Obama Announces Full Support for Gay Marriage

[WasteWater]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

Look at the state of gay rights in Russia! This is real ignorance and hate folks.
http://www.sunherald.com/2013/01/21/4418039/r...

Yes it certainly is.

[Frankie Rizzo]

WasteWater wrote:

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Yes it certainly is.

That sucks! I had no idea it was so bad. Looks like Russia is slipping back to their old evil ways.

Buncha real fkn jackasses!

[WasteWater]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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That sucks! I had no idea it was so bad. Looks like Russia is slipping back to their old evil ways.
Buncha real fkn jackasses!

This is how change happens. Times of change are always difficult. It reminds me of sales. Every sale start with a refusal right?

[Frankie Rizzo]

Oscar Wilder One wrote:

<quoted text>HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, BEING GAY SI NOT A HAPPY THING.
HOORAY FOR RUSSIA. NOW, GO LIVE THERE GAYS.
By MANSUR MIROVALEV — Associated Press
MOSCOW — Kissing his boyfriend during a protest in front of Russia's parliament earned Pavel Samburov 30 hours of detention and the equivalent of a $16 fine on a charge of "hooliganism." But if a bill that comes up for a first vote later this month becomes law, such a public kiss could be defined as illegal "homosexual propaganda" and bring a fine of up to $16,000.
The legislation being pushed by the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church would make it illegal nationwide to provide minors with information that is defined as "propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexuality and transgenderism." It includes a ban on holding public events that promote gay rights. St. Petersburg and a number of other Russian cities already have similar laws on their books.
Read more here: http://www.sunherald.com/2013/01/21/4418039/r...

Aw shuddup Jackass! You're a HOOLIGAN!

[Frankie Rizzo]

Oscar Wilder One wrote:

<quoted text>At what age did your daddy call you Fruitloops or did he just loop you and steal your fruits????? sucker.

He didn't.

At what age did your daddy do it?

[Quest]

Oscar Wilder One wrote:

<quoted text>HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, BEING GAY SI NOT A HAPPY THING.
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It is for most gay folks.

[Pietro Armando]

http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/08/love-american-s...

WND EXCLUSIVE
LOVE, AMERICAN STYLE: POLYGAMY GETS SIZZLE
'We should strive to have it legalized'

Is polygamy becoming the new “gay” movement in America?

With television shows such as HBO’s “Big Love” and TLC’s “Sister Wives,” polygamy is the once-taboo lifestyle that appears to be gaining wider acceptance – especially on the heels of homosexual marriage victories across the nation.

Just this weekend, the website Pro-Polygamy.com declared Aug. 19 the 12th annual Polygamy Day. According to the site, since it began,“the annual celebration grew into a widespread and religiously-neutral individual celebration around the country among all forms of consenting-adult pro-polygamists.”

Historically, polygamy has had little support in the U.S. since the Republican Party in 1854 declared it, along with slavery, one of the “twin relics of barbarism,” and Congress banned it in 1862.

However, recent decisions of activist judges that thrust homosexual marriage on the American public are now being used, chapter and verse, to argue for legalization of polygamy.

While spouse collecting is still illegal in the United States, polygamy is apparently thriving – and not where most Americans might expect.

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[Pietro Armando]

Polygamists in America

The mainstream media tend to focus on polygamists who belong to the Fundamentalist Church of the Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Utah, Arizona,Texas and Colorado.

Polygamy made national headlines in two high-profile cases in recent years: In 2007, FLDS leader Warren Jeffs was convicted of sex crimes charges.(Jeffs is estimated to have more than 50 wives and is reportedly issuing edicts from his prison cell.) And in 2008, authorities raided a Texas FLDS compound called the YFZ Ranch, and found six men guilty of child sexual assault.

Various estimates made through the years put the number of FLDS members between 15,000 and 60,000.

But Muslim men in America are marrying multiple wives as well.

In fact, a 2008 NPR report estimated between 50,000 and 100,000 Muslims in the U.S. live in polygamous families.

A search of a popular Muslim “singles” dating site revealed more than 1,000 results for married Muslim men – located in the United States – who are openly seeking additional wives.

For the parameters of WND’s search, only married Muslim men who live in the U.S. and are interested in taking another wife were selected.

The search returned more than 1,000 results – so many, the site recommending refining criteria because there were too many matches.

WND found active profiles for married Muslim men seeking additional wives in every U.S. state (and Washington, D.C.)– except Alaska.

Most of the men were in New York, New Jersey, California, Virginia, Texas, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Maryland.

[Pietro Armando]

The prophet Muhammad is said to have had dozens of wives.

Since polygamy is against the law in the U.S., NPR explains how Muslims still manage to have multiple spouses.

“Here’s how a man gets around the laws: He marries one woman under civil law, and then marries one, two or three others in religious ceremonies that are not recognized by the state. In other cases, men marry women in both America and abroad.

“Many women keep quiet for fear of retribution or deportation.”

New Jersey family law attorney Abed Awad told NPR many Muslim men see polygamous marriages as an opportunity to have many children, which is seen as a blessing in Islam.

