Steven Smith | Condemnation doesn't belong in today's Christianity

Dec 9, 2013 Full story: Centre Daily Times 52

Two recent clergy columns - by the Rev. Kenneth Codner, of Spring Mills, on Saturday and by Bishop Council Nedd II, of Pine Grove Mills, on Nov. 16 - call for comment.

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The Real Truth

Lancaster, PA

#22 Mar 25, 2014
It is documented case law fact that the "religious organization" with the highest per capita ratio of child molestation is that of the JW sect....

As of the 2013 finding it was documented that the ratio was over 300% higher then the rest of Christendom.

Oh geez......facts don't lie.......
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#23 Mar 26, 2014
A pathological liar expects people to believe what he says is truth, it is very evident you do not know any witnesses.

Jehovah's witnesses are all imperfect human beings, some are making more progress than others, becoming spiritually mature. Some can never make the true Christian way of life their way of life, so they eventually get exposed or leave on their own. 2Peter 2:21

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#24 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
A pathological liar expects people to believe what he says is truth, it is very evident you do not know any witnesses.
Jehovah's witnesses are all imperfect human beings, some are making more progress than others, becoming spiritually mature. Some can never make the true Christian way of life their way of life, so they eventually get exposed or leave on their own. 2Peter 2:21
Do you expect your predictions about the demise of other Churches and the failure of certain Christians, including Christian people who you do not personally know and Christian organizations in which you do not participate and have never attended, to be believed as truth?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#25 Mar 27, 2014
RevKen wrote:
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Do you expect your predictions about the demise of other Churches and the failure of certain Christians, including Christian people who you do not personally know and Christian organizations in which you do not participate and have never attended, to be believed as truth?
All professed Christians today, no matter what religion, have the Scriptural direction from Jesus' own words to adjust their thinking to God's will being done on earth today. Unless they are in agreement and joined in unity with God's named people, Jehovah's witnesses, they remain in this world of darkness and will be removed off this earth at Armageddon.
John 17:3
Matthew 22:37-39

That is prophetic truth.
Matthew 24:14

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#26 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
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All professed Christians today, no matter what religion, have the Scriptural direction from Jesus' own words to adjust their thinking to God's will being done on earth today. Unless they are in agreement and joined in unity with God's named people, Jehovah's witnesses, they remain in this world of darkness and will be removed off this earth at Armageddon.
John 17:3
Matthew 22:37-39
That is prophetic truth.
Matthew 24:14
So anyone who is NOT a Jehovah's Witness is going to Hell (even the Lutherans ?!) Is that what you're saying ?!
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#27 Mar 27, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
I suppose that TEC will therefore reject Jesus, His Father and His Spirit because they condemn the ungodly.
Any church that admits that it is embarrassed by the Scriptures either don't know what the Scriptures teach or they have an agenda which they know disagrees with Scripture.
Look for more losses - either in membership or members quitting attending but not removed by their churches in TEC.
Go similarly rail about those who unrepentantly covet or take the lawd's name in vain and then we'll know you don't merely have some psychosexual issue with homosexuality.
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses are all imperfect human beings
Darn right they are, and the need Mormonism, right quick. Or they won't be saved or get their planet or whatnot. Shame!
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#29 Mar 27, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
So anyone who is NOT a Jehovah's Witness is going to Hell (even the Lutherans ?!) Is that what you're saying ?!
Anyone who does not worship Almighty God Jehovah, as Jesus taught and did, will be removed off this earth at Armageddon, there is no fire punishment from Jehovah God, that false doctrine is from the Roman Catholic religion, and not true. John 5:28,29

The symbolic lake of fire, means you will cease to exist, there is no resurrection from the second death at Armageddon, as there will be a resurrection back to life on earth from Adamic death for all those who are in the grave, wherever they were laid to rest in peace.
Revelation 20:12-14
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#30 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
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Anyone who does not worship
Keep us posted when there's new developments, troll.

Then we can all sign up at the last second.
Troof Says

Lancaster, PA

#31 Mar 27, 2014
What do the years 1875, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1925, 1950, 1964, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2008, 2012 have in common?

Why that's when the Anointed Body of JW Elders predicted that the world would end.

Maybe their direct line to Jehovah God was disconnected....
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#32 Mar 27, 2014
Troof Says wrote:
What do the years 1875, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1925, 1950, 1964, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2008, 2012 have in common?
Why that's when the Anointed Body of JW Elders predicted that the world would end.
Maybe their direct line to Jehovah God was disconnected....
Imperfect men do make mistakes and learn from them, the prophetic dates given by Jehovah's witnesses have been fulfillment of Bible prophecy, just not the understanding some had, that does not mean 1975 was invalid, according to that year, Adam was created as the first human being 6000 years before. The Bible is still found accurate in prophetic history, and carbon dating is still only able to date 6000 years, no more for accuracy only guessing.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#33 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Imperfect men do make mistakes and learn from them, the prophetic dates given by Jehovah's witnesses have been fulfillment of Bible prophecy, just not the understanding some had, that does not mean 1975 was invalid, according to that year, Adam was created as the first human being 6000 years before. The Bible is still found accurate in prophetic history, and carbon dating is still only able to date 6000 years, no more for accuracy only guessing.
and to this day NO ONE will know when the end is here or IF there ever will be one.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#34 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
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Imperfect men do make mistakes and learn from them, the prophetic dates given by Jehovah's witnesses have been fulfillment of Bible prophecy, just not the understanding some had, that does not mean 1975 was invalid, according to that year, Adam was created as the first human being 6000 years before. The Bible is still found accurate in prophetic history, and carbon dating is still only able to date 6000 years, no more for accuracy only guessing.
Dear TCW,

The accuracy of radiocarbon dating has been very carefully calibrated. It is very accurate to at least 52,000 years past.

