Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

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No, his mental illness warped his religious beliefs. Just like your mental illness warps your beliefs, and turns them into bigotry.
It was a gradual decline, as for years he was a well-respected pastor.
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During this time, Jones also helped to integrate churches, restaurants, the telephone company, the police department, a theater, an amusement park, and the Methodist Hospital.[16] After swastikas were painted on the homes of two African American families, Jones personally walked the neighborhood comforting African Americans and counseling white families not to move, in order to prevent white flight.[22] He also set up stings to catch restaurants refusing to serve African American customers[22] and wrote to American Nazi leaders then leaked their responses to the media.[23] When Jones was accidentally placed in the black ward of a hospital after a collapse in 1961, he refused to be moved and began to make the beds, and empty the bed pans of black patients.[24] Political pressures resulting from Jones' actions caused hospital officials to desegregate the wards.[24]

Two years later, in 1961, the Joneses became the first white couple in Indiana to adopt a black child, James Warren Jones, Jr.[31] Marceline was once spat upon while she carried Jim Jr.[23]

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So, why did you leave Christ?
I merely left the RCC. Are you another like June who cannot understand that there is a difference between Divinity, and the religions formed AROUND Divinity?

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Your experiences are not everyone's. Many people are perfectly happy in the religion they grew up in. Many of them had positive experiences, and see no reason to change. I had a great childhood. I just stopped believing in the religion of my parents, that's all. It was not confusing, or traumatic in anyway.
My children are perfectly happy with the religion they grew up in. They see it as a positive thing, and see no reason to change. If they did, I'd have no problem with it, but they don't seem to want to be anything but Wiccan.
It's only your opinion that it's wrong to give children a religious foundation. And for some, it isn't a good thing. But that hardly proves that it's bad for all children. That's merely your bigotry talking.
It's wrong to give children the impression that you know what you don't know.

You don't know that you will reincarnate, but that is what you taught your children.

You don't know that a spirit or a soul even exists, much less to teach that the spirit of the goddess comes in to the baby at birth.

When you teach such nonsense, you are putting yourself up where you have no right to be.

NONE!

To be completely honest, you must admit that you don't know the answers ... PERIOD!

And that would mean, you could not BE a religious "teacher."

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It's wrong to give children the impression that you know what you don't know.
You don't know that you will reincarnate, but that is what you taught your children.
You don't know that a spirit or a soul even exists, much less to teach that the spirit of the goddess comes in to the baby at birth.
When you teach such nonsense, you are putting yourself up where you have no right to be.
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To be completely honest, you must admit that you don't know the answers ... PERIOD!
And that would mean, you could not BE a religious "teacher."
It is never wrong to teach a child what you believe.

A teacher of a particular religion, teaches that religion. The beliefs and practices of that religion. I have never claimed to know what I don't know.

You're also doing it again, wanting to say you have no answers, but you pretending to know what the answers are not, which amounts to the same thing.
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It was a gradual decline, as for years he was a well-respected pastor.
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During this time, Jones also helped to integrate churches, restaurants, the telephone company, the police department, a theater, an amusement park, and the Methodist Hospital.[16] After swastikas were painted on the homes of two African American families, Jones personally walked the neighborhood comforting African Americans and counseling white families not to move, in order to prevent white flight.[22] He also set up stings to catch restaurants refusing to serve African American customers[22] and wrote to American Nazi leaders then leaked their responses to the media.[23] When Jones was accidentally placed in the black ward of a hospital after a collapse in 1961, he refused to be moved and began to make the beds, and empty the bed pans of black patients.[24] Political pressures resulting from Jones' actions caused hospital officials to desegregate the wards.[24]
Two years later, in 1961, the Joneses became the first white couple in Indiana to adopt a black child, James Warren Jones, Jr.[31] Marceline was once spat upon while she carried Jim Jr.[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
As you know I believe in and worship God. speaking from that perspective, it seems to me that Jones' followers worshiped him, not God. They obviously would follow him anywhere and did.

People who put that much faith in other people will end up in trouble.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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It was a gradual decline, as for years he was a well-respected pastor.
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During this time, Jones also helped to integrate churches, restaurants, the telephone company, the police department, a theater, an amusement park, and the Methodist Hospital.[16] After swastikas were painted on the homes of two African American families, Jones personally walked the neighborhood comforting African Americans and counseling white families not to move, in order to prevent white flight.[22] He also set up stings to catch restaurants refusing to serve African American customers[22] and wrote to American Nazi leaders then leaked their responses to the media.[23] When Jones was accidentally placed in the black ward of a hospital after a collapse in 1961, he refused to be moved and began to make the beds, and empty the bed pans of black patients.[24] Political pressures resulting from Jones' actions caused hospital officials to desegregate the wards.[24]
Two years later, in 1961, the Joneses became the first white couple in Indiana to adopt a black child, James Warren Jones, Jr.[31] Marceline was once spat upon while she carried Jim Jr.[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
So? Did I SAY anything about the speed of it? No, I didn't not. He was still mentally ill, fast or slow, it matters not. It was the mental illness that warped his religious beliefs, not his religion that cause the mental illness.
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Now now Jumper ... be nice ... and don't forget to be faithful to your Christian god "who abhors you taking sides with a Wiccan witch."
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It's gratifying to be detested by followers of all religious cults, rather than just a few.
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I only take the side of a offended person,if their belife is questioned.
I don't care if they paint themselves blue and worship stop lights.

