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Obama Announces Full Support for Gay Marriage

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It's a historic day for gay rights activists: Obama has just announced his support for gay marriage.

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Ravianna

Newport, OR

#22483 Oct 10, 2012
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "gay rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "gay rights" and that should scare people.

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#22484 Oct 10, 2012
Ravianna wrote:
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "gay rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "gay rights" and that should scare people.
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "Religious rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "Religious rights" and that should scare people.

See, by changing a word......you can make a case for why we shouldn't allow politicians to pander to any special rights groups or who can donate the right amount of money!!!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#22485 Oct 11, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "Religious rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "Religious rights" and that should scare people.
See, by changing a word......you can make a case for why we shouldn't allow politicians to pander to any special rights groups or who can donate the right amount of money!!!
Rose, the reality is, virtually all of us have some special interest, whether it is based on home ownership, occupation, relationship status, or children, to name a few.

Since: Mar 07

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#22486 Oct 11, 2012
Ravianna wrote:
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "gay rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "gay rights" and that should scare people.
What about politicians that use "anti gay rights", such as Ryan, Romney and others, to gain political power with certain powerful groups?

Do they also scare you?

Since: Aug 11

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#22487 Oct 11, 2012
Ravianna wrote:
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "gay rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "gay rights" and that should scare people.
Excuse me. Aren't politics about people's interests? Don't the wealthy 1% dump millions of dollars into promoting Republican candidates so they can avoid paying taxes?

WAKE UP.

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#22488 Oct 11, 2012
Quest wrote:
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What about politicians that use "anti gay rights", such as Ryan, Romney and others, to gain political power with certain powerful groups?
Do they also scare you?
No, because they are not anti-gay...they are anti-gay marriage...not the same thing at all....

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#22489 Oct 11, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Excuse me. Aren't politics about people's interests? Don't the wealthy 1% dump millions of dollars into promoting Republican candidates so they can avoid paying taxes?
WAKE UP.
http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income...
What percentage of the total tax burden does that 1% pay?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#22490 Oct 11, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
No, because they are not anti-gay...they are anti-gay marriage...not the same thing at all....
According to whom, dear?

Hon, when you enact laws and amendments to make the lives of Lesbian and Gay couples as legally miserable as possible, offer them minimal rights, if any at all, fight against local ordinances that offer them equal protection, advocate for groups which exist for no other purpose than to rationalize discrimination against the gay folk, even if they have to just out and out lie to do so and on and on and on; attempting to claim that it really isn't because you are against the gay folk is a tough sell being on the receiving end of your rationalization.

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#22491 Oct 11, 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-197379...
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The bizarre marriage of Religion and Sta
te that goes on in Germany; where if they play their legal corporate statuses right, they get the state to fleece their respective flocks for them? Or the Catholic Church hierarchy self-immolating, by screaming like money grubbing wh*res demanding payment for their tricks from those faithful who aren't as faithful with their required taxes?
All Germans who are officially registered as Catholics, Protestants or Jews pay a religious tax, worth an extra 8-9% of their income tax bill.

This had been challenged by a retired law professor who said he wanted to remain a Catholic but not pay the tax.

Last week, a new bishops' decree warned that anyone not paying the tax would be denied the right to religious rites.

The German church levy was introduced in 1803 in compensation for the nationalisation of religious property.

In 2011, the Catholic Church received 5bn euros (£4bn; $6.4bn) and the Protestant Church 4.5bn euros from taxpayers, each adding up to the bulk of the churches' income, the BBC's Berlin correspondent Stephen Evans said.

He added that this arrangement, whereby the state collects taxes on behalf of religious groups and then reimburses them, was unusual in
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The bizarre marriage of Religion and State that goes on in Germany; where if they play their legal corporate statuses right, they get the state to fleece their respective flocks for them? Or the Catholic Church hierarchy self-immolating, by screaming like money grubbing wh*res demanding payment for their tricks from those faithful who aren't as faithful with their required taxes?
All Germans who are officially registered as Catholics, Protestants or Jews pay a religious tax, worth an extra 8-9% of their income tax bill.

