Mormon church pleased with Boy Scouts proposal to lift ban on gay youth

Apr 25, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Detroit News

The Mormon church has given its blessing to the Boy Scouts of America on its latest proposal to lift the gay ban for youth members but continue to exclude gays as adult leaders.

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Apr 25, 2013
Since the BSA has been an unofficial auxilliary arm of the LDS for quite a while now, I guess that it's a done deal.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#2 Apr 25, 2013
After all the damage the Mormon Church has done I don't trust the bastards even when they pretend to compromise. It's got to be a devious strategy intended to harm us in some way. In any case, by supporting this move they prove that they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles.

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Since: Feb 07

Porterville, CA

#3 Apr 26, 2013
So, instead of discriminating against Gays a lot they are saying we will only discriminate a little.

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#4 Apr 26, 2013
Umninimuzi wrote:
After all the damage the Mormon Church has done I don't trust the bastards even when they pretend to compromise. It's got to be a devious strategy intended to harm us in some way. In any case, by supporting this move they prove that they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles.
Perhaps, but now the kids will have the opportunity to learn what Scouting has to offer. I look forward to a great many Eagle Scouts and, hopefully, some Explorer Scouts as well.
Anonymous

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Apr 26, 2013
Th Mormons can GO F themselves.....along with the RCC
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#6 Apr 26, 2013
Gays are banned from the Boy Scouts; zero; nada
.
Religious pedophiles are welcomed by the thousands
.
People aren't smart enough to figure that one out
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Apr 26, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Perhaps, but now the kids will have the opportunity to learn what Scouting has to offer. I look forward to a great many Eagle Scouts and, hopefully, some Explorer Scouts as well.
You require an intervention of some sort.

The policy obviously defames all glbt adults as sexual predators.
Shining Through

Justice, IL

#8 Apr 26, 2013
Where do the homosexuals mention that a homosexual billionaire trust funder sued this little organization all the way to the US Supreme Court?

The US Supreme Court--where the Boy Scouts of America won!

Let freedom reign!

Thank you, oh US Supreme Court!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#9 Apr 26, 2013
Shining Through wrote:
Where do the homosexuals mention that a homosexual billionaire trust funder sued this little organization all the way to the US Supreme Court?
The US Supreme Court--where the Boy Scouts of America won!
Let freedom reign!
Thank you, oh US Supreme Court!
The BSA may have won at the Supreme Court.....
.
.....But corporate America shut off the BSA's money faucet
.
So BSA HQ is having to accept pink dollars to pay the bills

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#10 Apr 26, 2013
Shining Through wrote:
Where do the homosexuals mention that a homosexual billionaire trust funder sued this little organization all the way to the US Supreme Court?
The US Supreme Court--where the Boy Scouts of America won!
Let freedom reign!
Thank you, oh US Supreme Court!
Lets hear you cheer them on come July,

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#11 Apr 26, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
Gays are banned from the Boy Scouts; zero; nada
.
Religious pedophiles are welcomed by the thousands
.
People aren't smart enough to figure that one out
Yep, the Boy Scouts can't quite figure out, who should we trust more, men who are honest and open about their sexuality or those who we have no idea what their sexual secrets might contain or be. Brilliant thinking there right wingers, your religious eyes are blind to truth.

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#12 Apr 26, 2013
Umninimuzi wrote:
In any case, by supporting this move they prove that they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles.
I have an actual honest question. Did you have to take some time to consider what you just said or, did you just whip it off the top of your shallow mind or, did in fact that what you stated having it's own contradictions/implications mean nothing to you?
I'll play your stupid is stupid writes game okay?
If what you say is correct(which it isn't)that they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles. Than the total opposite has to be true that they consider all adult heterosexuals to be pedophiles also. The actual evidence of this latter theory exists in that the LDS has policies whereby a male teacher/leader isn't to be left alone with an underage female and a female teacher/leader isn't to be left alone with an underage male. That (by your logic) proves the LDS leaders believes all heterosexual teachers/leaders have the potential to become pedophiles of opposite sex children so they have actually implemented policies to hopefully keep it from taking place.
Since crimes against children have shown that homosexual adults target same sex children more than opposite sex adults and, heterosexual adults target opposite sex children more than homosexual adults, according to you and the LDS policies what they do is well and good. They separate opposite sex adults from being alone with opposite sex children by policy and, they don't allow homosexual adults to be around same sex children.
That's a summary of your warped pathetic ignorant thought out logic that "...they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles."
The LDS church has a definition of what marriage is.
If a member has problems with it, their best option is to not be a member.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#13 Apr 26, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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.....But corporate America shut off the BSA's money faucet
.
So BSA HQ is having to accept pink dollars to pay the bills
Idiots think, idiots speak...
As long as the LDS church has a financial hand for the BSA, that BSA organization will never have a financial ruin as you suppose. And if something should happen that it actually faces financial ruin, I have no doubt the LDS church will come in to take over legal/financial ownership as they love the BSA :)
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Apr 26, 2013
Shining Through wrote:
Where do the homosexuals mention that a homosexual billionaire trust funder sued this little organization all the way to the US Supreme Court?
The US Supreme Court--where the Boy Scouts of America won!
Let freedom reign!
Thank you, oh US Supreme Court!
The Dale decision was predicated on the bigot Boy Scouts being a private organization.

