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HI Gov Gives Gay Marriage Bill To Lawmakers

There are 1122 comments on the EDGE story from Aug 29, 2013, titled HI Gov Gives Gay Marriage Bill To Lawmakers. In it, EDGE reports that:

Gov. Neil Abercrombie on Wednesday presented state lawmakers with a draft of legislation that would legalize gay marriage in Hawaii.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#637 Sep 6, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
Homosexuality is an untreated out of control mental disorder that poisons the mind and body of anyone who is afflicted by it.
Seek help NOW!!
the prejudice and bigotry that infests you is a disorder. the help you should seek is a quick end to your useless life...

Joe Balls

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#638 Sep 6, 2013
There us NO-ONE more bigoted than a white American liberal. He hates his own race more than any other.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#639 Sep 6, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
There us NO-ONE more bigoted than a white American liberal. He hates his own race more than any other.
i know many liberals and that is not a true statement for any of them...
District 1 and a 2 an a 3

Los Angeles, CA

#640 Sep 6, 2013
JOE BALLS & AI WILL NEVER grow up and become adults cause they have more fun playing...the fool and enjoying all the attention....they so badly seek.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#641 Sep 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, they are both civil rights struggles and , as that poster pointed out, you prejudicial bigots are using the exact same arguments as they did against inter-racial marriage and even black civil rights themselves...
i know it is hard for you bigots to admit you already lost several battles with those arguments, let alone this current one, but the facts are there and you cannot counter them...
Its not the same argument...African Americans were born black whereas homosexuality is a choice, a poor choice the individual makes because he suffers from an untreated mental disorder.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#642 Sep 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the prejudice and bigotry that infests you is a disorder. the help you should seek is a quick end to your useless life...
When you don't have a valid argument..QUICK!! resort to the bigotry card.

Got anything original to say now??

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#643 Sep 6, 2013
District 1 and a 2 an a 3 wrote:
JOE BALLS & AI WILL NEVER grow up and become adults cause they have more fun playing...the fool and enjoying all the attention....they so badly seek.
Look who's talkin

btw,

STFU

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#644 Sep 6, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not the same argument...African Americans were born black whereas homosexuality is a choice, a poor choice the individual makes because he suffers from an untreated mental disorder.
yet you have clearly shown it is not a choice by your inability to show when you chose which gender you are attracted to...

facts are fun

people do not choose which gender they are attracted to, there are many scientific studies that back this up...

so sad, you lose the very argument you used to try and prove your point...

logic is also fun!

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#645 Sep 6, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
There us NO-ONE more bigoted than a white American liberal. He hates his own race more than any other.
True!

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#646 Sep 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet you have clearly shown it is not a choice by your inability to show when you chose which gender you are attracted to...
facts are fun
people do not choose which gender they are attracted to, there are many scientific studies that back this up...
so sad, you lose the very argument you used to try and prove your point...
logic is also fun!
Nope. Everyone is born hetero....you people choose to be homosexual because you suffer from an untreated mental disorder. The APA should add homosexuality back onto the DSM so you all can get the help that you so desperately need.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#647 Sep 6, 2013
Look at the bright side you may not be able to marry but at least you can file a SSI mental disability claim and start receiving benefits until youre cured.
Burp

Honolulu, HI

#651 Sep 6, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Spot on
Is your name code for 'butt plug'.
Burp

Honolulu, HI

#653 Sep 6, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Is your name code for eating too must sh!t??
Nah after a nice bottle of wine and a large Italian dinner i usually go burp!
Scottsdale AZ PhoenixAZZ

