Traditional Marriage is a Tribe organized around economics

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As the debate rages about what is the natural couple - I ask you if we are fussing about the wrong idea.

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Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Oct 6, 2012
Like.

Since: Mar 09

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#2 Oct 7, 2012
Interesting one, "Rick".

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#3 Oct 7, 2012
Yes.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#4 Oct 7, 2012
Interesting but not all grandparents seem to want to care for grandchildren any longer. Either they retire somewhere far away and warm (or somewhere far way and cheap) or they are using their latter years to do things they could not do for themselves in earlier ones. Yes, perhaps it is selfish, but not being a parent of grandparent myself, that's not my call, one way or the other. It would be nice to hear from some gay grandparents!
Chance

Grove City, PA

#5 Oct 7, 2012
Reaching. Despite all the publicity to the contrary, the mom/dad/kids family is alive and doing quite well for a lot of people. The extended family is still there as well. In addition, people have their neighbors, their schools, and their churches to function like "tribes." If this is supposed to be a justification for "gay marriage," then it falls flat. Yes, children want and need ancestors, and it would be best if they knew who their ancestors are on both sides of their true family, which will always, always, always follow bloodlines - impossible in a world of test tube children, surrogate parenting, and sperm/egg donors. Two dads and two moms will forever be not natural and not the best way to raise children. Even in the case of adoption, children are left wondering who their biological parents are and what they are like. I've known a number of adopted people, and this is very true. While they claim their parents and grandparents, it seems adopted kids have very little connection to the entire family tree. A family with two dads or two moms will forever be a block in the search for ancestors as the descendants who come after their children will get back to them and find a missing branch.

“Child of the Universe”

Since: Aug 09

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

#6 Oct 7, 2012
Chance wrote:
Reaching. Despite all the publicity to the contrary, the mom/dad/kids family is alive and doing quite well for a lot of people. The extended family is still there as well. In addition, people have their neighbors, their schools, and their churches to function like "tribes." If this is supposed to be a justification for "gay marriage," then it falls flat. Yes, children want and need ancestors, and it would be best if they knew who their ancestors are on both sides of their true family, which will always, always, always follow bloodlines - impossible in a world of test tube children, surrogate parenting, and sperm/egg donors. Two dads and two moms will forever be not natural and not the best way to raise children. Even in the case of adoption, children are left wondering who their biological parents are and what they are like. I've known a number of adopted people, and this is very true. While they claim their parents and grandparents, it seems adopted kids have very little connection to the entire family tree. A family with two dads or two moms will forever be a block in the search for ancestors as the descendants who come after their children will get back to them and find a missing branch.
Tell that to the ward of the orphanage or foster care system who but for a gay couple would only have parents WHO DID NOT WANT HIM/HER.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#7 Oct 7, 2012
Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
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Tell that to the ward of the orphanage or foster care system who but for a gay couple would only have parents WHO DID NOT WANT HIM/HER.
If that were all that gay couples did to get kids, it would be different. However, the gay men who hire surrogate mothers and lesbians who get knocked up from a sperm bank are really setting their kids up for issues.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#8 Oct 7, 2012
Chance wrote:
Reaching. Despite all the publicity to the contrary, the mom/dad/kids family is alive and doing quite well for a lot of people. The extended family is still there as well. In addition, people have their neighbors, their schools, and their churches to function like "tribes." If this is supposed to be a justification for "gay marriage," then it falls flat. Yes, children want and need ancestors, and it would be best if they knew who their ancestors are on both sides of their true family, which will always, always, always follow bloodlines - impossible in a world of test tube children, surrogate parenting, and sperm/egg donors. Two dads and two moms will forever be not natural and not the best way to raise children. Even in the case of adoption, children are left wondering who their biological parents are and what they are like. I've known a number of adopted people, and this is very true. While they claim their parents and grandparents, it seems adopted kids have very little connection to the entire family tree. A family with two dads or two moms will forever be a block in the search for ancestors as the descendants who come after their children will get back to them and find a missing branch.
A pedigree never helped the dog in Court if it bites the postman.
david traversa

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#9 Oct 8, 2012
Except in the case of elopements (the rash outcome of opposition) it's many times the result of some kind of calculation, with advantage as its goal.. Of course, there are exceptions to everything..

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