No police athletic league involvement, no govt subsidized rent in Philly or elsewhere, no special rates or accommodations on federal park lands.

The bigot Boy Scouts were effectively shunned by educated society starting in concert about two years ago. The rest is just a matter of time.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#15 Apr 26, 2013
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup wrote:
The bigot Boy Scouts were effectively shunned by educated society starting in concert about two years ago. The rest is just a matter of time.
By educated society? Are you fricking mad? You mean the present educated society that endorses now, more than at any other time in American history, the nearly complete socialization of government programs to give $, food and free cell phones to people who otherwise could work be the citizens or aliens? You mean that educated society?
You mean the educated society that is supporting billions of $ for aliens every single year the US will never ever see a return of? You mean that educated society?
Or maybe you're referencing the older educated societies that once fully supported total discrimination of colours and nationalities? You mean the educated societies that at one time supported the legalities of owning slaves? You mean the educated societies that once were so against homosexuality and found it a mentally abnormal disorder of the mind?
Are those the educated societies that you were referencing directly and indirectly? Hmm?

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#16 Apr 26, 2013
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup wrote:
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You require an intervention of some sort.
The policy obviously defames all glbt adults as sexual predators.
I'm willing to simply eat that one for a few more years for the sake of gay kids. More gay Eagle Scouts and some gay Explorer Scouts will bring about the change, with our support ... once they exist, that is.

For now, this will work.

I'M not going to sacrifice kids for the sake of an ideological purity that only really matters to adults.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Apr 26, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I'm willing to simply eat that one for a few more years....
There's no reason to do that. It's unacceptable. It's an inoculation strategy by the bigot Boy Scouts, and even though you couldn't reason it out everyone knows this policy is to expressly cast adult glbt people as unfit to be around youth.

What it really means is that gay and questioning kids will be exposed to continued defamation by bigoted Scout troops, where there will be no adult role models and a pogrom in place.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Apr 26, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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By educated society? Are you....
Your deranged, off topic horsesht doesn't matter. The stats are clear: Younger, educated, less uber "religious" people are over the homophobia thing, on average.

Homophobes are now outliers in educated society.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#19 Apr 26, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
I have an actual honest question. Did you have to take some time to consider what you just said or, did you just whip it off the top of your shallow mind or, did in fact that what you stated having it's own contradictions/implications mean nothing to you?
I'll play your stupid is stupid writes game okay?
If what you say is correct(which it isn't)that they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles. Than the total opposite has to be true that they consider all adult heterosexuals to be pedophiles also. The actual evidence of this latter theory exists in that the LDS has policies whereby a male teacher/leader isn't to be left alone with an underage female and a female teacher/leader isn't to be left alone with an underage male. That (by your logic) proves the LDS leaders believes all heterosexual teachers/leaders have the potential to become pedophiles of opposite sex children so they have actually implemented policies to hopefully keep it from taking place.
Since crimes against children have shown that homosexual adults target same sex children more than opposite sex adults and, heterosexual adults target opposite sex children more than homosexual adults, according to you and the LDS policies what they do is well and good. They separate opposite sex adults from being alone with opposite sex children by policy and, they don't allow homosexual adults to be around same sex children.
That's a summary of your warped pathetic ignorant thought out logic that "...they consider all adult homosexuals to be pedophiles."
The LDS church has a definition of what marriage is.
If a member has problems with it, their best option is to not be a member.
There seems little point in debating you on the subject, because regardless of what I say you have already pronounced me "shallow" with "warped pathetic ignorant thoughts". Nevertheless, I shall take the bait and respond.

You might have had a point about adults not being permitted to supervise opposite sex children, but I was discussing -- the BOYS Scouts. To my knowledge there are no girls in the BSA. so your argument is moot.

Your explanation that "crimes against children have shown that homosexual adults target same sex children more than opposite sex adults and, heterosexual adults target opposite sex children more than homosexual adults" is NOT based in fact. Go check your facts. You assume that pedophilia is a sexual crime, when in fact it is a crime of control and power. The statistics show that most adult males who abuse little boys have NO history of homosexuality, but are usually married with children. That is a fact.

Now you will probably protest that that one act proves that such an adult pedophile is covertly gay. But then if we were to apply the same reason to homosexuals you would also have to conclude that a known homosexual who has sex with a woman once is in fact a covert heterosexual -- which is absurd. So which is it to be?

I'd be happy to debate this matter further with you, but if you resort to personal insults and ridicule instead of facts and reason I will not even bother to respond. Your call.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#20 Apr 26, 2013
Excuse me ... I have to retract what I said in paragraph three of my post above ...

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