Hate for gays is endemic - and evil

Hate for gays is endemic - and evil

There are 7221 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 2, 2007, titled Hate for gays is endemic - and evil. In it, Newsday reports that:

Dear straight people: Why do you hate gay people so much? Gays are hated. Prove me wrong.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

What the heck

East Lansing, MI

#8371 Jun 11, 2012
DebJ wrote:
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I'm glad you have your life right in regards to alcohol. Now all you need is some education. You need to get your facts straight in regards to the homosexual ORIENTATION....that's all.
No one is 'trapped' in a lifestyle and no one can be indoctrinated, period. I can give you links to the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association who have thoroughly studied this from both the physical and emotional standpoint. But only if you are willing to learn.
Many rightwing Christians have set themselves to be the gay KKK (nice phrase, mind if I borrow it?). If you are not one of those, you have my apology.
BTW, none of my grandchildren think I'm a mean old witch;0)
The whole point is that I have gay friends, but I don't get close, yet I do care, but I care for their soul, not enabling them to continue in sin. It's what I believe! Why the heck can't you see what I am saying?? Read it, right here: I CARE, I CARE, I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE, BUT I WILL NOT EMBRACE THE LIFESTYLE! Did you see it??? Did you see what I just said you blind sons a guns!! Unbelievable! It's what most of all us Christians are trying to say, but you have this satanic blindness going one here... it's mind boggling..... you don't want to give up the lifestyle I guess, or your afraid of getting fired or blackballed......(if you balls aren't black and blue already from playing pool with your buddy!) C'mon, open your mind and heart and entertain the idea that it's not normal to be gay, but God loves you anyway!!!
ToOldtorun

Cookeville, TN

#8372 Jun 11, 2012
What the heck wrote:
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The whole point is that I have gay friends, but I don't get close, yet I do care, but I care for their soul, not enabling them to continue in sin. It's what I believe! Why the heck can't you see what I am saying?? Read it, right here: I CARE, I CARE, I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE, BUT I WILL NOT EMBRACE THE LIFESTYLE! Did you see it??? Did you see what I just said you blind sons a guns!! Unbelievable! It's what most of all us Christians are trying to say, but you have this satanic blindness going one here... it's mind boggling..... you don't want to give up the lifestyle I guess, or your afraid of getting fired or blackballed......(if you balls aren't black and blue already from playing pool with your buddy!) C'mon, open your mind and heart and entertain the idea that it's not normal to be gay, but God loves you anyway!!!
If you support for them to do this, then you have no Christian values.

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#8373 Jun 12, 2012
What the heck wrote:
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The whole point is that I have gay friends, but I don't get close, yet I do care, but I care for their soul, not enabling them to continue in sin. It's what I believe! Why the heck can't you see what I am saying?? Read it, right here: I CARE, I CARE, I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE, BUT I WILL NOT EMBRACE THE LIFESTYLE! Did you see it??? Did you see what I just said you blind sons a guns!! Unbelievable! It's what most of all us Christians are trying to say, but you have this satanic blindness going one here... it's mind boggling..... you don't want to give up the lifestyle I guess, or your afraid of getting fired or blackballed......(if you balls aren't black and blue already from playing pool with your buddy!) C'mon, open your mind and heart and entertain the idea that it's not normal to be gay, but God loves you anyway!!!
Ahhh, just another ignorant unregistered troll. You seemed halfway human at first. You can't really care when you don't bother to understand WTF is going on. Keep squawking like a parrot, you are

dismissed.
Reality

Barre, VT

#8374 Jun 12, 2012
DebJ wrote:
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Yet gay people reproduce
just not together and as a marital unit...
a gay marriage ALWAYS requires a third party to reproduce...

you are free to think gays are like blacks, but most sane people don't see a connection between marriage rights and SLAVERY.
including the courts.

blacks are a "suspect class"...
"Second, to create such a new suspect classification for same-sex relationships would have far-reaching implications—in particular, by implying an overruling of Baker, which we are neither empowered to do nor willing to predict. Nothing indicates that the Supreme Court is about to adopt this new suspect classification when it conspicuously failed to do so in Romer—a case that could readily have been disposed by such a demarche. That such a classification could overturn marriage laws in a huge majority of individual states underscores the implications."

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#8375 Jun 12, 2012
Two Cents wrote:
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Well, what is the difference of gays and a relationship of different sex? Can we teach kids life skills without sex orientation?
Not really. The kids are going to see that one of their friends has two dads, or something will come on the TV, etc, etc, etc.

