Museum that discriminates against peo...

Museum that discriminates against people says it is being discriminated against

There are 16 comments on the www.salon.com story from Jun 17, 2013, titled Museum that discriminates against people says it is being discriminated against. In it, www.salon.com reports that:

Earlier this week, the Hands On Children's Museum in Jacksonville, Fla., denied a mother and her two children a family membership rate after an employee noticed that applicant Karen Lee-Duffell had listed her wife's name in the spot designated for "dad."

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Here Kitty Kitty

Alpharetta, GA

#1 Jun 17, 2013
So here we have a 501c3 federal tax exempt organization running on the public dole; practicing admission discrimination for religious reasons
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Which one gets there first? the ACLU; Lambda Legal; the IRS; or The NAACP?
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Here are the corporate sponsors of 'Hands on Children':
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1. Winn Dixie (a supermarket chain)
2. Lowes Home Improvement
3. The Home Depot
4. Olive Garden Restaurants
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We 'all' know what to do now; don't we!
http://handsonchildrensmuseumjax.startlogic.c...
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Feed 'em to the lions

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#2 Jun 17, 2013
When extremists christards are involved, "Hands On Children" probably involves child molestation.

Hell, it's true with "moderate" christians.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#3 Jun 17, 2013
You gotta love the irony.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#4 Jun 17, 2013
It is a children's museum - what does that have to do with "religious beliefs?" Not sure if Jax has an anti-dsicrimination ordinance but this couple should certainly sue, just to point out the fact that GLBT parents are not welcome.

Since: Jan 12

Port Richey, FL

#5 Jun 17, 2013
No the Museum is ran by a bunch of bigots plain & simple and deserves whatever flack there getting and there getting it from a host of straight parents

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#6 Jun 17, 2013
Here Kitty Kitty wrote:
So here we have a 501c3 federal tax exempt organization running on the public dole; practicing admission discrimination for religious reasons
.
Which one gets there first? the ACLU; Lambda Legal; the IRS; or The NAACP?
.
Here are the corporate sponsors of 'Hands on Children':
.
1. Winn Dixie (a supermarket chain)
2. Lowes Home Improvement
3. The Home Depot
4. Olive Garden Restaurants
.
We 'all' know what to do now; don't we!
http://handsonchildrensmuseumjax.startlogic.c...
.
Feed 'em to the lions
As soon as I get off here I will be zipping off emails to Lowes, Home Depot, and Olive Garden (parent also owns Red Lobster). I don't have a Winn Dixie within states of me, so I'll fore go them. Lowes and Home Depot have both issued me credit cards, and I use them a lot. Or at least I did. Menard's is now in town, so they are an option for me. Not to mention the independent hardware stores around here.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#7 Jun 17, 2013
Why do the discriminators always try to label the victims as the bigots and discriminators? Many say the museum is within their legal rights, etc. and that may be the case but just because it is perfectly legal to discriminate and even have laws to back up that right to discriminate doesn't make it any less discrimination. It was perfectly legal and even the law to discriminate against black people decades ago. Anti-discrimination laws are then created to prevent and put an end to such discrimination.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#8 Jun 17, 2013
In eyes of the law something may not be discrimination but that does not mean it is not discrimination and that laws do not need to be created and/or changed.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#11 Jun 17, 2013
Bruce wrote:
If I owned the museum I would post a sign stating NO queers allowed!!!
If I were you I would pick one name and stick with it, little liar.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#12 Jun 17, 2013
The Shadow wrote:
<quoted text>
When extremists Queers are involved, "Hands On Children" probably involves child molestation of little boys.
Did you READ the article, did you even read the headline?

This is about a business NOT allowing gays into it, not even close to what you are implying.

If you wanted to make a "gotcha" point, make it a little closer to reality of the situation.

“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#13 Jun 17, 2013
They do allow gays families in, but make them pay extra.

Now, had they limited their comments to the laws of Florida, that would have been one thing, but then they had to go and throw in that bit about "consistent with our religious beliefs," which implies that even if the laws of Florida DID recognize marriage equality, this museum would STILL not have recognized gay families.

They deserve everything they get!

