Obama, Clinton to world: Stop gay discrimination

Dec 7, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Athens Banner-Herald

The Obama administration's declaration that it plans to use foreign assistance, international diplomacy and political asylum to promote gay rights abroad is a momentous step that could dangerously backfire if not pursued with delicacy and an appreciation of how the challenges faced by gays and lesbians vary by nation, human rights activists said.

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Hanging on to your paranoid anxiety much, Dumplar? Still stewing over religious freedom in the USA? Got a crescent moon stuck upyerass sideways?
You're a mess.
Still NO word on the Templar's pedophile enabling pope! LOL,You know the Nazi pope who rewarded the offending priests with a slap on the wrist and a transfer so they could continue molesting children in the thousands! I guess the "GOOD"? name of the church is more important than the safety of the children! Yeah right he's got a lot of room to talk! I guess freedom of religion is only good for him and no one else! Piss on that Constitution!

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Being a woman, I'm not that good at it either, Southern Gentlemen are always telling me a 12 inch cock is a foot.
Which one of those 'feet' do they put their socks on?

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I understand about the immoral acts in pagan temples...male, female, gay, straight...but whether the term "homosexual" was used or not, one of the ACTS was homosexual. What part of "Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men" is so difficult?
Thank you for your thoughtful response though.
Reread my comment as I told you in it. It does NOT say "men who have sex with men." In the Koine Greek it says "male" (note singular) "beds." Now, if you know what the heck that means, you are doing better than almost ALL of the Koine Greek linguists and thoelogians, because none of them know or agree. It is a word that Saul of Tarsus made up.

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I don't have a "condemning heart" as you say repeatedly. But you say your nature cannot be changed....however, if you are a believer, you'll find the following:
Ephesians 4:20 That, however, is not the way of life you learned 21 when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. 22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
But, it does not say anything about changing your sexual orientation. That is a gift from G-d. Why would G-d want to change that?

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Your "logic" concerning the bible and homosexuality is of the same vain as Monty Python...(denial of reality)
Frenchman: "Who goes there?"
King Arthur: "It is I, Arthur, king of the Britons, defeator of the Saxons! We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights to join me at my court of Camelot."
Frenchman: "What? Riding on a horse!?"
KA: "Yes."
Frenchman: "You're banging coconuts!"
KA: "What?"
Frenchman: "You've got two emply halves of a coconut and you're bangin' em together!"
KA: "No, no we're not..."
Would you like to interpret this for me? I know a bit of Greek and Hebrew, but NOT gibberish.

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Hey peeps...make all your arguments you choose, none of which include Biblical reference that homosexuality is normal. So you go right ahead and base your eternity on your lack of belief and I'll base mine on God's Word. All the disagreement in the world, all the clubs and politics and protests against what God has said, does NOT make Him wrong.
Isaiah 56:4

For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
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Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
While this passage doesn't refer directly to homosexuals, it does say that there is openness to other sexual types.

Matthew 19:12

"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there are eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

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I'm really curious, but what on earth makes you believe that gay people grew up without God? Or made a choice to be gay despite what we were told that the Bible says? Or that we did not try to be straight? That's what really entertains me. I was religious growing up and I found that no matter how hard I prayed or tried to leave my "former life" behind and to put off my "old self" I could not. That was not because I had no will to do so, it was because I simply cannot change who God made me.
You attempt to box us all in as a group of people who left the glory of God or never knew the glory of God. The truth is, most of us grew up in households where we read the Bible and prayed and went to church, and that did not change us, it only made us want to commit suicide when people like you came around bashing homosexuals. It is people like you that do not recognize the broader picture, because God works in ways that neither of us understand, but people like you will not accept.
A gay person can live righteously, in the glory of God. A gay person can go to church every Sunday, remain committed to their partner, raise children in accordance to God's word, provide and care for their families, and above all, love Jesus Christ for what He did for us. Being gay does not stop us from doing that.
You on the other hand, do not love Jesus for what he did for us because you are trying to categorize people into the ones going to heaven and the ones going to hell. You don't recognize that He didn't select one group of people to save, He saved ALL OF HUMANITY, past and present. Six verses make you come to a Gay/Lesbian board to preach your views, but that makes you no better than anyone else, and your attempts to elevate yourself in the eyes of God are falling on two sets of deaf ears: The GLBT people here and God. At no point does God want you to abuse His name, and you do that repeatedly here. So find another place to go, because your views of the Bible are in the BC era, and are not welcome here.
Honestly, you're judging me much more harshly (and wrongheaded) than I've judged anyone else. Growing up in a Christian home doesn't mean one will be a Christian. I certainly never said you were going to hell. Unbelief that Jesus is the Son of God and the WAY to heaven is what will separate us from God and I cannot make the determination where anyone will spend his/her afterlife. That's between an individual and God.

