Florida judge approves birth certific...

Florida judge approves birth certificate to include one man and two women

There are 31 comments on the www.proudparenting.com story from Feb 9, 2013, titled Florida judge approves birth certificate to include one man and two women. In it, www.proudparenting.com reports that:

A Miami-Dade Circuit Court judge has decided that a lucky child will have three loving parents (pictured here). Over two years ago, this couple asked their acquaintance to donate his sperm to help them become pregnant. Without any written contract, they became pregnant - and the man decided he wanted to have a role in the parenting. The women disagreed, and a court battle dragged on. Although under Florida law, sperm donors have no legal rights to children...

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Feb 9, 2013
OKAYYYY.

I'm not certain that this helps anything.
Lance

United States

#2 Feb 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
OKAYYYY.
I'm not certain that this helps anything.
It helps further the perversion of the creation of life itself.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Feb 9, 2013
Its an epic breakthrough in several ways
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It is the first court ordered anchor-baby civil marriage for gay couples in the United States
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It is the first court ordered anchor-baby polygamous civil marriage in the United States
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Outstanding!!! ;o))
Franz

Germany

#4 Feb 9, 2013
This makes me sick.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#5 Feb 9, 2013
Franz wrote:
This makes me sick.
Good. If you're stupid enough to keep returning to a place that has that effect on you, then you deserve to be sick. With any luck, your next illness will turn out to be terminal, and the world will be a better place for it.

Since: Mar 09

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#6 Feb 9, 2013
Now I'm CERTAIN that this doesn't help anything.
David Traversa

Catamarca, Argentina

#7 Feb 9, 2013
Great idea ! This child's future is triply insured..

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Feb 9, 2013
It sets a bad precedent. Next sperm donors will be required to support any kids that result from using their sperm.

Very bad precedent.
David Traversa

Catamarca, Argentina

#9 Feb 9, 2013
Lance wrote:
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It helps further the perversion of the creation of life itself.
You mean that thing that crawled out of the sea and evolved into our despicable species..? Please..!! People are eating..

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

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#11 Feb 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
OKAYYYY.
I'm not certain that this helps anything.
I must agree with you. Because I don't believe a birth certificate should be used as a basis for what essentially is either a custody agreement or a parenting/visitation arrangement.

What's going to happen if the female couple breaks up?(I hope they don't, but it's happened before.) Is the woman who did not carry the child going to remain on the birth certificate?

And how, with three parents on the birth certificate, are Emma's descendants going to be able to trace their biological history in terms of genetic risks, etc., especially if there are rifts among the parents in the future? That's already a problem for many adoptees today who are trying to find out what markers they may have inherited, and which could be passed on to their children and grandchildren.

Nope, I'm sorry, I don't believe this is a good idea at all, and I think that neither the three adults nor the judge had the child's best long-term interests at heart in this situation.

Since: Mar 09

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#12 Feb 9, 2013
It's an adoption issue. From the start the couple should have had an agreement with the donor, requiring him to relinquish all parental rights in vitro.

This is a Judge intentionally confusing the issue to fuel slippery slope nightmare scenarios.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#13 Feb 10, 2013
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
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I must agree with you. Because I don't believe a birth certificate should be used as a basis for what essentially is either a custody agreement or a parenting/visitation arrangement.
What's going to happen if the female couple breaks up?(I hope they don't, but it's happened before.) Is the woman who did not carry the child going to remain on the birth certificate?
And how, with three parents on the birth certificate, are Emma's descendants going to be able to trace their biological history in terms of genetic risks, etc., especially if there are rifts among the parents in the future? That's already a problem for many adoptees today who are trying to find out what markers they may have inherited, and which could be passed on to their children and grandchildren.
Nope, I'm sorry, I don't believe this is a good idea at all, and I think that neither the three adults nor the judge had the child's best long-term interests at heart in this situation.
I agree. A birth certificate should list the 2 biological parents; that NEVER changes throughout a person's life, while your legals parents/guardians can easily change.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#14 Feb 10, 2013
And YES, all children born should have genetic testing to verify whom their biological parents are, instead of just presuming it's the husband.

Of course that's going to significantly increase the divorce rate among heteros......

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#15 Feb 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I agree. A birth certificate should list the 2 biological parents; that NEVER changes throughout a person's life, while your legals parents/guardians can easily change.
That can cause problems with the kids later.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#16 Feb 10, 2013
snyper wrote:
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That can cause problems with the kids later.
How?

How does knowing who your biological parents are cause any problems for kids?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#17 Feb 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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How?
How does knowing who your biological parents are cause any problems for kids?
well said.

Since: Mar 09

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#18 Feb 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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How?
How does knowing who your biological parents are cause any problems for kids?
It has more to do with knowing that your parents aren't your parents, and what a kid's mind can do with that data.

I'm not talking theory, here, but what actually happens.

It causes problems.

I know my pedigree going back centuries. Can't say that it's mattered all that much.
SLIF

Scarborough, Canada

#19 Feb 10, 2013
Franz wrote:
This makes me sick.
Then stop stand around smelling other people's crap.You're straight,so don't wast all of your free,unemployed time on all gay forums.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#20 Feb 10, 2013
snyper wrote:
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It has more to do with knowing that your parents aren't your parents, and what a kid's mind can do with that data.
I'm not talking theory, here, but what actually happens.
It causes problems.
I know my pedigree going back centuries. Can't say that it's mattered all that much.
I have two adopted cousins who were told as soon as they were able to understand that they were adopted. It was never a problem. Just as it's not a problem with my daughter who obviously understands her 2 dads aren't both her biological parents.

It's a problem only if you make it one.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

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#21 Feb 10, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I know my pedigree going back centuries. Can't say that it's mattered all that much.
But it might matter if you DIDN'T know your pedigree going back centuries.

I know a beautiful young girl who was adopted as a foundling, and no one knows who her biological parents were. Now that she is on the cusp of puberty, she is in danger of losing her eyesight. Her doctors suspect there might be a rare genetic basis for her condition; if so, it would be very helpful to be able to trace it.

We're racing against the clock here. A birth certificate with her biological parents' names would sure be of help in these dire circumstances.

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