I work for Home Depot and they definitely do not endorse discrimination, so I am pretty sure they will withdraw their sponsorship.(I cannot speak for Lowes or Winn-Dixie).

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#14 Jun 18, 2013
equalityboy81 wrote:
Why do the discriminators always try to label the victims as the bigots and discriminators?
Because they used to get away with the lies. Bigots used to get away with saying the same things about jews and black men that they're trying to say about LGBTQ people.

It worked for a while, but now it doesn't, and they're whining about it.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#15 Jun 18, 2013
My friend claimed to be fired a few years ago for being gay from Lowes in Yulee, Nassau County, Florida under a different reason. Ironically the allegations were that he was sexually harassing toward a (bigoted and homophobic) much older woman (who always gave him a hard time). He made a non-sexual remark and pointed toward at name tag. They claimed that he tried to touch her on the breast(s). This is what he claimed they alleged. I never witnessed it but I believe him. You can tell the bigots get pretty desperate when they start using tactics against gay men that are usually used against straight men and accusing a gay man of sexually harassing a woman.

I used to work for Winn-Dixie in Yulee and Fernandina Beach, Florida in the late 90s and they were VERY HOMOPHOBIC, especially the one in rural Yulee, FL. WD and Lowe's I hear are not the gay friendliest. Not sure how Winn-Dixie is now but know that in the 20th century they didn't appear friendly toward LGBT or handicapped people or kids and students. Publix was and is much, much better to work for. I prefer Home Depot over Lowes any day.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#16 Jun 18, 2013
equalityboy81 wrote:
My friend claimed to be fired a few years ago for being gay from Lowes in Yulee, Nassau County, Florida under a different reason. Ironically the allegations were that he was sexually harassing toward a (bigoted and homophobic) much older woman (who always gave him a hard time). He made a non-sexual remark and pointed toward at name tag. They claimed that he tried to touch her on the breast(s). This is what he claimed they alleged. I never witnessed it but I believe him. You can tell the bigots get pretty desperate when they start using tactics against gay men that are usually used against straight men and accusing a gay man of sexually harassing a woman.
I used to work for Winn-Dixie in Yulee and Fernandina Beach, Florida in the late 90s and they were VERY HOMOPHOBIC, especially the one in rural Yulee, FL. WD and Lowe's I hear are not the gay friendliest. Not sure how Winn-Dixie is now but know that in the 20th century they didn't appear friendly toward LGBT or handicapped people or kids and students. Publix was and is much, much better to work for. I prefer Home Depot over Lowes any day.
It would be nice if all American retailers would treat their employees a little better. It might also help the public get better customer service, as a non-disgruntled employee is likely to be in a better mood with the public. It puzzles me why corporations can't figure this out as a marketing tactic.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#17 Jun 19, 2013
I don't know why corporations never lower prices on products that people only get on sale or buy less of because it is so expensive. If they lowered prices on certain things people would buy much more which would lead to them making more money. Maybe the same thing could apply to gasoline, not sure on that though.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#18 Jun 20, 2013
equalityboy81 wrote:
I don't know why corporations never lower prices on products that people only get on sale or buy less of because it is so expensive. If they lowered prices on certain things people would buy much more which would lead to them making more money. Maybe the same thing could apply to gasoline, not sure on that though.
This is getting way off topic, but it depends somewhat on the type of business. Supermarkets, for example, have a very small margin of profit (most of the markup in food is due to middlemen and rent) and so when they reduce prices it is usually because they are selling things at a loss to get folks into the store to buy other stuff. On the other hand, department stores have high margins and mark things way up (especially clothing) so they can put in on sale later. Amazon and internet vendors can sell cheaply as they only need a couple of warehouses and no retail locations; that is why bookstores and electronics stores are doing lousy - people go in to browse and then buy online. Up here in Canada, prices supposedly average 20% more than in the US overall but I think it is really about 33% on average with some items selling for 250% more than in the US (one of the reasons folks think Canadians are tight is actually due to the fact that we have significantly less disposable cash, as this difference applies to food and other necessities). But retailers argue that much of that differential comes from higher tariff and greater distribution costs (large, sparsely populated country) when in fact a good deal is because they can get away with it due to less competition.

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