This had been challenged by a retired law professor who said he wanted to remain a Catholic but not pay the tax.

Last week, a new bishops' decree warned that anyone not paying the tax would be denied the right to religious rites.

The German church levy was introduced in 1803 in compensation for the nationalisation of religious property.

In 2011, the Catholic Church received 5bn euros (£4bn; $6.4bn) and the Protestant Church 4.5bn euros from taxpayers, each adding up to the bulk of the churches' income, the BBC's Berlin correspondent Stephen Evans said.

He added that this arrangement, whereby the state collects taxes on behalf of religious groups and then reimburses them, was unusual in western societies.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#22492 Oct 11, 2012
Okay, somehow I double pasted on that last post.

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Since: Sep 08

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#22493 Oct 11, 2012
Ravianna wrote:
I think people should be disgusted with politicians who use so-called "gay rights" to gain power. Even if the politicians are among the most incompetent, naive, arrogant people in the world a lot of people vote for them because they are for "gay rights" and that should scare people.
It's equally as scary when people DO NOT vote for a qualified candidate simply because they DO support gay rights.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#22494 Oct 11, 2012
RatherBeInMissouri wrote:
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It's equally as scary when people DO NOT vote for a qualified candidate simply because they DO support gay rights.
Or what color they are, or what church they belong to perhaps?

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#22495 Oct 11, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Or what color they are, or what church they belong to perhaps?
Indeed.

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#22496 Oct 12, 2012
Pietro Armando wrote:
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http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income...
What percentage of the total tax burden does that 1% pay?
According to your source, 36.75% while the top 50% pay 97.75%.

Thanks for the info. Suppose we deduct 36 from 97 and get 61. Your source shows they are not paying their fair share.

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Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#22497 Oct 12, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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According to your source, 36.75% while the top 50% pay 97.75%.
Thanks for the info. Suppose we deduct 36 from 97 and get 61. Your source shows they are not paying their fair share.
So what you are saying is the top 50% pay 61% while the top 1% pay 36.75%. That doesn't seem fair to me.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#22498 Oct 12, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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According to your source, 36.75% while the top 50% pay 97.75%.
Thanks for the info. Suppose we deduct 36 from 97 and get 61. Your source shows they are not paying their fair share.
I keep hearing this "fair share" crap, but NO ONE that uses that mantra can tell me what their "fair share" actually is.
They also can not tell me what my "fair share" is.
How about you?
Will >you< be the first one to answer that question?

What is my fair share? Is it a certain percentage of my income, or is it a flat fee of some kind that would satisfy you that I have paid my "fair share"?
What is my "fair share"?
What is YOUR "fair share"?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#22499 Oct 12, 2012
LuLu Ford wrote:
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So what you are saying is the top 50% pay 61% while the top 1% pay 36.75%. That doesn't seem fair to me.
What would be "fair" in those two cases?

Since: Aug 11

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#22500 Oct 13, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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I keep hearing this "fair share" crap, but NO ONE that uses that mantra can tell me what their "fair share" actually is.
They also can not tell me what my "fair share" is.
How about you?
Will >you< be the first one to answer that question?
What is my fair share? Is it a certain percentage of my income, or is it a flat fee of some kind that would satisfy you that I have paid my "fair share"?
What is my "fair share"?
What is YOUR "fair share"?
Fair share is a flat tax.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#22501 Oct 13, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Fair share is a flat tax.
Meaning what exactly?
Meaning a flat income tax percentage across the board irregardless of income?
Meaning a flat singular set fee that is payable by any and all irregardless of income?

If you mean the former, then I agree.

Since: Oct 08

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#22502 Oct 13, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Fair share is a flat tax.
For all.

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