Take your time to read at these URLs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/car...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dati...

You really should take time to get a better understanding of these things. They are diligently researched and thoroughly, rigorously tested.

Let go of your misconceptions. Hold on to your Faith and find a proper acceptance of known and understood scientific facts. The two can and should actually coexist.

There are many modern and very accurate radiometric dating techniques that utilize the age-length of the half-life of isotopes other than carbon 14. Carbon 14 has a calibrated half-life of about 5,730 years. Some Xenon and Uranium isotopes have half-life decay constants measured at over ten million years.

TCW, I'm not here to "pop" your bubble of belief. But, I do insist that you do your own research and arrive at reasonable conclusions by educating yourself.

We know a whole lot more about Jehovah God's wonderful Creation today than we Humans knew 2000 years ago.

The Earth is figured, quite accurately, to be about 4.5 billion years old. The fact that it has taken God a very long time to create this wonderful, life-filled world is an incredibly amazing realization. There is no reason for anyone to be any less than truly amazed and humbled by the reality.

God is real. Creation is real. Let truth be revealed and understood.

When an inaccuracy is found, such as the claim for the occurrence of Armageddon to happen in 1975, one must not make excuses for the error.

Rev. Ken

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#35 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Anyone who does not worship Almighty God Jehovah, as Jesus taught and did, will be removed off this earth at Armageddon, there is no fire punishment from Jehovah God, that false doctrine is from the Roman Catholic religion, and not true. John 5:28,29
So you pray, but remain completely unqualified to provide His answer. God decides who gets it right, not His Jehovah Witnesses, nor any other Christian for that matter. Haven't you read the book? It isn't your call to make, it is His, no matter how many Bible verses you can claim support you. Don't forget, your entire denomination arose from somebody reading the Bible and getting it wrong.
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#36 Mar 27, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
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Imperfect men do make mistakes and learn from them, the prophetic dates given by Jehovah's witnesses
I hope the J W's returned all the donations when they got the basics wrong...after braying with such certainty about our appointment with the end.

If my dentist were so sloppy about appointments...oh wait, he is. Praise!

Go argue it out with a mormon, troll.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#37 Mar 28, 2014
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you expect your predictions about the demise of other Churches and the failure of certain Christians, including Christian people who you do not personally know and Christian organizations in which you do not participate and have never attended, to be believed as truth?
They've predicted at least five different dates for the end times and had to eat their predictions the four previous times. Why should anyone think they can predict anything with a degree of accuracy that exceeds random hit and miss? They are the only "true" religion and God waited until the late 1800's to reveal that truth to the world? Or are they just another heretical cult? HMM! I wonder!!!

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#38 Mar 28, 2014
Troof Says wrote:
What do the years 1875, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1925, 1950, 1964, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2008, 2012 have in common?
Why that's when the Anointed Body of JW Elders predicted that the world would end.
Maybe their direct line to Jehovah God was disconnected....
Maybe it never existed?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#39 Mar 28, 2014
Noah had to build an ark, and preach that the end was coming, and to be saved the people who wanted life had to enter and remain in the ark. Noah and his family preached for many years, and no one obeyed Noah's direction from Jehovah God, only Noah and his family survived.
Genesis 7:23,24

Jehovah's witnesses are doing the same work Noah did, except we are telling people they must obey the Law of Christ, as Jesus taught.
Jesus said, only a few will find the one road to life, and it will not be easy to remain on it, if you want to be in the spiritual ark of protection today, you will need to be educated in Scriptural direction from the subjects of God's Kingdom heavenly government, ruling over God's named people, Jehovah's witnesses.
Acts 15:14

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#40 Mar 28, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Noah had to build an ark, and preach that the end was coming, and to be saved the people who wanted life had to enter and remain in the ark. Noah and his family preached for many years, and no one obeyed Noah's direction from Jehovah God, only Noah and his family survived.
Genesis 7:23,24
Jehovah's witnesses are doing the same work Noah did, except we are telling people they must obey the Law of Christ, as Jesus taught.
Jesus said, only a few will find the one road to life, and it will not be easy to remain on it, if you want to be in the spiritual ark of protection today, you will need to be educated in Scriptural direction from the subjects of God's Kingdom heavenly government, ruling over God's named people, Jehovah's witnesses.
Acts 15:14
And what if your beliefs are wrong? They are, after all, just beliefs.

What if flood happen because of an excess of sunshine caused greater evaporation leading to greater precipitation, not it happened because God was angry? What if volcanos erupt wiping out whole cities, because of an imbalance in pressure below the earth's crust lead to a catastrophic failure, nor it happened because God was angry?

You are entitled to your foolishness, just as others are entitled to their own beliefs.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#41 Mar 28, 2014
lides wrote:
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And what if your beliefs are wrong? They are, after all, just beliefs.
What if flood happen because of an excess of sunshine caused greater evaporation leading to greater precipitation, not it happened because God was angry? What if volcanos erupt wiping out whole cities, because of an imbalance in pressure below the earth's crust lead to a catastrophic failure, nor it happened because God was angry?
You are entitled to your foolishness, just as others are entitled to their own beliefs.
He gave a rainbow to say that the earth would never flood again.....from what I've heard. And all of the other "natural disasters" happen every year. Not b/c of an angry God or gay people.

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