Catholic Church Waging War on Women a...

Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

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“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241567 Nov 15, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that is not what I'm stating. Learn to read.
SPEAKING of reading, it's not MY answer. It's the facts of the case as given in the article, AND of the laws in Ireland that YOU posted a link to. Obviously, YOU failed to read either fully.
My guess is, the physicians honestly believed that they could not operate.

There is probably more to the story than meets the eye.

People always want to jump to conclusions.

If the family of the deceased woman takes the issue to court, my guess is, more infomation will come out as time goes by.

Until then, I will believe that the physicians did the best they could by how they perceived the situation.

Whether they had all their information correct, is the question that is yet to be answered.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241568 Nov 15, 2012
The uproar over this issue will bring the issue of legal abortion into the spotlight .. but being a country of heavy Catholicism is going to be a touchy issue probably for some time yet to come.

No doubt women of the Catholic faith that can afford to, are going to England on a regular basis for abortions.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241569 Nov 15, 2012
From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following………

1980

In India, a woman dies about every ten minutes from a botched abortion. Abortion is legal in India in many cases, but many women in rural areas have no access to clinics.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241570 Nov 15, 2012
From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following………

1982

A Peruvian report estimates that 10-15% of the women in its prisons have been jailed for obtaining or performing abortions. Peru’s death rate from abortion (50 in 10,000 women) is ten times that of most industrialized nations. Most abortions are punishable by jail for both the doctor or midwife and the women who chooses to abort.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241571 Nov 15, 2012
tman wrote:
There is nothing wrong with being gay. Yet there is also nothing wrong with being pro-life or Catholic. As a straight pro-life Catholic I treat gays like anyone else. I'm not mean to them nor do I treat them better than everyone else. They, like me, are human. The church isn't waging a war because the church, which has been around for over 2000 years, accepts gays and tries to help scared women who are seeking abortion. The only war that I'm seeing is on the Church itself.
It's all matters of opinions.

What you believe is right will be perceived by another as wrong, and vica versa.

It's just the way it is.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241572 Nov 15, 2012
From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following………

1983

Sixty-five percent of women over eighteen in Mexico have children. Although abortion is illegal in most cases, about 1.6 million abortions are performed yearly, 92% of them under unsanitary conditions. About 100,000 women die each year from botched abortions.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241573 Nov 15, 2012
The way it was
The way it is
The way it oughta be
Just no tellin about some things

Author unknown
tman

Commack, NY

#241574 Nov 15, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
It's all matters of opinions.
What you believe is right will be perceived by another as wrong, and vica versa.
It's just the way it is.
I know. We both have diagreements and we both believe we are the ones who are right. However, I believe that my views on abortion are more progressive than yours because new medical science and technology favor the pro-life movement.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241575 Nov 15, 2012
tman wrote:
<quoted text>
I know. We both have diagreements and we both believe we are the ones who are right. However, I believe that my views on abortion are more progressive than yours because new medical science and technology favor the pro-life movement.
You might be right!

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241576 Nov 15, 2012
When women have abortions there is no such thing as saving a fetus. Not even one!

And women who are determined to have abortions, whether legal or illegal in law, as history proves day by day ... WILL have abortions.

I am all for keeping abortion legal to save the lives of women ... period, and that is not anti-life ... that is pro-life.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241577 Nov 15, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The consultant said,‘As long as there is a foetal heartbeat we can’t do anything’."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-laws-...
Which was the lie I spoke of. The law says differently.

Damn, you're stupid.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241578 Nov 15, 2012
Those who are anti-legal abortion, often mention the staggering number of abortions performed world-wide, but they find it convenient to leave out the number of women world-wide that die from botched back-alley type abortions.

However, they are quick to point out a woman here and there that dies in a clinic from a legal abortion gone wrong! VERY quick in deed!

We love to tell the stories that suit our personalized agendas.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241579 Nov 15, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
My guess is, the physicians honestly believed that they could not operate.
There is probably more to the story than meets the eye.
People always want to jump to conclusions.
If the family of the deceased woman takes the issue to court, my guess is, more infomation will come out as time goes by.
Until then, I will believe that the physicians did the best they could by how they perceived the situation.
Whether they had all their information correct, is the question that is yet to be answered.
You're an idiot. They already had all the information. They already KNEW they couldn't save the fetus. They already knew the law allows abortion to save a woman's life. They simply ignored what they knew, and didn't do everything they could to save their patient.

You ignoring facts just so you can disagree with me, is disgusting.

You are a sick, disgusting excuse for a human being. Please stop pretending you care about people. All you care about is your agenda.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241580 Nov 15, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Which was the lie I spoke of. The law says differently.
Damn, you're stupid.
If they weren't aware of the fine line OF the law,(as even the law-makers find it murky)... then maybe they believed they were following the law.

It is my guess they wouldn't break a law on purpose, as they would be fully aware it could come back on them later.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241581 Nov 15, 2012
I'm off for the night ... going to a concert.

Have fun..........

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241582 Nov 15, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If they weren't aware of the fine line OF the law,(as even the law-makers find it murky)... then maybe they believed they were following the law.
It is my guess they wouldn't break a law on purpose, as they would be fully aware it could come back on them later.
The law clearly leaves it up to the physician.

They lied. They knew they COULD do the abortion, they just didn't WANT to do the abortion. Did you even READ the husband's account?

You're disgusting. You're going through all these twists JUST to argue with me about something we both agree with; that women have the right to not die.

You're a sick fuck. A disgusting piece of shit. A pitiful human being who PRETENDS to care about women, but really only cares about their agenda.

You've now thrown women under the bus like you did homosexuals. JUST to argue with me. Congratualtions, you piece of shit. Who's next? Children? Kittens?
Jumper

Owensboro, KY

#241583 Nov 15, 2012
DARN! That was...I don't know.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241584 Nov 16, 2012
Jumper wrote:
DARN! That was...I don't know.
What it was, was honestly meant. Every word.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241585 Nov 16, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
The law clearly leaves it up to the physician.
They lied. They knew they COULD do the abortion, they just didn't WANT to do the abortion. Did you even READ the husband's account?
You're disgusting. You're going through all these twists JUST to argue with me about something we both agree with; that women have the right to not die.
You're a sick fuck. A disgusting piece of shit. A pitiful human being who PRETENDS to care about women, but really only cares about their agenda.
You've now thrown women under the bus like you did homosexuals. JUST to argue with me. Congratualtions, you piece of shit. Who's next? Children? Kittens?
There is a part of the story I believe is yet missing, that might, or might not, come out later.

If you notice, the headline doesn't place "blame" (even by using the word alleged) against the physicians. It ONLY suggests backlash to the "laws" against abortion in Ireland.

Being a physician is a difficult job, and under laws that are against abortion, in a strict Catholic environment, it would not be easy FOR the physicians to make a judgment call until the fetus showed no life whatsoever, to abort the fetus.

And by then, it was too late to save the woman.

That is my judgment of the situation. It's quite obvious your judgment is different.

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Mother's Death Causes Big Backlash Against Ireland's Abortion Laws
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-laws-...
frogmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#241586 Nov 16, 2012
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