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Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237714 Oct 9, 2012
On this I agree with Miriam.
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We need a different measure of strength
Is there such a thing as a 'just war'? The problem with that question is that when we answer 'yes', we end up in a world where there is 'just war'--just war as an ultimate solution to every problem, whether it be terrorists, international diplomacy, drugs in our streets or bugs in our gardens.
By Starhawk | December 21, 2009; 04:32 PM ET | Comments (4)

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/pa...

“Blessed Be”

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#237715 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You stated in the affirmative that I am an Agnostic.
Did you get that wrong?
Not based on what you were saying at THAT time. Since then, you have admitted to proselytizing for Atheism.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237716 Oct 9, 2012
Miriam forgot to mention the "just war" of religion.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237717 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Stating facts is not "bullying".
So when the Christians state that their god is offended by homosexuality, and Miriam states that the goddess is NOT offended by homosexuality ... who are to believe Bitner?

Are the Christians using their religion to bully those who are gay?

“Blessed Be”

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#237718 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Those were "her" words in the editorial ... not mine.
Of COURSE they were her words. When did I say otherwise?

The fact is that she was promoting the very same thing you always do, in an EDITORIAL about her religion. She was not "selling" religion, she was espousing the concept behind the Golden Rule.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237719 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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No, it is not the context of those conversations.
Yes it was. You were just as insistent that your religion was right, as were the Christians.

Being right about your religions WAS the context.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237720 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Not based on what you were saying at THAT time. Since then, you have admitted to proselytizing for Atheism.
My beliefs have not changed one iota since I left religion entirely.

I don't believe in gods of any human creation, but I still keep open to the idea that awareness might continue for all living entities after death of physical bodies.

However, as I can't read the future ... I simply don't know the answers to mysteries.

“Blessed Be”

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#237721 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
Miriam forgot to mention the "just war" of religion.
What difference does that make as her point is that there IS no such thing as a "just war"?

“Blessed Be”

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#237722 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So when the Christians state that their god is offended by homosexuality, and Miriam states that the goddess is NOT offended by homosexuality ... who are to believe Bitner?
Are the Christians using their religion to bully those who are gay?
Some of them do, yes.

And frankly, I don't care WHICH religion you believe on the subject.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237723 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Of COURSE they were her words. When did I say otherwise?
The fact is that she was promoting the very same thing you always do, in an EDITORIAL about her religion. She was not "selling" religion, she was espousing the concept behind the Golden Rule.
She's a Wiccan witch and she's selling her ideas in her many books ... BIG TIME. This is from the same site.
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Co-founder, Reclaiming StarhawkStarhawk is a prominent voice in modern Wiccan spirituality and cofounder of reclaiming.org , an activist branch of modern Pagan religion, and author of ten books.

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/pa...

“Blessed Be”

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#237724 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Yes it was. You were just as insistent that your religion was right, as were the Christians.
Being right about your religions WAS the context.
No, it was not.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237725 Oct 9, 2012
I'm not in a religion, and I don't bully those who are gay.

Miraim Simos uses a goddess to claim that the goddess looks favorably on sex. She makes money by those lies.

Big difference.

“Blessed Be”

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#237726 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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My beliefs have not changed one iota since I left religion entirely.
I don't believe in gods of any human creation, but I still keep open to the idea that awareness might continue for all living entities after death of physical bodies.
However, as I can't read the future ... I simply don't know the answers to mysteries.
LOL, June, you have made contradictory statements about your beliefs. That was one of those times.

If you weren't so busy trying to backpedal from the fact that you DO pretend to "know the mysteries" by saying that people who are religious are wrong/lying/deluded, you wouldn't have to worry about someone mislabelling you due to the confusion caused by your own words.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237727 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Some of them do, yes.
And frankly, I don't care WHICH religion you believe on the subject.
So shall I protect the Christians that use the bible to bully those who are gay.

After all, if you want your religion protected, I must also defend the rights of the Christians that use their bibles to bully those who are gay. RIGHT Bitner?

If you don't care what I believe, then why are you arguing with me??? Oh I understand ... it's because I lie and you don't.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237728 Oct 9, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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No, it was not.
YES IT WAS!!!! NA NA NA NA NA NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sticking out my tongue...

:)

You're a lot of fun Bitner.

“Blessed Be”

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#237729 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
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She's a Wiccan witch and she's selling her ideas in her many books ... BIG TIME. This is from the same site.
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Co-founder, Reclaiming StarhawkStarhawk is a prominent voice in modern Wiccan spirituality and cofounder of reclaiming.org , an activist branch of modern Pagan religion, and author of ten books.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/pa...
It's the bio. So? She's not selling anything in the editorials you've been quoting. Again, you'd have known that if you were actually reading, instead of skimming to find something to whine about.

Twelve books, actually, and three of them are novels.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237730 Oct 9, 2012
Being a REAL witch must be something to strive for.

I wish I knew what an unreal witch is. Maybe Bitner knows.

What is a REAL witch Bitner?

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237731 Oct 9, 2012
The True Spirit of Halloween, for Real Witches

For real Witches, Halloween has a deeper, spiritual meaning. This is the season when we honor the ancestors, mourn those who have died this year, and celebrate life.

By Starhawk | October 29, 2009; 12:08 PM ET | Comments (57)

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/pa...

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#237732 Oct 9, 2012
So if Starhawk says the goddess approves of sex ... is she right, or is she just playing at being a goddess by speaking on behalf of a supposed goddess?

“Blessed Be”

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#237733 Oct 9, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
I'm not in a religion, and I don't bully those who are gay.
Miraim Simos uses a goddess to claim that the goddess looks favorably on sex. She makes money by those lies.
Big difference.
No, no difference at all. You're BOTH promoting the concept of treating others the way you want to be treated.

PROVE she's lying about how the Goddess feels toward sex.

See, this is what I'm talking about. YOU claim to know that what she's saying is a lie, while complaining about other's beliefs, and they YOU lie and say you "don't know the mysteries". Claiming to know what they're NOT is no different from claiming to know what they are.

You're a fraud.

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