Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes

[BraveCon]

Quest wrote:

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We don't get a choice in our sexual orientation, but We DO have a choice in how we live.
And for someof us (not all of us), that's the married life. We fall in love and form families in the same ways and for the same reasons that all other folks do.
Why would you think that ONLY gay people should never choose this path, simply because of a harmless natural trait?
If that is a healthy and positive choice for a heterosexual, why is it a bad choice for a gay person?
Really, if you want to stop every gay person from valuing and seeking marriage and family life, then you are going to have to stop teaching ALL children to value it.
Because many of those kids are listening to you.
And some of them are gay.

Those who truly want a family and/or a family life should want to procreate. It seems to me that you homosexual people want to play 'pretend family' and doing so will make you feel better about yourself, about your homosexual lifestyle, and playing 'family' will give you some respectability among normal people.

I think you homosexual people would be better off just being swingers and living together if you want to. Marriage is not a guarantee of happiness, look at all the divorces in life.

Moreover, I think many of you homosexuals believe that marriage will fill that void in you that was created when you choose not to procreate.

[Rainbow Kid]

BraveCon wrote:

The world got by just fine without gay marriage for thousands of years

No
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We taught you straighties how to marry:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026739...

[Rainbow Kid]

BraveCon wrote:

All humans are born with sexual organs. It was Nature's intent that all animals, including humans, procreate. I believe going against Nature's intent is abnormal and doing so is a choice, it is not a built-in or natural trait that you are claiming.

Obviously you are an inexperienced virgin
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You are correct that gay guys are born with a male sex organ; but their sex organ does not erect for women
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Why not?
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Because gay guys are born with the same sexual orientation your 'mother' was born with; attracted to men
http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/
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So nature's intent is not what you thought it was
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Now you know ;o))

[Brad]

Tony C wrote:

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Stupidity will be confronted and remedied. Get used to it.
Telling someone their marriage should not be legally recognized has never been "constructive dialogue." It is insulting to a huge degree. When you start off with that, good luck with constructive dialogue. Yet you folks get far more gracious dialogue than you deserve in return for your insults.

At least your comments go full circle?
You start by calling me stupid and end with calling me insulting.

[Brad]

Quest wrote:

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I don't need your approval, I need equal protection under the law for my spouse and my children.
Wouldn't YOU fight for that, if it were to be taken from you?
If protecting ones family is being "insecure", then every single other married person in this country is equally insecure.
And, I also believe that sending a message to gay youth that such as path is open to them is a HEALTHY message, and will help them make better choices.
Have you tried to impart such a message to your own kids?

I know what you're trying to say,and I'm not trying to be cold,I just don't think anything has been taken away from you.
Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.
In one breath you use the law to qualify your position and in the next you dam it when it doesn't work to your specific needs.

[nhjeff]

Truthteller wrote:

<quoted text>You really don't get it. Most people do not consider sodomy to be the basis of family.?

Nobody considers sodomy to be the basis of family. And yet, every couple I know--gay or straight or bi--finds it enjoyable. So what exactly is your point, Pekin Troll?

[nhjeff]

Brad wrote:

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Yeah right.
Is that why you can't keep your private lives private?

We keep our private lives just as private as any straight couple, if not more. You will note that the only ones who bring private acts into the discussion all claim to be heterosexual.

[Brad]

nhjeff wrote:

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We keep our private lives just as private as any straight couple, if not more. You will note that the only ones who bring private acts into the discussion all claim to be heterosexual.

LOL

If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?

[Rainbow Kid]

Brad wrote:

Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.

True; but we do not share the same religious superstitions
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So religions that interfere with our equal rights should be sent to the dustbin of history to keep their kinfolks company
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...

[Gays Run the World]

Brad wrote:

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LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?

Pride parades are the Gay Agenda's fundraising tool
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As an example; this pride parade generated a million dollars for 11 needy public charities; a half-million for the host city's treasury; and a half-million for the Gay Agenda
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/file...
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The heteros and homophobes don't raise funds for the Gay Agenda
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So we have to do it

[Jane Dodo]

BraveCon wrote:

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All humans are born with sexual organs. It was Nature's intent that all animals, including humans, procreate. I believe going against Nature's intent is abnormal and doing so is a choice, it is not a built-in or natural trait that you are claiming.
Every gay marriage is a message to young people that making the choice not to procreate is an okay thing to do. I believe it is not and bad choices should not be given any legitimacy.
And by paying taxes, you are doing your civic duty, something you should do despite what the money is used for.

Nature's intent? Is that suppose to mean something? How do you know what nature intends?

[Jane Dodo]

Brad wrote:

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LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?

helloooooooooooo.... have you been missing out the parade all these years?

