Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism

Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism

There are 123 comments on the WFLA-AM Tampa story from Dec 16, 2013, titled Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism. In it, WFLA-AM Tampa reports that:

It's official, the gays have finally killed capitalism. And freedom. In a segment titled, "The Death of Free Enterprise," the plight of one poor Colorado baker who was just told by a judge that his "religious freedom" does not give him the right to refuse to sell a cake to a same sex couple for their wedding.

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Sir Andrew

Honolulu, HI

#1 Dec 16, 2013
If anything we do was going to kill capitalism, I would imagine it smothering under the massive amounts of money we pile on it annually.
Deja vu all over Again

Alpharetta, GA

#2 Dec 16, 2013
Less than 60 years ago black people were not allowed to eat in white people's restaurants because of hate discrimination fueled by religion
http://urbanhabitat.org/files/images/2.c%20na...
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This gave rise to the public accommodation laws that protect today's gays from hate discrimination fueled by religion
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Perhaps the Colorado baker wasn't born then and is unaware of the law
david traversa

Argentina

#3 Dec 16, 2013
Deja vu all over Again wrote:
Less than 60 years ago black people were not allowed to eat in white people's restaurants because of hate discrimination fueled by religion
http://urbanhabitat.org/files/images/2.c%20na...
.
This gave rise to the public accommodation laws that protect today's gays from hate discrimination fueled by religion
.
Perhaps the Colorado baker wasn't born then and is unaware of the law
He's probably unaware of many things he should be very aware of .. but isn't that always the case with bigots ?
Sir Andrew

Honolulu, HI

#4 Dec 16, 2013
Deja vu all over Again wrote:
Less than 60 years ago black people were not allowed to eat in white people's restaurants because of hate discrimination fueled by religion
http://urbanhabitat.org/files/images/2.c%20na...
.
This gave rise to the public accommodation laws that protect today's gays from hate discrimination fueled by religion
.
Perhaps the Colorado baker wasn't born then and is unaware of the law
I suspect he was alive then (I've seen his pic; he's not a spring chicken). The problem is that he was eventually born AGAIN. And for him all the rules changed. Man's laws became secondary to the laws of his god. He became, in other words, a moron.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#5 Dec 16, 2013
It's not surprising to see this was a Fox "News" segment. And so soon after one of their other bimbos assured everyone that Santa and Jesus were white. Anything to keep their bigoted audience riled up and tuned in.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#6 Dec 16, 2013
Somebody should ask how to draw the line between rank discrimination and practicing religion. I would submit that none of the following amount to a practice of religion (or art, or whatever you want to hide your bigotry behind).

1) Arranging flowers.
2) Baking cakes.
3) Catering a ceremony.
4) Renting tables and chairs.
5) Cleaning the function hall.
6) Selling a "best wishes" or "congratulations" banner.
7) Renting a limousine.
8) Driving a limousine.
9) Renting tuxedos.
10) Renting a honeymoon suite.
11) Hosting a rehearsal party.
12) Serving an anniversary dinner.
13) Providing goods or services to an anniversary celebration.
14) Selling a house to a same-sex couple.
15) Selling a car to a same-sex couple.
16) Renting an apartment to a same-sex couple.
17) Serving lunch to a same-sex couple.
18) Selling groceries to a same-sex couple.
19) Selling clothes to a same-sex couple.
20) Selling opera tickets to a same-sex couple.
21) Delivering a singing telegram to the same-sex spouse of the birthday boy.
22) Delivering Valentine's Day flowers to a same-sex spouse.
23) Selling an "I Love You" balloon intended for a same-sex fiancee.
24) Delivering Mother's Day flowers to a same-sex spouse.
25) Selling "It's a Boy" announcements to a same-sex couple.

The same logic which Fox thinks allows the baker to refuse service to the couple would also allow refusal of any of the other services.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#7 Dec 16, 2013
Wake up, America! Be aware - ideas have consequences. "Gay marriage" is an idea that is fraught with consequences. Luckily, these lawsuits give a clear glimpse of the future. The way to stop it is to stop "gay marriage." No "gay marriage" - no gay wedding cakes. If gay people were smart, they would insist that the rights of people of faith be protected. They are too blinded by their own wants and desires to be smart.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#8 Dec 16, 2013
Chance wrote:
Wake up, America! Be aware - ideas have consequences. "Gay marriage" is an idea that is fraught with consequences. Luckily, these lawsuits give a clear glimpse of the future. The way to stop it is to stop "gay marriage." No "gay marriage" - no gay wedding cakes. If gay people were smart, they would insist that the rights of people of faith be protected. They are too blinded by their own wants and desires to be smart.
What would you know about being smart, SniKKKers? You post an anti-gay "wake-up" message but are apparently too stupid to realize you've chosen the least receptive audience. Do you really think anyone here is going to decide to abandon marriage equality in favor of protecting religious superstition? Obviously, you're too blinded by your own wants and desires to be smart.

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#9 Dec 16, 2013
I am a supporter of GLBT equality.The headline "Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism" is of course over the top nonsense, but the article has some valid points. I'm not sure what the solution is here.

I don't think it's right to legally force private businesses to provide products or services to people if they don't want to, regardless of their reasons. We can't legislate people out of being prejudiced or bigoted, and some of this is built right into religions.

If I own a store or something, I think I should reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

In America freedom means freedom to be ignorant bigoted assholes. Let him put a sign in his window, "No gay wedding cakes, but you queers are allowed to buy anything else we sell."