More importantly, some few kids are growing up gay. Every gay adult was once a gay child, and those kids who are now growing up need to understand that they are different, but different is not bad, or evil, or wrong, it is just "different". Like being the only black kid in a predominately white neighborhood, or the only Muslim, or the only...

Then too, kids need to grow up learning that it is NOT okay to hate someone just because they are a little bit different.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#8376 Jun 12, 2012
What the heck wrote:
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The whole point is that I have gay friends, but I don't get close, yet I do care, but I care for their soul, not enabling them to continue in sin. It's what I believe! Why the heck can't you see what I am saying?? Read it, right here: I CARE, I CARE, I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE, BUT I WILL NOT EMBRACE THE LIFESTYLE! Did you see it??? Did you see what I just said you blind sons a guns!! Unbelievable! It's what most of all us Christians are trying to say, but you have this satanic blindness going one here... it's mind boggling..... you don't want to give up the lifestyle I guess, or your afraid of getting fired or blackballed......(if you balls aren't black and blue already from playing pool with your buddy!) C'mon, open your mind and heart and entertain the idea that it's not normal to be gay, but God loves you anyway!!!
There is no "sin" in being gay. There is nothing in the Bible (properly translated) that says it is a sin to be gay.

In fact, the Bible shows that David was married to Johnathan, and David later went on to be chosen to give rise to the bloodline that leads to the Messiah.
Two Cents

Cookeville, TN

#8377 Jun 12, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Not really. The kids are going to see that one of their friends has two dads, or something will come on the TV, etc, etc, etc.
More importantly, some few kids are growing up gay. Every gay adult was once a gay child, and those kids who are now growing up need to understand that they are different, but different is not bad, or evil, or wrong, it is just "different". Like being the only black kid in a predominately white neighborhood, or the only Muslim, or the only...
Then too, kids need to grow up learning that it is NOT okay to hate someone just because they are a little bit different.
Again you are not hitting on the main point. Should kids as young as five be exposed to sexual nature topics. My kids are smart enough to ask why and what. I do not wish for them to be exposed toward your life style or mine. My hate is toward someone exposing sexual based topics toward children under 10. I feel you are a pervert if you expose anything sexual based toward a child. You need to be in jail if you expose anything sexual in clues toward a child under 10.

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#8378 Jun 12, 2012
Two Cents wrote:
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Again you are not hitting on the main point. Should kids as young as five be exposed to sexual nature topics. My kids are smart enough to ask why and what. I do not wish for them to be exposed toward your life style or mine. My hate is toward someone exposing sexual based topics toward children under 10. I feel you are a pervert if you expose anything sexual based toward a child. You need to be in jail if you expose anything sexual in clues toward a child under 10.
You didn't read his most excellent post. Nothing 'sexual' is presented, you just let kids know that different family structures are OK. A black Mom and white Dad is OK. Children with disabilities are OK. Adoptive parents are OK. A two Mom or two Dad family is OK. A man and woman who are not married choose to stay together and raise their child is OK.

All children come from different backgrounds. Children should be comfortable with their playmates and not picked on because they are different or for what their parents do or don't do.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#8379 Jun 13, 2012
DebJ wrote:
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You didn't read his most excellent post. Nothing 'sexual' is presented, you just let kids know that different family structures are OK. A black Mom and white Dad is OK. Children with disabilities are OK. Adoptive parents are OK. A two Mom or two Dad family is OK. A man and woman who are not married choose to stay together and raise their child is OK.
All children come from different backgrounds. Children should be comfortable with their playmates and not picked on because they are different or for what their parents do or don't do.
No need for me to repeat this...

Thanks.
What the heck

Livonia, MI

#8380 Jun 18, 2012
DebJ wrote:
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Ahhh, just another ignorant unregistered troll. You seemed halfway human at first. You can't really care when you don't bother to understand WTF is going on. Keep squawking like a parrot, you are
dismissed.
Your blind.
What the heck