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The word theology means to study religion ... not to believe that one can graduate to teach religion as even a semblance of being based on truth.

That is simply arrogance!

Study limits people to the level "of" study ... period!

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Some day maybe people will understand that to indoctrinate children with their favorite religion was a terrible move in the wrong direction.
Just maybe.
I can tell you, that the pleasure I got from believing that a god was real, paled in comparison to the confusion I suffered from the other things preachers tried to put into my psyche.
I'm thankful now that they never were able to convince me that I was any more special than non-human forms of life.
VERY thankful indeed!
Ah, well, my kids were fortunate that way. Wicca doesn't teach that humans are more special than any other form of life.

Of course, I grew up Catholic, and was not the least bit traumatized by it. I just stopped believing it.

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As you know I believe in and worship God. speaking from that perspective, it seems to me that Jones' followers worshiped him, not God. They obviously would follow him anywhere and did.
People who put that much faith in other people will end up in trouble.
They believed he was teaching them truth.

That's the danger of religious belief.

People get caught up in the euphoric nonsense, and their minds begin to dwell in fantasies of grandeur.

No doubt you picture yourself in "heavenly bliss with Jesus."

Leaders of cults captivate your thinking by telling you what you DESIRE to hear.

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The word theology means to study religion ... not to believe that one can graduate to teach religion as even a semblance of being based on truth.
That is simply arrogance!
Study limits people to the level "of" study ... period!
Learning never stops. That doesn't mean that nothing has been learned along the way.

You're insane. You really are. The twists your mind has to take to come to these asinine conclusions proves it.

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Ah, well, my kids were fortunate that way. Wicca doesn't teach that humans are more special than any other form of life.
You teach that non-human animals only incarnate ONCE ... and humans incarnate many times.

You don't have a clue that what you are teaching has any basis concerning truth ... yet you are PROUD to be a teacher.

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Of course, I grew up Catholic, and was not the least bit traumatized by it. I just stopped believing it.
Of course you stopped believing it, or you wouldn't have left it.

And you stopped believing it because it didn't please your desires. In other words they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

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<quoted text>I only take the side of a offended person,if their belife is questioned.
I don't care if they paint themselves blue and worship stop lights.
Yeah....I don't know any Pagans who paint themselves blue. I think that kind of went out of fashion around the time of King Arthur. Unless of course they're sports fans, and their favorite team's colors include blue :)

As for stop lights, well I AM rather fond of the green ones, but I wouldn't say I worship them. Although, now that I think about it, I DO pray to see them, lol.

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Learning never stops. That doesn't mean that nothing has been learned along the way.
You're insane. You really are. The twists your mind has to take to come to these asinine conclusions proves it.
Theology means to "study" religion ... not to teach religion.

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Bitner would never have been a Catholic nun. And she couldn't be a Catholic priest.

Wicca allows Bitner to preach and that makes her feel the same type of power that Billy Graham felt when he held the bible in front of others and they looked up to him as being filled with "the DIVINE."

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You teach that non-human animals only incarnate ONCE ... and humans incarnate many times.
You don't have a clue that what you are teaching has any basis concerning truth ... yet you are PROUD to be a teacher.
June, why do you bother asking me questions when you just forget or ignore my answers.

The fact that the Spirits of other life forms (not just animals, either) don't have to incarnate more than once, is NOT because humans are "more special". Damn, woman, YOU are the one who seems to believe it's a PUNISHMENT that humans Spirits would have to reincarnate. And NOW you're trying to pretend it's what, a REWARD for being "more special" than any other life form?

Do you even KNOW what you're arguing about? You are just taking an opposing position to me, JUST because I'm religious, and you're stupidly contradicting yourself to do so.

You're dumb as a box of hair. Seriously.

Yes, I AM proud, of ALL my accomplishments. There is nothing wrong with that. Again, I'm sorry you have no accomplishments to be proud of, but that's not my fault.

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Of course you stopped believing it, or you wouldn't have left it.
And you stopped believing it because it didn't please your desires. In other words they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.
LOL, June.

I stopped believing because it made no sense. How is that any different from YOU when YOU stopped believing? How?

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Theology means to "study" religion ... not to teach religion.
I'm not a theologian.
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They believed he was teaching them truth.
That's the danger of religious belief.
People get caught up in the euphoric nonsense, and their minds begin to dwell in fantasies of grandeur.
No doubt you picture yourself in "heavenly bliss with Jesus."
Leaders of cults captivate your thinking by telling you what you DESIRE to hear.
I am going to give myself an A for trying to explain. Some just can't comprehend.

They worshiped JIM JONES.

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