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What Every American Should Know about the Biblical “Definitions” of Marriage

There are 12 comments on the www.forwardprogressives.com story from Jul 7, 2013, titled What Every American Should Know about the Biblical “Definitions” of Marriage. In it, www.forwardprogressives.com reports that:

For the love of God—literally—please share this article with anyone you know who maintains there is such a thing as a ‘Biblical Definition of Marriage’ in any manner approaching what chicken fast food executives, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the deluded Christian Right spouts.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.forwardprogressives.com.

Zachariahs Third Husband

Alpharetta, GA

#1 Jul 7, 2013
So Solomon married 700 wives and 300 concubines
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1000 women all married to each other is the biggest gay marriage in the entire Bible (not to mention polygamous)
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Solomon would need a parade permit and 25 Greyhound buses to carry 1000 wives to Victrola's Secret to buy fresh batteries

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#2 Jul 7, 2013
1 COR. 7:36 ("But if a man thinketh that he behaveth himself unseemly toward his virgin daughter...and if need so requireth, let him do what he will; he sinneth not; let them marry"--(American Standard Version)

When a heterosexual male desires to molest his virgin daughter it is not a sin, but they should get married before he acts on his desires.

Way to go Christians!
Christian Christian

Wylie, TX

#3 Jul 7, 2013
I Corinthian 7:36 "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry."

Your version is definitely perverted. This means towards his own virgin wife to be.(It does not state that it is his own virgin or his daughter ; it could easily mean women unmarried slaves back then) That before a man acts on his thoughts, he should do the right thing and propose marriage to her. You also omitted the valuable passage about being at the right age before he should think of marrying the virgin he is attracted to.

Please stop perverting the Bible, if you do not understand it, pray for understanding. You took it out context and did not take into account how Paul defined a wife and a virgin. You are entitled to your own opinion but Chapter 7:1-10 clearly explains what marriage is about, a divine union between a man and a woman or husband and wife.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#4 Jul 7, 2013
Christian Christian wrote:
I Corinthian 7:36 "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry."
Your version is definitely perverted. This means towards his own virgin wife to be.(It does not state that it is his own virgin or his daughter ; it could easily mean women unmarried slaves back then) That before a man acts on his thoughts, he should do the right thing and propose marriage to her. You also omitted the valuable passage about being at the right age before he should think of marrying the virgin he is attracted to.
Please stop perverting the Bible, if you do not understand it, pray for understanding. You took it out context and did not take into account how Paul defined a wife and a virgin. You are entitled to your own opinion but Chapter 7:1-10 clearly explains what marriage is about, a divine union between a man and a woman or husband and wife.
Since it's all nothing more than myths anyway, no need to even care what it states other than those interested in examples of the most barbaric time in our species' history.

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#5 Jul 8, 2013
Why do LGBTQ people believe in religious fictions in the first place? The scientific and atheist communities accept and tell the fact that being LGBTQ is normal, yet they reject dependable allies in favour of religious ignorance and hate.

Religious rules only apply to people who belong to the religions. Religion has no place in government or laws.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#6 Jul 8, 2013
Christian Christian wrote:
I Corinthian 7:36 "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry."
Your version is definitely perverted. This means towards his own virgin wife to be.(It does not state that it is his own virgin or his daughter ; it could easily mean women unmarried slaves back then) That before a man acts on his thoughts, he should do the right thing and propose marriage to her. You also omitted the valuable passage about being at the right age before he should think of marrying the virgin he is attracted to.
Please stop perverting the Bible, if you do not understand it, pray for understanding. You took it out context and did not take into account how Paul defined a wife and a virgin. You are entitled to your own opinion but Chapter 7:1-10 clearly explains what marriage is about, a divine union between a man and a woman or husband and wife.
If you don't like what the 233 English versions of the Bible say then take it up with the translators. Don't bother me with your dog and pony show.

You pathetic apologists always claim "out of context, out of context" but you never show how the meaning is changed being put back into context, in context or out of context the meaning is the same.