East Lansing, MI

#8381 Jun 27, 2012
DebJ wrote:
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You don't accept the American Psychiatric or American Medical Associations??? Wow! What source do you accept OVER them? This is really interesting, I mean the lengths people will go to just to support their unfounded hatred and fears.
I've been on Topix for years and am registered (unlike yourself), I am a married woman of 36 years with 3 children thank you very much. I don't do porn either.
Your obsession with the details of male on male sex makes me wonder about YOU.
The title of this thread is pretty clear, what are YOU doing here?
Chastity Bono can do as she pleases, it's her life and she's hurting no one, how is that being shoved down your throat. It would seem you would like to interfere and tell her how to run her own life and that IS shoving it down people's throats.
I know I won't change your sad little mind, but your children and their children will grow up with more knowledge of the real world and how it functions. You are already a dinosauer....extinction is your only option.
You don't get it. Gays were fine until they started going into our government and changing policy and laws. They are in our schools now! Day of Silence ring a bell?? Wow, and people are all up in arms about prayer in school! Homosexuality is NOT natural!! Dadgumit look at what is going on around you! Can't you see it??? California now requires gay history, Massachusetts schools are teaching little grade schools kids about Homosexuality!!! And parents got NO choice to OPT OUT!!! That's why we are mad you ignorant person!! IT's not about hating or bigotry!! IT's about freedom of religion and control of what's being taught to our kids!! Get it through your thick skulls and quit disagreeing just to disagree out of spite for Christians! The Pentagon, the Military, which our taxes pay for...(just like the "prayer in schools argument") had a gay pride celebration!!! Some of are outraged!!!! This IS HURTING SOMEONE!! It's right on OUR FRONT DOORSTEP NOW!!! Congrats your out of the closet now.....like a fricking MONSTER let loose on society! Unbelievable!
RT Pipe

Monongahela, PA

#8382 Jun 27, 2012
What the heck wrote:
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You don't get it. Gays were fine until they started going into our government and changing policy and laws. They are in our schools now! Day of Silence ring a bell?? Wow, and people are all up in arms about prayer in school! Homosexuality is NOT natural!! Dadgumit look at what is going on around you! Can't you see it??? California now requires gay history, Massachusetts schools are teaching little grade schools kids about Homosexuality!!! And parents got NO choice to OPT OUT!!! That's why we are mad you ignorant person!! IT's not about hating or bigotry!! IT's about freedom of religion and control of what's being taught to our kids!! Get it through your thick skulls and quit disagreeing just to disagree out of spite for Christians! The Pentagon, the Military, which our taxes pay for...(just like the "prayer in schools argument") had a gay pride celebration!!! Some of are outraged!!!! This IS HURTING SOMEONE!! It's right on OUR FRONT DOORSTEP NOW!!! Congrats your out of the closet now.....like a fricking MONSTER let loose on society! Unbelievable!
Heard Blunderberg and CumO were watching the phagg parade and checking out the guys real close.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#8383 Jun 27, 2012
What the heck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it. Gays were fine until they started going into our government and changing policy and laws.
Since they are poeple just like the rest of us, they have the same right to be part of our government.
What the heck wrote:
They are in our schools now! Day of Silence ring a bell?? Wow, and people are all up in arms about prayer in school!
HUGE difference. The Day of Silence is calling out attention to the discrimination that too amny people still face.
What the heck wrote:
Homosexuality is NOT natural!!
Since homosexual behavior is found throughout nature, it is, by definition, natural.
What the heck wrote:
Dadgumit look at what is going on around you! Can't you see it??? California now requires gay history, Massachusetts schools are teaching little grade schools kids about Homosexuality!!! And parents got NO choice to OPT OUT!!!
And that is the way that children learn that discrimination is wrong and EVIL.

Besides, some of those kids are themselves gay, and as they grow up, they NEED to know that there are others like them, that they are not "freaks" or "perverts" or anything else other than children, just like everyone else.
What the heck wrote:
That's why we are mad you ignorant person!! IT's not about hating or bigotry!!
Liar. It is about nothing else BUT bigotry and hatred.
What the heck wrote:
IT's about freedom of religion and control of what's being taught to our kids!! Get it through your thick skulls and quit disagreeing just to disagree out of spite for Christians!
Christians need to learn that the Bible does NHOT condemn homosexuality. In fact, it CELEBRATES the marriage of David and Johnathan.
What the heck wrote:
The Pentagon, the Military, which our taxes pay for...(just like the "prayer in schools argument") had a gay pride celebration!!! Some of are outraged!!!!
Oh, boo hoo. Stop sniveling and grow up and accept that some people are different from others.
What the heck wrote:
This IS HURTING SOMEONE!! It's right on OUR FRONT DOORSTEP NOW!!! Congrats your out of the closet now.....like a fricking MONSTER let loose on society! Unbelievable!
No one has been hurt by gays being given their civil rights.
Va te faire le pompier

AOL

#8384 Jun 27, 2012
No room for deviant reproduction behavior! Obey Nature's law! If you were meant to exist, your septic hole would have been designed to be two ways instead of one way as it is today!
RT Pipe