This isn't a gay/lesbian board...I picked it up on Politics. Am I allow on the political board? What about equality and all that? Have a Merry Christmas!
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Isaiah 56:4
For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
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Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
While this passage doesn't refer directly to homosexuals, it does say that there is openness to other sexual types.
Matthew 19:12
"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there are eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
You're right -- it is a different sexual type. The eunuch did not choose to have same gender sex. In fact, he was most of the time placed in a position where he couldn't have sex with either gender, even if he wanted to, and all were "safe"...Therefore, if it's true that one is born a homosexual, you can choose to not have sex at all rather than have sex with one of your own gender. Perhaps the point here is that sex is your #1 concern in opposition to what God wants. "You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:1
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Who are we to judge homosexuals? God brought them into this world and He alone guides their lives and their destiny--with freedom of choice, of course. I happen to be straight, but I firmly believe in gay rights. And I'm glad to hear that Obama is teaming with Clinton to help bring equality to homeosexuals worldwide.

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You're right -- it is a different sexual type. The eunuch did not choose to have same gender sex. In fact, he was most of the time placed in a position where he couldn't have sex with either gender, even if he wanted to, and all were "safe"...Therefore, if it's true that one is born a homosexual, you can choose to not have sex at all rather than have sex with one of your own gender. Perhaps the point here is that sex is your #1 concern in opposition to what God wants. "You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:1
I see. So "sex" is a god for gay people. Oh brother.

How about you worry about who YOU have sex with, and leave others to do the same? I'm sure you do that now with divorced people. You know, given that THAT is condemned much more in your little Sky Santa Manual.

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Honestly, you're judging me much more harshly (and wrongheaded) than I've judged anyone else. Growing up in a Christian home doesn't mean one will be a Christian. I certainly never said you were going to hell. Unbelief that Jesus is the Son of God and the WAY to heaven is what will separate us from God and I cannot make the determination where anyone will spend his/her afterlife. That's between an individual and God.
It's certainly implied, considering the "evidence" you've introduced.
This isn't a gay/lesbian board...I picked it up on Politics. Am I allow on the political board? What about equality and all that? Have a Merry Christmas!
I am perfectly happy to extend equality and fairness to all those who extend it to me. I am certainly fair in treating people.

And this thread linked to the Gay/Lesbian board as well.

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You're right -- it is a different sexual type. The eunuch did not choose to have same gender sex. In fact, he was most of the time placed in a position where he couldn't have sex with either gender, even if he wanted to, and all were "safe"...Therefore, if it's true that one is born a homosexual, you can choose to not have sex at all rather than have sex with one of your own gender. Perhaps the point here is that sex is your #1 concern in opposition to what God wants. "You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:1
Wait, so straight people are allowed to be happy and gays and lesbians aren't?

Perhaps Moses and Paul were wrong, and sex with someone of the same gender, so long as it does not deviate from your natural, inborn, God-given characteristics, is acceptable in His eyes, so long as we do not conduct ourselves immorally in practicing that form of love.

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The pictures that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT want you to see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Wait, so straight people are allowed to be happy and gays and lesbians aren't?
Perhaps Moses and Paul were wrong, and sex with someone of the same gender, so long as it does not deviate from your natural, inborn, God-given characteristics, is acceptable in His eyes, so long as we do not conduct ourselves immorally in practicing that form of love.
Watch, and learn something fool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Watch, and learn something fool:
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Your conspiracy theories are insulting to just about every minority religion in America.

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Your conspiracy theories are insulting to just about every minority religion in America.
Really? You hear me condemning the peaceful right to practice ANY religion in America?
Get a clue, you muckin fope, I am speaking to militant Islam and the application of Shariah Law as THEY would apply it, the essence of that meaning the CONNECTION of church and state.
As for militant Islam in the United States, there was a great Pew Report a few years back. 26% of domestic Muslims were sympathetic to Al Qaeda. 4% of all American Muslims thought 9/11 WAS WARRANTED!

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Templar -- That's no different than the religious reicht trying to impose their *own* brand of Sharia law here in the US! No difference whatsoever.

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The Last Templar wrote:
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Really? You hear me condemning the peaceful right to practice ANY religion in America?
Get a clue, you muckin fope, I am speaking to militant Islam and the application of Shariah Law as THEY would apply it, the essence of that meaning the CONNECTION of church and state.
As for militant Islam in the United States, there was a great Pew Report a few years back. 26% of domestic Muslims were sympathetic to Al Qaeda. 4% of all American Muslims thought 9/11 WAS WARRANTED!
First, we live in a secular country, so there IS NO APPLICATION OF SHARIAH LAW here.

Second, I have not disagreed with you, only pointed out that not all Muslims are in the 4%, or even the 26% figures you threw out there. Which means the majority ARE practicing peacefully, and you dont hear about it.

Third, i will say this again. I am sure that 4% of American Christians thought the Holocaust was warranted. Only difference is that instead of 4,000 people dying, it was six million. And that was only 60 years ago. So once again, lumping everyone into one category is a dangerous, biased way to look at a normally peaceful people.

Get a clue.
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Why is obummer gay aswell..

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