Marcus: The wrong way to fight DOMA

Marcus: The wrong way to fight DOMA

There are 38 comments on the The Washington Post story from Apr 29, 2011, titled Marcus: The wrong way to fight DOMA. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

It's easy to beat up on a big corporate law firm for acting cravenly in its financial self-interest. In the case of King & Spalding, the Atlanta firm that abruptly reneged on its commitment to defend the Defense of Marriage Act, the pummeling is entirely deserved.

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Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1 Apr 29, 2011
We are not interested in playing games with our civil rights for the sole amusement of Miss Ruth Marcus
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She can amuse herself by abusing someone else
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#2 Apr 29, 2011
Ruth Marcus is obviously correct.
Bringmedinner

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Apr 29, 2011
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.

“You'll love me!”

Since: Sep 10

I promise.

#4 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.
LOL....

Good luck.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#5 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.
Wrong playpen baby
.
This is the TOPIX Gay/Lesbian Chat Room
.
To chat with fellow pedophiles; click here
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic
Bringmedinner

Elizabethtown, KY

#6 Apr 29, 2011
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong playpen baby
.
This is the TOPIX Gay/Lesbian Chat Room
.
To chat with fellow pedophiles; click here
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic
The slick homosexuals and Liberals on Topix periodically attempt to misrepresent Catholic priests and the Catholic Church with spurious allegations of "child abuse" and libelous assertions. The overwhelming majority of abuse claims were in fact against maturing young men, thus homosexuals were the culprits. Homosexuals took over Catholic seminaries, produced priests and used their basically stolen credentials to place homosexual "priests" in various diocese. Although molesting the young men was a important part of their lust and betrayal, the real issue was to diminish the Catholic Church because of their Biblical stance against homosexuality. These conspiracies of various queen run homosexuals began in the 1950s, which gives some insight into how they were able to perform so many young men molestations over the decades.

If it's a gay board in a gay section, then you should keep it there and not periodically infect US News with it.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#7 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
<quoted text>
The slick homosexuals and Liberals on Topix periodically attempt to misrepresent Catholic priests and the Catholic Church with spurious allegations of "child abuse" and libelous assertions. The overwhelming majority of abuse claims were in fact against maturing young men, thus homosexuals were the culprits. Homosexuals took over Catholic seminaries, produced priests and used their basically stolen credentials to place homosexual "priests" in various diocese. Although molesting the young men was a important part of their lust and betrayal, the real issue was to diminish the Catholic Church because of their Biblical stance against homosexuality. These conspiracies of various queen run homosexuals began in the 1950s, which gives some insight into how they were able to perform so many young men molestations over the decades.
If it's a gay board in a gay section, then you should keep it there and not periodically infect US News with it.
BS
.
The priests don't go looking for people to molest; nor do they advertise such services. They're just stuck with a job nobody else wants
.
The 'victims' leave their homes on purpose; and go to church to get diddled
Dan

Bronx, NY

#8 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.
Oh my God! Are you for real??? Invading the Catholic Church??? and by the way, homosexuality is a God given human nature, just for a small percentage of humanity. All human deserve respect (read your Catechism). Lastly, for the record, don't confuse pedophelia with homosexuality. Try not to speak like a morin, will ya?

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#9 Apr 29, 2011
Whack-a-doodle-bringmedinner strikes again!

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#10 Apr 29, 2011
NE Jade wrote:
Whack-a-doodle-bringmedinner strikes again!
Bringmeabrain would be a better name for that idiot from Oklahoma (if you'll pardon the redundancy) who probably worships Sally Kern.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#11 Apr 29, 2011
I actually agree with the article (gasp!!!).

There will ALWAYS be a scum-bucket law firm/lawyer willing to take a case like this, especially if, as it appears to be the case here, the client is promising half a million dollars "and then renegotiate" after that. In law firm lingo, that means, "there's no end to the money we'll throw at you, but we can't let the people paying the tab know the total price tag or they won't let us do it."

The pressure should have been put on Boner and his cronies to quit pandering to their hate-mongering "base" and simply walk away from legislation that is clearly unconstitutional. We know it, they know it, the lawyers know it, even most of the hate-mongers know it. But there are literally BILLIONS of dollars at stake, both in legal feels and political donations from hate groups, in defending this case. And Boner and his cronies aren't willing to walk away from all that cash (yet).

We're wasting our resources beating up on law firms for taking this case. There will ALWAYS be one in line right behind every one we convince to drop it.

Our time needs to be spent pressuring the lawmakers that are perpetuating this fraud on the public to stop wasting taxpayers' money attacking our families.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#12 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
<quoted text>
The slick homosexuals and Liberals on Topix periodically attempt to misrepresent Catholic priests and the Catholic Church with spurious allegations of "child abuse" and libelous assertions. The overwhelming majority of abuse claims were in fact against maturing young men, thus homosexuals were the culprits. Homosexuals took over Catholic seminaries, produced priests and used their basically stolen credentials to place homosexual "priests" in various diocese. Although molesting the young men was a important part of their lust and betrayal, the real issue was to diminish the Catholic Church because of their Biblical stance against homosexuality. These conspiracies of various queen run homosexuals began in the 1950s, which gives some insight into how they were able to perform so many young men molestations over the decades.
If it's a gay board in a gay section, then you should keep it there and not periodically infect US News with it.
Oh don't even attempt to portray the Catholic church as the victim! These are pedophiles who are CREATED by the church's distorted views on sex. What do you think is going to happen to prepubescent children if you constantly portray homosexuality as evil for which they will burn in hell for all eternity, refuse to discuss their questions about sex openly and honestly, and then insist that ONLY young men may serve the church as priests and altar boys and have to do so only if they take a vow to remain chaste by never, ever, having sex during their entire lifetime?! I'll tell you -- you create large numbers of social misfits who agonize in secret over their natural sexual orientation and become completely warped in the process!

