Catholic Church Waging War on Women a...

Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

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“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241417 Nov 14, 2012
Peaches wrote:
<quoted text>LOL I agreed.
Hahahahahaha

When Peaches and Bitner agree ... there are many lies that both of them are hiding in their quest to PROVE religion is of great value to humanity!

What both of them REALLY mean is that ONLY their OWN religious cults are of great value to humanity!

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241418 Nov 14, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You Moron. They allowed a woman to die, due to their beliefs, when the law allowed abortion to save her. They didn't just express a belief. Yes, they should be sued.
Damn, you're dumb as a box of hair. And the truly pathetic part is that you'd agree with that statement, if only it hadn't come from me. Now THAT is foolish.
How do you know the laws didn't support them?

God has always been the law according to Catholics. And if those in the hospital in power believed the abortion was "maybe" not life-threatening, according to "god," they would try to please their "god" ...just as Gerald Gardner tried to please his homophobic goddess by stating that she curses homosexuals.

In religion, pleasing the deities ALWAYS comes first to the most "faithful" of believers.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241419 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahahahaha
When Peaches and Bitner agree ... there are many lies that both of them are hiding in their quest to PROVE religion is of great value to humanity!
What both of them REALLY mean is that ONLY their OWN religious cults are of great value to humanity!
:)
I do not lie, and am hiding no lies.

I did not mention my religion at all, Liar. I said what I REALLY meant.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241420 Nov 14, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You Moron. They allowed a woman to die, due to their beliefs, when the law allowed abortion to save her. They didn't just express a belief. Yes, they should be sued.
Damn, you're dumb as a box of hair. And the truly pathetic part is that you'd agree with that statement, if only it hadn't come from me. Now THAT is foolish.
Maybe many Catholics still believe the following. And you wouldn't want to insult their beliefs ... would you Bitner, as we all understand that you are VERY respectful of the Catholic beliefs! Sarcasm intended!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

From the book,“ABORTION IN AMERICA,” the origins and evolution of national policy, by James C. Mohr, comes the following…………….

“The murder of an infant before its birth is, in the sight of God and his Church, as great a crime, as would be the killing of a child after birth…. No mother is allowed, under any circumstances, to permit the death of her unborn infant, not even for the sake of preserving her own life.”
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241421 Nov 14, 2012
Peaches wrote:
<quoted text>LOL I agreed.
You DO realize that Bitner's goddess and your god Jehovah are at total odds in concern with abortion AND homosexuality ... don't you Peaches???

:)

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241422 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know the laws didn't support them?
God has always been the law according to Catholics. And if those in the hospital in power believed the abortion was "maybe" not life-threatening, according to "god," they would try to please their "god" ...just as Gerald Gardner tried to please his homophobic goddess by stating that she curses homosexuals.
In religion, pleasing the deities ALWAYS comes first to the most "faithful" of believers.
Because the law doesn't support their position. The article said so, and I looked up the laws. I know, because I read the article, and did the research myself.

Gardner has nothing to do with this, Fraud. DO try to address what is actually being said.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241423 Nov 14, 2012
I don't know WHY Svaha lets Bitner carry the "load" most of the time, and just pops in periodically to refer to DayStorm and I as "extremists" but maybe Svaha is often "entertained" elsewhere!

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241424 Nov 14, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Because the law doesn't support their position. The article said so, and I looked up the laws. I know, because I read the article, and did the research myself.
Gardner has nothing to do with this, Fraud. DO try to address what is actually being said.
God's law comes FIRST with many Catholics ... just as Gardner's law came first concerning the law of his goddess.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241425 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe many Catholics still believe the following. And you wouldn't want to insult their beliefs ... would you Bitner, as we all understand that you are VERY respectful of the Catholic beliefs! Sarcasm intended!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
From the book,“ABORTION IN AMERICA,” the origins and evolution of national policy, by James C. Mohr, comes the following…………….
“The murder of an infant before its birth is, in the sight of God and his Church, as great a crime, as would be the killing of a child after birth…. No mother is allowed, under any circumstances, to permit the death of her unborn infant, not even for the sake of preserving her own life.”
Their personal beliefs were not the issue, Moron.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241426 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
God's law comes FIRST with many Catholics ... just as Gardner's law came first concerning the law of his goddess.
Not in a medical setting when a person's life is at stake, Moron.

Again, you'd agree if it wasn't for the fact that it's me saying it. You've said it yourself, many times that you want women to be safe. You're only disagreeing because it's me, and that is the epitome of foolishness on your part.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241427 Nov 14, 2012
Being that Gardner stated the goddess curses homosexuals, I wonder how the goddess intended to punish them.

Gardner was not specific as were those in other religions that state for a fact that unrepentant homosexuals will burn in hell for eternity.

