doing the last time you conversed with him?

Was he behaving more as though he was into the evil side of his character ... or the holy side?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#243019 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
June, if you are afraid of your energy being manipulated better not leave the house, turn on a TV, view a movie or anything else.
Anything and everything can manipulate energy, thought is energy. Critical thinking lowers the possibility of manipulation.
I'm not afraid of my energy being manipulated. I am respectful of not trying to manipulate energy in such ways as that to which you refer.

Playing with Ouija boards and going to psychics that believe they can manipulate the future with their whims of fancy, while they play, or are serious in intent, with tarot cards, etc., is not something to which I adhere.

If you like dabbling in that type of stuff, that is your right.

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