Monongahela, PA

#8385 Jun 28, 2012
Phagg and Pfurious
What the heck

East Lansing, MI

#8387 Jul 1, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Since they are poeple just like the rest of us, they have the same right to be part of our government.
<quoted text>
HUGE difference. The Day of Silence is calling out attention to the discrimination that too amny people still face.
<quoted text>
Since homosexual behavior is found throughout nature, it is, by definition, natural.
<quoted text>
And that is the way that children learn that discrimination is wrong and EVIL.
Besides, some of those kids are themselves gay, and as they grow up, they NEED to know that there are others like them, that they are not "freaks" or "perverts" or anything else other than children, just like everyone else.
<quoted text>
Liar. It is about nothing else BUT bigotry and hatred.
<quoted text>
Christians need to learn that the Bible does NHOT condemn homosexuality. In fact, it CELEBRATES the marriage of David and Johnathan.
<quoted text>
Oh, boo hoo. Stop sniveling and grow up and accept that some people are different from others.
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No one has been hurt by gays being given their civil rights.
Holy cow! You stay up all night separating my paragraph into nice little sections like that? I'm touched!!

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#8388 Jul 1, 2012
Why so many Long Islanders on the first page ?!

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#8389 Jul 3, 2012
What the heck wrote:
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Holy cow! You stay up all night separating my paragraph into nice little sections like that? I'm touched!!
While I am glad that you were SO impressed with my amazing abilities, the truth is that for anyone with an IQ above room temperature, that is quite easy to do and requires very little time... certainly not all night.

Ask your caregiver to start teaching you about the computer feature called "copy and paste"...
IsParmaleehomoph obic

Istanbul, Turkey

#8391 Jul 30, 2012
I think Thomas Parmalee comes after gay men and turns his head against straight married males. Why did Thomas Parmalee from Thomas Parmalee Associates go on a character assassination against Henry Vinson? I think Thomas Parmalee of Thomas Parmalee Associates in NJ is obsessed with Henry Vinson because he is gay.

Here is a general overview of the spectrum of behaviors that exhibit internalized homophobia. Everyone has a unique life history, personality, and set of circumstances that inform their place either on or totally off of this list!:

1. Aggressive Denial. Some people feel so strongly that they should not be gay that they will repress their feelings and desires and speak out with some of the most hateful and homophobic language you will ever hear. You often see this happen with fundamentalist religious figures, like Ted Haggard. This never ends well.(Usually it ends with a gay sex scandal, talk show appearances and a lot more denial.) This is the worst kind of internalized homophobia because the hateful rhetoric and actions that these “aggressive deniers” exhibit really hurt other gay people and the movement.

2. Denial. Some people simply deny that they are gay, try to lead a straight life, may even get married and have a family. Many of these gay people in denial lead secret gay lives, or possibly worse, spend their lives feeling unfulfilled, lonely and unknown to everyone they love.

3. Closeted. A closeted person is someone who has gay relationships, but hides that fact from everyone that they know and love. In Beyond the Closet; The Transformation of Gay and Lesbian Life, being in the closet is described as a “life-shaping pattern of concealment.” Being closeted is linked with high-anxiety, low self-esteem, increased risk for suicide and general lack of fulfillment (though closeted people rarely admit to not being fulfilled while they’re in there, though they always remark about it when they finally come out!)

4. In the closet with the door open. Many people are only partially closeted. They have gay relationships, and don’t completely hide their sexuality, but they make a point to not talk about it with family, friends, co-workers or, if they are public figures, the media. Sometimes gay people do this for their own safety, for example, if they know they could face possible violence at work or lose their home if they are living with homophobic family members. There can be a practical side to being careful with your disclosure. However, many gays have gay friends, gay friendly (or at least loving) parents and still they remain silent. Often they say things like “it’s not anybody’s business,” or “we don’t talk about those kinds of things,” when questioned. The root of this avoidance and secrecy is shame, fear to disappoint, fear to face actual homophobia from people or to not be accepted. This kind of internalized homophobia really encourages subtle and systemic discrimination in our society. It makes a statement that even gay people believe that gays should be marginalized and gives straight people permission to ignore us. When we do not advocate for ourselves and others who need support, we are weak as a movement. Additionally, the people found in this part of the spectrum are often the most avid deniers of the existence of ‘internalized homophobia.’

5. Out, and generally fine with other gays, but really dislikes ‘dykes’ and ‘flamers’. Many gay people are out and open and educated and “perfectly wonderful” gays, except for the fact that they vocally dislike flamboyant gay people. If you are this person, there are a few things you should consider.

Is Thomas Parmalee of Thomas Parmalee and Associates against gays?

Uve

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8395 Dec 21, 2012
Joe Schmoe wrote:
Would all normal people please join me in my wish that all dirty Poofters (see Homo's/Queers) get AIDS for Christmas... and that they die in screaming agony during 2013.
Oh what joy!
How can you stand yourself? Shameful hating piece of sh*t you are. God help you.

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