Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

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She's promoting the very same thing you do, to treat others as you want to be treated. What a hypocrite you are.
But I'm not "selling" it as a religion ... and she IS!!!

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Context, like so much else, escapes you.
You stated "everything" as "affirmative.

That IS the context of your posts.

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I wonder if Starhawk thought she was a bully when she posted the following against another woman who considers herself a "credible witch?"

When the claws come out, it shows the person as not being quite so "all that."
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Real witchcraft deserves respect --not O'Donnell's dabbling

Whatever Christine O'Donnell may have dabbled in, it wasn't Witchcraft.

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But I'm not "selling" it as a religion ... and she IS!!!
Wrong. She's talking about her religion in an editorial. That IS what you've been quoting. I know you probably didn't realize that, as you just skimmed as usual, looking for something to whine about.

You're a hypocrite, promoting Atheism while whining that others talking about their own beliefs, self-righteously implying you are somehow better than others because you say you treat others the way you want to be treated, yet whining when someone who is religious promotes the same thing.

You're a fraud.

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You stated "everything" as "affirmative.
That IS the context of your posts.
No, it is not the context of those conversations.

More to the point, in the last, she WAS wrong. As I've explained at least a dozen times. I was making the point that there are many Gods that people believe in, so to say there is only one, is incorrect. At least I began, but since she never replied back, the conversation went no further. I'm sorry you are unable to understand that, but it IS what I was saying.

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I wonder if Starhawk thought she was a bully when she posted the following against another woman who considers herself a "credible witch?"
When the claws come out, it shows the person as not being quite so "all that."
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Real witchcraft deserves respect --not O'Donnell's dabbling
Whatever Christine O'Donnell may have dabbled in, it wasn't Witchcraft.
By Starhawk | September 21, 2010; 08:04 PM ET | Comments (18)
Stating facts is not "bullying". And yes, we've found another word you don't understand. No surprise.

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You're a hypocrite, promoting Atheism while whining that others talking about their own beliefs
You stated in the affirmative that I am an Agnostic.

Did you get that wrong?

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Wrong. She's talking about her religion in an editorial. That IS what you've been quoting.
Those were "her" words in the editorial ... not mine.
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I wonder if Starhawk thought she was a bully when she posted the following against another woman who considers herself a "credible witch?"
When the claws come out, it shows the person as not being quite so "all that."
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Real witchcraft deserves respect --not O'Donnell's dabbling
Whatever Christine O'Donnell may have dabbled in, it wasn't Witchcraft.
By Starhawk | September 21, 2010; 08:04 PM ET | Comments (18)
All that witch stuff should be left to an old pro like you.
These kids don't know nothing these days.

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On this I agree with Miriam.
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We need a different measure of strength
Is there such a thing as a 'just war'? The problem with that question is that when we answer 'yes', we end up in a world where there is 'just war'--just war as an ultimate solution to every problem, whether it be terrorists, international diplomacy, drugs in our streets or bugs in our gardens.
By Starhawk | December 21, 2009; 04:32 PM ET | Comments (4)

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/pa...

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You stated in the affirmative that I am an Agnostic.
Did you get that wrong?
Not based on what you were saying at THAT time. Since then, you have admitted to proselytizing for Atheism.

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Miriam forgot to mention the "just war" of religion.

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Stating facts is not "bullying".
So when the Christians state that their god is offended by homosexuality, and Miriam states that the goddess is NOT offended by homosexuality ... who are to believe Bitner?

Are the Christians using their religion to bully those who are gay?

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Those were "her" words in the editorial ... not mine.
Of COURSE they were her words. When did I say otherwise?

The fact is that she was promoting the very same thing you always do, in an EDITORIAL about her religion. She was not "selling" religion, she was espousing the concept behind the Golden Rule.

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No, it is not the context of those conversations.
Yes it was. You were just as insistent that your religion was right, as were the Christians.

Being right about your religions WAS the context.

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Not based on what you were saying at THAT time. Since then, you have admitted to proselytizing for Atheism.
My beliefs have not changed one iota since I left religion entirely.

I don't believe in gods of any human creation, but I still keep open to the idea that awareness might continue for all living entities after death of physical bodies.

However, as I can't read the future ... I simply don't know the answers to mysteries.

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Miriam forgot to mention the "just war" of religion.
What difference does that make as her point is that there IS no such thing as a "just war"?

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So when the Christians state that their god is offended by homosexuality, and Miriam states that the goddess is NOT offended by homosexuality ... who are to believe Bitner?
Are the Christians using their religion to bully those who are gay?
Some of them do, yes.

And frankly, I don't care WHICH religion you believe on the subject.

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Of COURSE they were her words. When did I say otherwise?
The fact is that she was promoting the very same thing you always do, in an EDITORIAL about her religion. She was not "selling" religion, she was espousing the concept behind the Golden Rule.
She's a Wiccan witch and she's selling her ideas in her many books ... BIG TIME. This is from the same site.
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Co-founder, Reclaiming StarhawkStarhawk is a prominent voice in modern Wiccan spirituality and cofounder of reclaiming.org , an activist branch of modern Pagan religion, and author of ten books.

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Yes it was. You were just as insistent that your religion was right, as were the Christians.
Being right about your religions WAS the context.
No, it was not.

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