[nhjeff]

Brad wrote:

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LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?

Every day is straight pride day. If you watch a football half-time show, you'll see female sexuality on display. Last time I checked, Mardi Gras was all about heterosexual pride. If you watch a commercial for jeans or perfume, you will see more blatant heterosexuality than anyone needs.

That said, gay pride parades are hardly the bawdy celebrations of Porno Pete's wet dreams. Most are down right boring. Only a few cities have communities with sufficient size and wealth to support floats with dancers, drag performances, and disco bands. Those, of course, are attended by vast numbers of heterosexuals who seem to enjoy the show as much as we do.

Don't want to partake in blatant heterosexuality? Don't go to Mardi Gras or Carnival. Don't want to partake in flagrant homosexuality? Don't go to Sydney or San Francisco on Pride Day.

Some things in life are truly simple. Why do some people insist on making them so complicated?

[Tony C]

BraveCon wrote:

Those who truly want a family and/or a family life should want to procreate.

It seems to me that you homosexual people want to play 'pretend family' and doing so will make you feel better about yourself, about your homosexual lifestyle, and playing 'family' will give you some respectability among normal people.
I think you homosexual people would be better off just being swingers and living together if you want to. Marriage is not a guarantee of happiness, look at all the divorces in life.
Moreover, I think many of you homosexuals believe that marriage will fill that void in you that was created when you choose not to procreate.

That's crap. It's only your opinion and you should understand why that is irrelevant to the law.

"Pretending" would be marrying someone of the opposite sex. There is nothing pretend about my marriage. Didn't I tell you this already, or was it some other fool?

We don't care what you think we homosexuals should do. You don't matter.

You suggest things that many would consider immoral such as swinging and shacking up. What kind of person does that make you?

There is no "void" in me without children. And many gay people do have children, so you're spewing nonsense.

Let's talk about "normal." "Normal" straight people are not obsessed with this like you are. "Normal" straight people understand and are not theatened by gay marriages. "Normal" people do not interfere in other peoples' marriages. "Normal" people are not prejudiced or bigoted.

There is something wrong with you.

[Tony C]

Brad wrote:

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At least your comments go full circle?
You start by calling me stupid and end with calling me insulting.

I didn't call you stupid. When I do, it looks like this: Stupid.

You commented on another poster's comments, which were stupid, and told that poster to prepare for his come-uppance. My response to that was that stupidity will be confronted.

Yes, your comments from beginning to end have been insulting. You are bad-mouthing our families. If you did that to my face, you'd be flat on the ground.

[Tony C]

Brad wrote:

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I know what you're trying to say,and I'm not trying to be cold,I just don't think anything has been taken away from you.
Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.
In one breath you use the law to qualify your position and in the next you dam it when it doesn't work to your specific needs.

Stupid.(Now I'm calling you stupid.)

[Tony C]

Brad wrote:

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LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?

Stupid.

You're really not good at thinking things through.

[BraveCon]

Tony C wrote:

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That's crap. It's only your opinion and you should understand why that is irrelevant to the law.
"Pretending" would be marrying someone of the opposite sex. There is nothing pretend about my marriage. Didn't I tell you this already, or was it some other fool?
We don't care what you think we homosexuals should do. You don't matter.
You suggest things that many would consider immoral such as swinging and shacking up. What kind of person does that make you?
There is no "void" in me without children. And many gay people do have children, so you're spewing nonsense.
Let's talk about "normal." "Normal" straight people are not obsessed with this like you are. "Normal" straight people understand and are not theatened by gay marriages. "Normal" people do not interfere in other peoples' marriages. "Normal" people are not prejudiced or bigoted.
There is something wrong with you.

Let me ask you something.

If two gay men walk down the street to a local park and start kissing in front of a group of kids, do you think any of the kids will think what the two men are doing is weird, unusual, or abnormal?

If the any of the kids do think that this behavior is weird/ususual/abnormal, does this automatically make the kids a bunch of bigots?

[Deja vu all over Again]

BraveCon wrote:

Let me ask you something.
If two gay men walk down the street to a local park and start kissing in front of a group of kids, do you think any of the kids will think what the two men are doing is weird, unusual, or abnormal?

No

BraveCon wrote:

If the any of the kids do think that this behavior is weird/ususual/abnormal, does this automatically make the kids a bunch of bigots?

It means the kids learned hate discrimination from their bigoted parents

[Rainbow Kid]

Truthteller wrote:

<quoted text>Your horrible hate based radical homosexual movement does a great job of portraying homosexuality as lewd and indecent, especially with the homosexual arrogance parades.

Have we held a Pride Parade in Pekin yet?