All you are offering is your opinion as to which version or versions to select from. ALL of them claim to be the word of God and all of them contradict one another.

MARK 1:1 ("The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ"--NI, LB, JB, TEV, NWT) versus ("The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ"--KJ, RS, ML, AS, BBE, NEB, NAB, NAS, LV). The former does not say Jesus wrote the Book of Mark while the latter all but says he did.

MARK 15:39 ("...Truly this man was the son of God"--KJ, RS, NI, AS, NAB, TEV, NAS, LV) versus ("...In truth this man was a son of God"--JB, BBE, NEB). "A" son clearly means there could be other sons of God while "the" son does not.

LUKE 1:27 ("To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph...."--KJ, ML, LB, RS, JB, NI, AS, BBE, NAB, NWT, NAS, LV) versus ("...with a message for a girl betrothed to a man named Joseph...."--NEB, TEV). The latter translation does not support the idea of a virgin birth.

LUKE 2:33 ("Joseph and his mother marveled at those things which were spoken"--KJ, LB, LV) versus ("his father and his mother marveled at what was said...."--RS, ML, JB, NI, AS, BBE, NEB, NAB, TEV, NWT, NAS). Except for the Living Bible and the LV no modern version in our list supports the KJ. They all imply there was no virgin birth because Joseph is equated with his mother by being called his father. The second group clearly implies that Joseph was as much his father as Mary was his mother.

LUKE 2:43 ("...and Joseph and his mother knew not of it"--KJ, LV) versus ("His parents did not know of it"--RS, LB, ML, JB, NI, AS, NEB, NAB, TEV, NWT, NAS). Again every one of our versions says Joseph was the father of Jesus except the KJ and LV. Only the latter imply Joseph was not his father and there was a virgin birth.

LUKE 17:21 ("...the Kingdom of God is within you"--KJ, LB, AS, TEV, NWT, NI, LV) versus ("...the Kingdom of God is among you"--RS, ML, JB, BBE, NEB, NAB, NAS). Whether or not the Kingdom of God is within you or outside is of theological importance.

JOHN 1:26, 31, 33 ("...I baptize with water"--KJ, ML, RS, LB, JB, BBE, NAB, TEV, NI, LV) versus ("...I baptize in water...."--AS, NEB, NWT, NAS). No wonder some support baptism by sprinkling ("with water") while others believe in baptism by immersion ("in water").

JOHN 10:29 ("My Father who has given them to me <Jesus> is greater than all...."--KJ, ML, LB, RS, JB, AS, NEB, NAB, NAS, NI, LV) versus ("What my Father has given me is greater than anything...."--BBE, TEV, NWT). Which is greater than all? God or what God has given to Jesus?

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#7 Jul 8, 2013
P_Smith wrote:
Why do LGBTQ people believe in religious fictions in the first place? The scientific and atheist communities accept and tell the fact that being LGBTQ is normal, yet they reject dependable allies in favour of religious ignorance and hate.
Religious rules only apply to people who belong to the religions. Religion has no place in government or laws.
Nicely said. Unfortunately Christians are devious and are still pissed off that we are not officially a Christian Theocracy like Hitler created in Germany before WW2. People believe what they are told and Christians love to be the ones talking. They continue to enjoy special favors from the Government and they continue to use them to deceive people with their deceptive tactics.

When most of the people around you, as you are growing up believe something, it becomes your baggage. Very weak Lesbians and Gays still believe in the Christian baggage they still carry around. They either pretend the anti-gay parts aren't important just like heterosexual Christians pretend they do not have to sell all they own and give the money to the poor. Or perhaps they fight their real and natural inner desires and hate themselves for having them, then they visit here and harass gay people all day long.

No one has ever shown them where the Bible fails. Or where the pro-gay verses are.

Mark 16:17-18, which says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lays hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

No one is willing to prove that they are a believer because all of them know the Bible is full of lies. This is one lie we can prove, contrary to what the Bible teaches, drinking a quart of Draino will kill you.