I guess Gardner forgot to "express" that part of his theology.

Now we'll never know what the REAL goddess of Wicca intends as punishment concerning her ongoing curse against homosexuals!!!

What a shame to leave us hanging in "limbo!"

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241428 Nov 14, 2012
Today there are still many Christians that want homosexuals put to death. And in some countries they are still PUT to death ... thanks to religion.

And as Gerald Gardner "the father of Wicca" didn't speak out against the practise, but instead joined in to claim that even his goddess curses homosexuals, it seems that he was in favor OF the practise.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241429 Nov 14, 2012
The pope believes, although he is homophobic, he is beloved by the "great god."

Gerald Gardner, although also homophobic, believed he was beloved by the "great goddess."

Silly people and their silly fantasies ... carry on the silly traditions of the ancients.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

In 2007, a new plaque was attached to his grave, describing him as being "Father of Modern Wicca. Beloved of the Great Goddess".[162]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner_ (Wiccan)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241431 Nov 14, 2012
As there were many goddesses worshipped throughout history, I wonder which ones Gerald would have believed were NOT great!

It seems he "lumped" all the goddesses into one and came up with his own "solution."

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241432 Nov 14, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in a medical setting when a person's life is at stake, Moron.
Worship of gods or goddesses often come ahead of common sense.

Many children have been deprived of health care by religious parents and died as a result.

And the practise continues today.

It's nothing unusual whatsoever to put religious beliefs FIRST.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241433 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Worship of gods or goddesses often come ahead of common sense.
Many children have been deprived of health care by religious parents and died as a result.
And the practise continues today.
It's nothing unusual whatsoever to put religious beliefs FIRST.
No, they broke the law by telling her she couldn't have an abortion when the law says it was allowed.

Again, you'd be agreeing, except it's me saying it. That's because you're a fraud.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241434 Nov 14, 2012
I don't wonder that physicians indoctrinated by Catholic faith find it VERY difficult to perform abortion, even when the lives of women "are" at stake.

After all, they were/are taught that abortion is murder, and to a Catholic THAT is a serious issue indeed.

Bitner brushes the issue off lightly as she doesn't believe abortion IS murder, or even that fetuses are able to feel pain.

She wasn't indoctrinated that way in her Catholic upbringing ... but she chose to leave that indoctrination for another more "pleasing" religion, and she did it by "CHOICE."

Wicca is a religion for easy-goers! The remodelled goddess doesn't judge any body for anything. She leaves it up to the believers to decide what they WANT to believe.

But I understand that it's not so easy for "faithful" Catholics to just sluff their indoctrination off as of no importance to them!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241435 Nov 14, 2012
Doctor Morgentaler understood that physicians in the Christian religion found it easier to send women who wanted abortions to him rather than to perform abortions themselves.

Doctor Morgentaler didn't want to perform abortions either ... but he knew that if he didn't, more and more women were going to die from botched abortions.

He took the brunt of being called a murderer, while the Christian physicians who had sent women to doctor Morgentaler hid (to the best of their ability) although some were exposed as double-dealers in the court trials.

It's often human nature to let other take the fall!

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#241436 Nov 14, 2012
June VanDerMark wrote:
I don't wonder that physicians indoctrinated by Catholic faith find it VERY difficult to perform abortion, even when the lives of women "are" at stake.
After all, they were/are taught that abortion is murder, and to a Catholic THAT is a serious issue indeed.
Bitner brushes the issue off lightly as she doesn't believe abortion IS murder, or even that fetuses are able to feel pain.
She wasn't indoctrinated that way in her Catholic upbringing ... but she chose to leave that indoctrination for another more "pleasing" religion, and she did it by "CHOICE."
Wicca is a religion for easy-goers! The remodelled goddess doesn't judge any body for anything. She leaves it up to the believers to decide what they WANT to believe.
But I understand that it's not so easy for "faithful" Catholics to just sluff their indoctrination off as of no importance to them!
My religion has nothing to do with this. Do try to stay on the actual topic. They allowed a woman to die, in direct contradiction to the law. They deserve to be sued.

And YOU would agree, if it wasn't ME saying so. So save your false compassion. It's not fooling anyone, Fraud.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#241437 Nov 14, 2012
From the book “Morgentaler … The doctor who couldn’t turn away … by Eleanor Wright Pelrine, Published 1975 … comes the following ………

“You are a mass murderer, and the innocent you have killed will also get their revenge, for the soul lives on, and God is not mocked! You too will die like Hitler, and be remembered for your murders!”

And scrawled on Toronto’s Carlton Street, across a bill posted to advertise a Morgentaler’s defense meeting:

THIS JEW KILLS WHITE BABIES

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