Kahului, HI

#654 Sep 7, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not the same argument...African Americans were born black whereas homosexuality is a choice, a poor choice the individual makes because he suffers from an untreated mental disorder.
This is wrong. Homosexuals are born that way. However, there the comparisons between interracial and gay marriage end.
Homosexuals make much of the hatred they face for being different, yet they promote their lifestyle through flamboyant parades and in-your-face politics that purposely provoke their perceived enemies by seeking to degrade religion primarily, and secondarily, the cultural institutions that they see as oppressive to their sexual proclivities.
Blacks during the Civil Rights era were also militant, but their goal was be accepted into the very establishment they criticized as brothers and sisters. There was never an anarchistic subtext that sought to destroy the establishment or their oppressors.
The LGBT Movement appears to be holding hands with Atheists who see Christianity as an enemy to be destroyed.
It's a subtle but palpable difference, and fundamentally, this is why the LGBT effort is NOT in fact aligned with the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s.
With that said, those who quote Scripture as a justification for disallowing gay marriage are forgetting that the institution of marriage is now more of a secular and social contract than a bond in the eyes of God.
I have no issue with providing avenues for gays to be joined by contract in a legal sense, with all the privileges and obligations that entails, but attacking the institution of marriage in the "Holy Matrimony" sense is actually what is happening. For that, I totally understand why there is so much vitriol against LGBTs in the context of this issue.

“I BUST MAD DOG BLOGGERS”

Since: Sep 13

WHO HAVE NO CONTROL

#655 Sep 7, 2013
Scottsdale AZ PhoenixAZZ wrote:
<quoted text>This is wrong. Homosexuals are born that way. However, there the comparisons between interracial and gay marriage end.
Fact is, people are not born homosexual. It is a developmental behavioral disorder and you saying they are born gay is nonscientific and a lie. If you need to lie and claim that people are born gay, in order to see them as human, then that is part of the problem. The fact is, there are a number of developmental disorders, such as shyness, compulsive obsessive disorders and homosexuality. If people who have made an unconscious choice want to compare themselves to Jews in the Holocaust then that is not is PC, and will get them major wrath. However, by making a comparison with blacks, these people prove racism and that they see blacks as a throw away group.

“I BUST MAD DOG BLOGGERS”

Since: Sep 13

WHO HAVE NO CONTROL

#656 Sep 7, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
Look at the bright side you may not be able to marry but at least you can file a SSI mental disability claim and start receiving benefits until youre cured.
The bright side offers no victim status.
Scottsdale AZ PhoenixAZZ

Kahului, HI

#657 Sep 7, 2013
MAD DOG BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is, people are not born homosexual. It is a developmental behavioral disorder and you saying they are born gay is nonscientific and a lie. If you need to lie and claim that people are born gay, in order to see them as human, then that is part of the problem. The fact is, there are a number of developmental disorders, such as shyness, compulsive obsessive disorders and homosexuality. If people who have made an unconscious choice want to compare themselves to Jews in the Holocaust then that is not is PC, and will get them major wrath. However, by making a comparison with blacks, these people prove racism and that they see blacks as a throw away group.
The jury is still out, but homosexuality appears to be inborn. I guess the rest just get sucked into it.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02...

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#658 Sep 7, 2013
MAD DOG BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is, people are not born homosexual....
Prove it. Conclusively.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#659 Sep 7, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Everyone is born hetero....you people choose to be homosexual because you suffer from an untreated mental disorder.....
Prove it. Conclusively.

Prove that children going through puberty have the magical ability to completely extinguish their "innate" attraction to the opposite gender and replace it entirely with the attraction to the same gender, and do it even when they have never known a single gay person!

I have a son around that age, and it's a stretch for him to remember to lower the lid, or put the caps back on the milk. No signs of such amazing focus and control, at all.

If you had a child that age, you would know your claims were ridiculous.

Now, bigotry is a mental disorder, because it is completely based on irrational thoughts and feelings. You can get help for it, if you choose.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#660 Sep 7, 2013
Scottsdale AZ PhoenixAZZ wrote:
<quoted text>You'll have to elaborate, not just state as if it is fact.
Discrimination is not always unjust, and fair is not usually "the same."
What's to elaborate? Discriminating against gays & lesbians or same-sex couples is no different than discriminating against women or racial minorities.

If you need further elaboration, then you're not going to understand the answer anyways.

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