Instead, the church should accept the scientific findings that homosexuality is as normal as nature itself, that men and women are equal, that there is nothing impure about sex as such, and that imposing mandatory celibacy is unnatural.(Those are the changes relevant to this discussion, but by no means the only errors the church should correct!)

But to blame the church's scandals on a vast homosexual conspiracy shows how deluded you are! Do you really think a thirteen year old boy who starts experiencing his own sexual orientation is going to say to himself, "I know what I'll do, ten years from now when I'm all grown up, I'll enter the priesthood, and over the next 20 to 30 years I shall have secret sex with multiple young male parishioners, thereby contributing to an international scandal just to disgrace the church." Are you just plain stupid?

That's the problem with you christians -- you have believed lies for so long that you can no longer even tell the difference between reality and delusion!

“Proud to be an American”

Since: Oct 09

Clarksville TN

#13 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.
What, is this the Dark Ages?

“Proud to be an American”

Since: Oct 09

Clarksville TN

#14 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
<quoted text>
The slick homosexuals and Liberals on Topix periodically attempt to misrepresent Catholic priests and the Catholic Church with spurious allegations of "child abuse" and libelous assertions. The overwhelming majority of abuse claims were in fact against maturing young men, thus homosexuals were the culprits. Homosexuals took over Catholic seminaries, produced priests and used their basically stolen credentials to place homosexual "priests" in various diocese. Although molesting the young men was a important part of their lust and betrayal, the real issue was to diminish the Catholic Church because of their Biblical stance against homosexuality. These conspiracies of various queen run homosexuals began in the 1950s, which gives some insight into how they were able to perform so many young men molestations over the decades.
If it's a gay board in a gay section, then you should keep it there and not periodically infect US News with it.
Do you take your meds for that paranoia regularly?

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#15 Apr 29, 2011
So letting clients and potential employees of this law firm know what they are defending is somehow henious? I think it's called truth in advertising. Anyone who would knowingly and willingly defend this ugly law while claiming to be gay friendly gets what it deserves. I won't buy Jamaican rum or Domino's pizza by virtue of knowledge of each one's heinous behavior. Don't tell me that I'm somehow evil for having these standards.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
<quoted text>
The slick homosexuals and Liberals on Topix periodically attempt to misrepresent Catholic priests and the Catholic Church with spurious allegations of "child abuse" and libelous assertions. The overwhelming majority of abuse claims were in fact against maturing young men, thus homosexuals were the culprits. Homosexuals took over Catholic seminaries, produced priests and used their basically stolen credentials to place homosexual "priests" in various diocese. Although molesting the young men was a important part of their lust and betrayal, the real issue was to diminish the Catholic Church because of their Biblical stance against homosexuality. These conspiracies of various queen run homosexuals began in the 1950s, which gives some insight into how they were able to perform so many young men molestations over the decades.
If it's a gay board in a gay section, then you should keep it there and not periodically infect US News with it.
http://www.waldenbehavioralcare.com/paranoid_...

that's a link to a counselling group that can help you with your paranoid schizophrenia.

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Silver Spring, MD

#17 Apr 29, 2011
>But strong-arming the lawyer to drop or avoid the unpopular client is not an acceptable tactic.

The author of that article is a total idiot.

The issue, in the legal community, is not merely whether that firm or that particular lawyer, Clement, should be punished for taking a disgusting case. That happens all the time, with the bigot Boy Scouts being defended in Philly, or with firms defending tobacco or asbestos, or with lawyers defending serial killers.

The issue was _the gag order imposed on all employees_ of the firm regarding any discussion of the disgusting legal case. That's the issue, that's why the (informed) criticism, that's why the firm backed out. The ethics counsel at the firm swore in a letter to the court that there were significant ethical issues preventing the firm from proceeding.

Now, reading between the lines, not all of the partners at the firm were initially aware of the gag provisions in the contract with the bigots in the House. They soon were made aware of those provisions, and, from the wider legal community, of the unacceptable nature of those gag provisions.

“Son of Abraham”

Since: Aug 07

Natural Deviant

#18 Apr 29, 2011
Bringmedinner wrote:
Homosexual "civil rights" should be diminished because as has been the case for thousands of years, homosexual behavior should be criminal and criminals have diminished "civil rights." Homosexuals are going to find out they can not change human nature, even by intentionally invading the Catholic Church to molest young men.
And once again we have a closet case troller whose obsession for gay sex is only surpassed by his pedophilia obsession.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#19 Apr 29, 2011
There is no client on trial here. If there were, it would be entirely appropriate for any law firm to defend that client, regardless of whether he/she was perceived to be guilty or not. If you disagree, go ahead ... name the entity that is on trial here.

No, what is on trial is a law, and no-one needs to feel any civic duty to defend an unjust law. If you do, you can expect to be tainted by the same bigotry that created the law in the first place.

If the Third Reich law which placed Jews and homosexuals in concentration camps were to go on trial today, I dare any reasonable-minded person to take the position that such a law deserved to be defended in court!

It's time to end the christian madness!!!
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#20 Apr 29, 2011
Barney Stinson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.waldenbehavioralcare.com/paranoid_...
that's a link to a counselling group that can help you with your paranoid schizophrenia.
Hopefully, your linked service also gives reparative therapy to homosexual perverts.

Homosexuals invading and taking over Catholic seminaries and using them to place perverts across America is well established fact.

Homosexuals also used terroristic threatening in California to get money and the sociopath homosexuals listened to their public, televised call to intentionally infect heterosexuals with HIV/AIDS. Homosexuals have been arrested under new laws that were passed to deal with the intentional infection of others.

Homosexuals are mentally and very often physically diseased.

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