I wish all those who claim to believe had to drink a quart of Draino to prove their faith. We'd discover right away that America is NOT a Christian nation but one full of unbelievers, or Atheists.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#8 Jul 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Since it's all nothing more than myths anyway, no need to even care what it states other than those interested in examples of the most barbaric time in our species' history.
We can prove it is myth. And we need to do so, saying it is myth is not enough, we must quote the god-damned thing and prove it.

Mark 16:17-18, which says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lays hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Ask those claiming to be believers to drink a quart of Draino and you will quickly see that no one believes or trusts what the Bible teaches. No one, we are a nation of non-believers and here is the proof.
WestCoaster

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jul 8, 2013
Yet this is EXACTLY what the Xtians do against gays. Pick and choose the parts of the bybull that support their view and ignore the rest. You start by not doing this to us and we'll stop doing it back at ya. Deal?
Christian Christian wrote:
I Corinthian 7:36 "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry."
Your version is definitely perverted. This means towards his own virgin wife to be.(It does not state that it is his own virgin or his daughter ; it could easily mean women unmarried slaves back then) That before a man acts on his thoughts, he should do the right thing and propose marriage to her. You also omitted the valuable passage about being at the right age before he should think of marrying the virgin he is attracted to.
Please stop perverting the Bible, if you do not understand it, pray for understanding. You took it out context and did not take into account how Paul defined a wife and a virgin. You are entitled to your own opinion but Chapter 7:1-10 clearly explains what marriage is about, a divine union between a man and a woman or husband and wife.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10 Jul 8, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
We can prove it is myth. And we need to do so, saying it is myth is not enough, we must quote the god-damned thing and prove it.
Mark 16:17-18, which says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lays hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
Ask those claiming to be believers to drink a quart of Draino and you will quickly see that no one believes or trusts what the Bible teaches. No one, we are a nation of non-believers and here is the proof.
Incorrect, can you prove leprechauns are myths? A myth is a story that has not been substantiated with verifiable supporting evidence, by default all stories are myth, legends, and lore until something supports or suggests otherwise, or the story is inconsequential such as what you had for lunch yesterday. You can in no way prove anything is a myth, that is why the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not those dismissing it.

In the end, the bible is nothing but a collection of myths told by very barbaric people in a time which people lived in fear and darkness.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#11 Jul 8, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicely said. Unfortunately Christians are devious and are still pissed off that we are not officially a Christian Theocracy like Hitler created in Germany before WW2. People believe what they are told and Christians love to be the ones talking. They continue to enjoy special favors from the Government and they continue to use them to deceive people with their deceptive tactics.
When most of the people around you, as you are growing up believe something, it becomes your baggage. Very weak Lesbians and Gays still believe in the Christian baggage they still carry around. They either pretend the anti-gay parts aren't important just like heterosexual Christians pretend they do not have to sell all they own and give the money to the poor. Or perhaps they fight their real and natural inner desires and hate themselves for having them, then they visit here and harass gay people all day long.
No one has ever shown them where the Bible fails. Or where the pro-gay verses are.
Mark 16:17-18, which says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lays hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
No one is willing to prove that they are a believer because all of them know the Bible is full of lies. This is one lie we can prove, contrary to what the Bible teaches, drinking a quart of Draino will kill you.
I wish all those who claim to believe had to drink a quart of Draino to prove their faith. We'd discover right away that America is NOT a Christian nation but one full of unbelievers, or Atheists.
As a Christian who is gay, I ask that you stop slamming all of us who are NOT the type of people you are describing.

I believe in God and an after life. I am a Christian because I look at Jesus as a teacher. Your "my way or the highway" is just as repugnant as these people you are whining about.

Look in the mirror and judge yourself, and please allow me to do the same, thank you.

So I'll pass on your Draino.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#12 Jul 8, 2013
WestCoaster wrote:
Yet this is EXACTLY what the Xtians do against gays. Pick and choose the parts of the bybull that support their view and ignore the rest. You start by not doing this to us and we'll stop doing it back at ya. Deal?
<quoted text>
Thanks for pointing that out to them. But I doubt it got past their self righteous ego.

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