Gay celibacy group prompts University of Toronto parishioners to leave

Jan 16, 2013 | Posted by: Gay And Proud | Full story: www.thestar.com

A Catholic group that counsels homosexuals to be celibate has prompted dozens of offended people to leave a parish on U of T campus and earned a rebuke from the university.

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Chance

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Never mind that Christians of all stripes require celibacy of straight people outside of marriage. (Yes, I know that it is something that many Christians try and fail.) I see nothing shocking here except that gays are shocked over the idea of celibacy. It isn't like this is some gay-specific requirement.

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Celibacy or changing orientation are the only options for those with same sex attractions who want to follow Jesus.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Oh, CALEB, LUKE, JAYCE, MAX, DAVID MOORE, RAND, THEO, I see YOU are good at changing something...your NAME, which you do constantly, trying to fool us. It ain't a workin'!
david traversa

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Theo wrote:
Celibacy or changing orientation are the only options for those with same sex attractions who want to follow Jesus.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Why don't you quote Jesus himself on the subject..? for a change.. We don't believe in the second-hand..
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Chance wrote:
Never mind that Christians of all stripes require celibacy of straight people outside of marriage.(Yes, I know that it is something that many Christians try and fail.) I see nothing shocking here except that gays are shocked over the idea of celibacy. It isn't like this is some gay-specific requirement.
You're confusing sexual abstinence with celibacy, which means not being married, period.. You can't "require celibacy outside of marriage" because, if you're not married, you MUST be celibate..
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Silly and ignorant.. You can an be celibate and yet very promiscuous..
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ALL queers should be required by law to be celibate.

Mandatory castration would protect the little boys.
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Theo wrote:
Celibacy or changing orientation are the only options for those with same sex attractions who want to follow Jesus.
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Obviously you've been entrusted by fundamentalist morons who don't know diddly squat
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Jesus; the True Leader of Christians; tells an entirely different story:
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Matthew 19:9> "And I say vnto you, Whosoeuer shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away, doth commit adultery."
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Matthew 19:10> His disciples say vnto him, "If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marrie."
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Matthew 19:11> But hee said vnto them, "All men cannot receiue this saying, saue they to whom it is giuen."
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Matthew 19:12> "For there are some Eunuches, which were so borne from their mothers wombe: and there are some Eunuches, which were made Eunuches of men: and there be Eunuches, which haue made themselues Eunuches for the kingdome of heauens sake. He that is able to receiue it, let him receiue it."
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Robert wrote:
ALL queers should be required by law to be celibate.
Mandatory castration would protect the little boys.
Another fool who doesn't know the true definition of words.. CELIBATE = NOT MARRIED..
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It's all just part of Ratzinger's "cleansing" policies.

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Chance wrote:
Never mind that Christians of all stripes require celibacy of straight people outside of marriage.(Yes, I know that it is something that many Christians try and fail.) I see nothing shocking here except that gays are shocked over the idea of celibacy. It isn't like this is some gay-specific requirement.
Since most of those same Christians are denying same-sex couples the right to marry, it IS imposing a gay-specific requirement.

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<quoted text>Another fool who doesn't know the true definition of words.. CELIBATE = NOT MARRIED..
Actually, David, celibate's primary meaning is abstaining from sex. Not being married is a secondary meaning that usually goes along with abstaining from sex.
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Good idea for this parish to clean house. truth is the only way to go. Hopefully those poor souls will see the light before it's to late.
Now say a "Hail Mary" and go to bed.
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Robert wrote:
ALL queers should be required by law to be celibate.
Mandatory castration would protect the little boys.
Yikes!
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Little boys run and hide from Robert Scissorhands
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Robert sounds like a real plan. That will fix them.

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Catholic Girl wrote:
Good idea for this parish to clean house. truth is the only way to go. Hopefully those poor souls will see the light before it's to late.
Now say a "Hail Mary" and go to bed.
Oh, yes, kiss the Poop's ring, sorry POPE'S ring.

Why you listen to the old 'Crypt Keeper' faced pope is beyond me. He dresses in frilly robes and lacy petticoats and lovely red shoes and has never had sex, with a woman. THAT is your idea of masculinity?

I wonder if he has special hooks for all those outfits by his toilet for when he takes his Holy Sh*ts? Or does some poor young priest, or unfortunate nun, have to hold the blessed robes up while he grunts one out?
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<quoted text>Oh, yes, kiss the Poop's ring, sorry POPE'S ring.
Why you listen to the old 'Crypt Keeper' faced pope is beyond me. He dresses in frilly robes and lacy petticoats and lovely red shoes and has never had sex, with a woman. THAT is your idea of masculinity?
I wonder if he has special hooks for all those outfits by his toilet for when he takes his Holy Sh*ts? Or does some poor young priest, or unfortunate nun, have to hold the blessed robes up while he grunts one out?
It would be an honor to kiss the Pope's ring. Why listen to the old crypt keeper? Because he is God's representative on earth and head of our true church. As for the frilly petticoats and other things, all these things have meaning. Who's saying anything about masculinity? did you just wake up from a deep sleep? And no, no one helps him while discharging human waste. He is a good kind hearted man. By the way, he dresses in todays attire when not in public eye or in a ceromony.
Perhaps it would benefit you to say a prayer, like the "Our Father". It certainly would not hurt.
Take care and keep up the humor. just keep it clean please

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