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“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241591 Nov 16, 2012
I'm inclined to believe that the fetuses at early stages of pregnancy are very aware of their surroundings and feel pain as any adult feels pain.

I don't however believe that fetuses are linked to any god or goddess in the sense of being divine.

Opinions are only of value to those that value the opinions.

Truth is another issue entirely. It's ALWAYS up for grabs.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241592 Nov 16, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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I never said anything about murder. Why must you lie, you disgusting fraud?
You impy it constantly!

Allowing a woman to die with intent ... IS murder!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241593 Nov 16, 2012
So you see people that if you ever vote a Wiccan such as Bitner into a position of power in government ... the person will not give a rat's ass how fetuses are treated in wombs. No anesthetic before operations would be perceived as necessary. No anesthetic before abortions ... also perceived as not necessary.

As from my perspective, no Atheist will ever be in power in government ... I would rather have a Christian in office than a Wiccan ... and that is my concept of truth.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241594 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You impy it constantly!
Allowing a woman to die with intent ... IS murder!
I implied no such thing, you lying sack of shit.

I very clearly said, SEVERAL times, that it was medical malpratice. Why would I suggest someone be SUED for "murder", Moron?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241595 Nov 16, 2012
Back before I studied Wicca, I used to believe that Wiccans were more understanding of other people and their problems than are Christians.

I was wrong! All humans suffer from tunnel vision, and can't be more than the tunnel vision allows us to be.

It's not possible.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241596 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
I'm inclined to believe that the fetuses at early stages of pregnancy are very aware of their surroundings and feel pain as any adult feels pain.
I don't however believe that fetuses are linked to any god or goddess in the sense of being divine.
Opinions are only of value to those that value the opinions.
Truth is another issue entirely. It's ALWAYS up for grabs.
Bullshit. That's just your cowardly copout.

Fetal pain had NOTHING to do with this issue, anyway. THAT, and you bringing up abortion on demand, are just your dishonest deflections.

You're disgusting.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241597 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
So you see people that if you ever vote a Wiccan such as Bitner into a position of power in government ... the person will not give a rat's ass how fetuses are treated in wombs. No anesthetic before operations would be perceived as necessary. No anesthetic before abortions ... also perceived as not necessary.
As from my perspective, no Atheist will ever be in power in government ... I would rather have a Christian in office than a Wiccan ... and that is my concept of truth.
Just more dishonest deflection from you, you lying piece of shit.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241598 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
Back before I studied Wicca, I used to believe that Wiccans were more understanding of other people and their problems than are Christians.
I was wrong! All humans suffer from tunnel vision, and can't be more than the tunnel vision allows us to be.
It's not possible.
Oh, please! Such melodramatic crap! YOU don't care about people at all, just your agenda. You proved that when you argued against something you normally wouldn't, JUST to argue with ME.

You're disgusting, you hypocrite.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241599 Nov 16, 2012
The ONLY time a fetus would have any importance to Bitner is if she wanted a baby.

Once out of the womb, the "baby" would be perceived as a divine link to the goddess in conjunction with Bitner's religious belief.

And because she WANTED the baby ... while it was growing in her womb, she would place HIGH value on the fetus.

We are indeed a selfish lot of animals.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241600 Nov 16, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
I implied no such thing, you lying sack of shit.
I very clearly said, SEVERAL times, that it was medical malpratice. Why would I suggest someone be SUED for "murder", Moron?
If you didn't believe the physicians were culpible of intent to harm ... WHY would you want to sue the physicians?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241601 Nov 16, 2012
culpable

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241602 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
The ONLY time a fetus would have any importance to Bitner is if she wanted a baby.
Once out of the womb, the "baby" would be perceived as a divine link to the goddess in conjunction with Bitner's religious belief.
And because she WANTED the baby ... while it was growing in her womb, she would place HIGH value on the fetus.
We are indeed a selfish lot of animals.
You're lyinng again. You don't know what I think, and nothing in my posts have ever indicated such.

You're just deflecting, because I hit a nerve.

You're disgusting, and don't care about anything OTHER than your agenda.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241603 Nov 16, 2012
Through the centuries the popes preached about the divine value "god" places on fetuses.

I don't believe for one moment that those popes perceived the fetuses (for instance) in Muslim women were "divine."

NOT A CHANCE!!!

My guess is that as the Catholics were killing the Protestants and vice versa, they were not trying to protect fetuses in the women they perceived were the "enemies" of "god."

Humans often pride themselves as owning wisdom ... but history suggests ONLY ignorance and more ignorance.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241604 Nov 16, 2012
The study of religion makes it plain that leaders of cults are intent and often fickle in their quests to be perceived a "RIGHT."
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Muhammad and the Unfolding of Islam.

For quite a long time, Muhammad showed a certain sympathy toward the Christians:‘We are Christians,’ that, because some of them are priests and monks, and they wax not proud, and when they hear what has been sent down to the Messenger, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of the truth they recognize. They say:‘Our Lord, we believe, so do Thou write us down among the witnesses’”(5:85—90).

It was only after the conquest of Mecca, when he clashed with the resistance of the Syrian Christians, that Muhammad changed his attitude; of 9:29—35 (They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from God and the Messiah, Mary’s son—and they were commanded to serve but one God”[9:31]).

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241605 Nov 16, 2012
Note the word "authority."
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

From the book,“A History of Christianity”… volume 2 Clyde L. Manschreck, Editor, comes the following………

For better or for worse, Christianity was launched in the world. By the end of the second century it had a set and fluid authority—canon, creed, and clergy—

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241606 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If you didn't believe the physicians were culpible of intent to harm ... WHY would you want to sue the physicians?
What part of "for medical malpractice" is giving you so much trouble, Moron?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241607 Nov 16, 2012
And today the Christian and Muslim leaders of the cults are ONLY intent on the religious "conversion" of each other.

And to make matters even more ridicuous ... the Christians slander each other as offenders of god's will, while in Muslim countries, the Muslims slander each other as offenders of Allah's will.

And they call the ridiculous nonsense they promote as truth ... LOVE!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#241608 Nov 16, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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What part of "for medical malpractice" is giving you so much trouble, Moron?
You adore your special little phrases Bitner, but within the phrases is YOUR malpractise concerning DISHONESTY.

You are one of the most deceptive people I have ever encountered.

You can phrase it any way you desire ... but you believe the physicians intentionally caused her death ... which (if that were true) would be murder in the first degree!!!

Since: Sep 09

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#241609 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You adore your special little phrases Bitner, but within the phrases is YOUR malpractise concerning DISHONESTY.
You are one of the most deceptive people I have ever encountered.
You can phrase it any way you desire ... but you believe the physicians intentionally caused her death ... which (if that were true) would be murder in the first degree!!!
June, many malpractice suits do not involve premeditation.
I haven't read all of the current batch of posts, but I don't think Sis used the word "intentional".

Did you read the article in its entirety?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#241610 Nov 16, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You adore your special little phrases Bitner, but within the phrases is YOUR malpractise concerning DISHONESTY.
You are one of the most deceptive people I have ever encountered.
You can phrase it any way you desire ... but you believe the physicians intentionally caused her death ... which (if that were true) would be murder in the first degree!!!
No, that is not my position. The dishonesty is all yours.

My position is that they allowed her to die by deliberately NOT doing everything medically in their power to save her. That is not "murder", nor did I ever imply that it is. It is medical malpractice, and it is not my "special phrase". It's a legal and medical phrase, but I can see that it's yet ANOTHER phrase YOU are too stupid to use properly, or even understand.

You're a fricken moron.

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