Because the religion only allows men to have sex in a marital relationship, marrying multiple wives can be a way to legitimize sex with several partners. In some cases, men seek wives for temporary marriages called Mut’ah marriages or “pleasure marriages,” that can last for years – or merely hours.(Some imams condemn the practice of temporary marriages.)

“What is the problem? If he is not happy with the first marriage, why he stay all the life like this?” asked Mona, a Palestinian woman with six children who divorced and remarried into a polygamous relationship in Patterson, N.J.“You know, my religion is good because it gives man and woman another chance to be happy.”

[Pietro Armando]

The rest can be read via the link

[Frankie Rizzo]

Pietro Armando wrote:

The rest can be read via the link

Let me predict the general response from the SSM community-

Same sex marriage GOOD!

Polygamy BAD!

And/Or

Polygamy is a red herring and a straw man and off topic!(With little foot stomps and clenched fisties!)

[Pietro Armando]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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Let me predict the general response from the SSM community-
Same sex marriage GOOD!
Polygamy BAD!
And/Or
Polygamy is a red herring and a straw man and off topic!(With little foot stomps and clenched fisties!)

It would be interesting, considering the Muslim support for polygamy, to see if SSMers opposition to Islamic poly is the same as it is for Christian poly marriage.

SSMers....thoughts?

[Just Think]

Pietro Armando wrote:

The rest can be read via the link

Dude...World Nut Daily? Really?

[Frankie Rizzo]

Just Think wrote:

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Dude...World Nut Daily? Really?

He's so silly right?

Everyone knows for the truth you must go only to the Huffington Post!

[Frankie Rizzo]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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It would be interesting, considering the Muslim support for polygamy, to see if SSMers opposition to Islamic poly is the same as it is for Christian poly marriage.
SSMers....thoughts?

Christian polygamists- VERY BAD!

Islamic polygamists- NOT so bad!

Something like that?

[Pietro Armando]

Just Think wrote:

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Dude...World Nut Daily? Really?

Are you objecting to the messenger, or the message?

[Pietro Armando]

Frankie Rizzo wrote:

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Let me predict the general response from the SSM community-
Same sex marriage GOOD!

But of course.....its a secular sacred cow. Only "progressive" societies have SSM.

Polygamy BAD!

UGH. POLYGAMY NOT LIKE SSM.....POLYGAMY NOT "EQUAL".... ONLY CAVEMEN LIKE ME WANT POLYGAMY.

And/Or
Polygamy is a red herring and a straw man and off topic!(With little foot stomps and clenched fisties!)

There's only so much equality to go around. Some are more equal than others.

[Just Think]

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Are you objecting to the messenger, or the message?

I never read cut and paste spam...I figure if someone has a thought they will write their own words.

As for World Nut Daily - they believe and promote whacked out crap on such a level that anyone who references them as a "source" immediately becomes laughable.

[Pietro Armando]

Just Think wrote:

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I never read cut and paste spam...I figure if someone has a thought they will write their own words.
As for World Nut Daily - they believe and promote whacked out crap on such a level that anyone who references them as a "source" immediately becomes laughable.

There are Muslim polygamist communities in this country. Dismiss the messenger, but the message is the same.

[Pietro Armando]

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/296493... #

With the legal definition of marriage expanding in various U.S. states, as it has in other nations, should we anticipate rising demands that we recognize polygamous marriages? Debra Majeed, an academic apologist for Islamic polygamy, has tried to downplay such concerns, claiming that “opponents of same-sex unions, rather than proponents of polygyny as practiced by Muslims, are the usual sources of arguments that a door open to one would encourage a more visible practice of the other.” Yet some American Muslims apparently did not get the memo.

Because off-the-cuff remarks can be the most revealing, consider a tweet by Moein Khawaja, executive director of the Philadelphia branch of the radical Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). After New York legalized same-sex marriage last June, Khawaja expressed what many Islamists must have been thinking:“Easy to support gay marriage today bc it’s mainstream. Lets see same people go to bat for polygamy, its the same argument.*crickets*”

The “same argument” theme is fleshed out in an October 2011 piece titled “Polygamy: Tis the Season?” in the Muslim Link, a newspaper serving the Washington and Baltimore areas.“There are murmurs among the polygamist community as the country moves toward the legalization of gay marriage,” it explains.“As citizens of the United States, they argue, they should have the right to legally marry whoever they please, or however many they please.” The story quotes several Muslim advocates of polygamy.“As far as legalization, I think they should,” says Hassan Amin, a Baltimore imam who performs polygamous religious unions.“We should strive to have it legalized because Allah has already legalized it.”

Again and again the article connects the normalization of same-sex marriage and Islamic polygamy.“As states move toward legalizing gay marriage, the criminalization of polygamy is a seemingly striking inconsistency in constitutional law,” it asserts.“Be it gay marriage or polygamous marriage, the rights of the people should not be based on their popularity but rather on the constitutional laws that are meant to protect them.”