Why in the world would we want to give our business to someone like this anyway? I'm sure you can find a gay friendly baker somewhere.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#10 Dec 16, 2013
Tre H wrote:
Why in the world would we want to give our business to someone like this anyway? I'm sure you can find a gay friendly baker somewhere.
Separate is never equal
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#11 Dec 16, 2013
Chance wrote:
Wake up, America! Be aware - ideas have consequences. "Gay marriage" is an idea that is fraught with consequences. Luckily, these lawsuits give a clear glimpse of the future. The way to stop it is to stop "gay marriage." No "gay marriage" - no gay wedding cakes. If gay people were smart, they would insist that the rights of people of faith be protected. They are too blinded by their own wants and desires to be smart.
'People of faith' started this war
.
'People of faith' can end this war
.
or lose their sorry homophobic butts
.
Capiche?
Franz

Denmark

#12 Dec 16, 2013
Tre H wrote:
I am a supporter of GLBT equality.The headline "Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism" is of course over the top nonsense, but the article has some valid points. I'm not sure what the solution is here.

Why in the world would we want to give our business to someone like this anyway? I'm sure you can find a gay friendly baker somewhere.
Thank you!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#13 Dec 16, 2013
Franz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you!
Why?

Are you a gay-friendly baker?

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#14 Dec 16, 2013
Tre H wrote:
......
I don't think it's right to legally force private businesses to provide products or services to people if they don't want to, regardless of their reasons. We can't legislate people out of being prejudiced or bigoted, and some of this is built right into religions.
If I own a store or something, I think I should reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
........
But as a society, we have decided that no citizen should be turned away from business after business until they find the one that serves "their kind". We do this because we don't want to be humiliated this way ourselves, and don't believe that others should suffer this way, in our free country. We have chosen to ban the practice of posting on the door of an public accommodation, the sorts of people who are unwelcome in that place of business.

As a society, we do not believe in signs that read;

No blacks allowed.
Whites only.
No Jews.
Homosexuals not welcome.

ANY business owner who opens shop needs to follow the laws that prevent such things, or suffer the consequences. If they can't in good conscience treat all law abiding customers equally, then they need to find another line of work.

It's just that simple.
Chad

UK

#16 Dec 16, 2013
Tre H wrote:
I am a supporter of GLBT equality.The headline "Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism" is of course over the top nonsense, but the article has some valid points. I'm not sure what the solution is here.
I don't think it's right to legally force private businesses to provide products or services to people if they don't want to, regardless of their reasons. We can't legislate people out of being prejudiced or bigoted, and some of this is built right into religions.
If I own a store or something, I think I should reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
In America freedom means freedom to be ignorant bigoted assholes. Let him put a sign in his window, "No gay wedding cakes, but you queers are allowed to buy anything else we sell."
Why in the world would we want to give our business to someone like this anyway? I'm sure you can find a gay friendly baker somewhere.
Best post of the day! Spot on!
Chad

UK

#17 Dec 16, 2013
If I go to a bakery and the sign reads "We Don't Serve Rich, Handsome, Well-built, Heterosexual Men With Large Pen!ses", I'll go to another bakery.

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#18 Dec 16, 2013
Tre H wrote:
I am a supporter of GLBT equality.The headline "Gay Rights Has Killed Capitalism" is of course over the top nonsense, but the article has some valid points. I'm not sure what the solution is here.
I don't think it's right to legally force private businesses to provide products or services to people if they don't want to, regardless of their reasons. We can't legislate people out of being prejudiced or bigoted, and some of this is built right into religions.
If I own a store or something, I think I should reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
In America freedom means freedom to be ignorant bigoted assholes. Let him put a sign in his window, "No gay wedding cakes, but you queers are allowed to buy anything else we sell."
Why in the world would we want to give our business to someone like this anyway? I'm sure you can find a gay friendly baker somewhere.
Tre, the Colorado baker isn't running a private club. He is operating in a society. He obtained a license from the local government to run a business open to the general public. He expects the local government to provide police, fire, water, sewage, and zoning protection. As citizens, we all help to pay for those services, and each citizen is (and should be) entitled to go into shops and stores open to the general public with the expectation that they will be served.

If the Colorado baker doesn't like that, he can close his shop to the general public and run a private club. There he can discriminate to his little tiny heart's content.
Pepper

Chesapeake, OH

#19 Dec 16, 2013
GoldenGator wrote:
It's not surprising to see this was a Fox "News" segment. And so soon after one of their other bimbos assured everyone that Santa and Jesus were white. Anything to keep their bigoted audience riled up and tuned in.
Hey sh!teater, they are white. Get over it, you pathetic fagg@t.
Pepper

Chesapeake, OH

#20 Dec 16, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>'People of faith' started this war
.
'People of faith' can end this war
.
or lose their sorry homophobic butts
.
Capiche?
Rainbow sh!teater, get your nasty a:ss back in the closet.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#21 Dec 16, 2013
The question we should be asking these folk is just what laws do they imagine anyone's God should be able to excuse their violating? Is it just anti-discrimination law that you can give the finger to or does the practicing what you preach exception cover everything you do? I mean, people do kill in the name of Gods all the time, does this right of religious liberty extend to that too? Tamerlan Tsarnaev was merely practicing what was preached to him. If you are going to believe in the freedom of religion, isn't it the freedom of EVERY religion?

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