Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes

Jan 7, 2013 Full story: NBC Chicago 17,562

Leaders of several Chicago-area African American churches on Monday urged state lawmakers to vote against pending legislation that would allow same-sex marriage in Illinois.

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Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1786 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
The world got by just fine without gay marriage for thousands of years
No
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We taught you straighties how to marry:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026739...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1787 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
All humans are born with sexual organs. It was Nature's intent that all animals, including humans, procreate. I believe going against Nature's intent is abnormal and doing so is a choice, it is not a built-in or natural trait that you are claiming.
Obviously you are an inexperienced virgin
.
You are correct that gay guys are born with a male sex organ; but their sex organ does not erect for women
.
Why not?
.
Because gay guys are born with the same sexual orientation your 'mother' was born with; attracted to men
http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/
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So nature's intent is not what you thought it was
.
Now you know ;o))
Brad

Manchester, CT

#1788 Jan 22, 2013
Tony C wrote:
<quoted text>
Stupidity will be confronted and remedied. Get used to it.
Telling someone their marriage should not be legally recognized has never been "constructive dialogue." It is insulting to a huge degree. When you start off with that, good luck with constructive dialogue. Yet you folks get far more gracious dialogue than you deserve in return for your insults.
At least your comments go full circle?
You start by calling me stupid and end with calling me insulting.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#1789 Jan 22, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need your approval, I need equal protection under the law for my spouse and my children.
Wouldn't YOU fight for that, if it were to be taken from you?
If protecting ones family is being "insecure", then every single other married person in this country is equally insecure.
And, I also believe that sending a message to gay youth that such as path is open to them is a HEALTHY message, and will help them make better choices.
Have you tried to impart such a message to your own kids?
I know what you're trying to say,and I'm not trying to be cold,I just don't think anything has been taken away from you.
Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.
In one breath you use the law to qualify your position and in the next you dam it when it doesn't work to your specific needs.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1790 Jan 22, 2013
Truthteller wrote:
<quoted text>You really don't get it. Most people do not consider sodomy to be the basis of family.?
Nobody considers sodomy to be the basis of family. And yet, every couple I know--gay or straight or bi--finds it enjoyable. So what exactly is your point, Pekin Troll?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1791 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah right.
Is that why you can't keep your private lives private?
We keep our private lives just as private as any straight couple, if not more. You will note that the only ones who bring private acts into the discussion all claim to be heterosexual.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#1792 Jan 22, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
We keep our private lives just as private as any straight couple, if not more. You will note that the only ones who bring private acts into the discussion all claim to be heterosexual.
LOL

If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1793 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.
True; but we do not share the same religious superstitions
.
So religions that interfere with our equal rights should be sent to the dustbin of history to keep their kinfolks company
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...
Gays Run the World

Alpharetta, GA

#1794 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?
Pride parades are the Gay Agenda's fundraising tool
.
As an example; this pride parade generated a million dollars for 11 needy public charities; a half-million for the host city's treasury; and a half-million for the Gay Agenda
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/file...
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The heteros and homophobes don't raise funds for the Gay Agenda
.
So we have to do it
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#1795 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
All humans are born with sexual organs. It was Nature's intent that all animals, including humans, procreate. I believe going against Nature's intent is abnormal and doing so is a choice, it is not a built-in or natural trait that you are claiming.
Every gay marriage is a message to young people that making the choice not to procreate is an okay thing to do. I believe it is not and bad choices should not be given any legitimacy.
And by paying taxes, you are doing your civic duty, something you should do despite what the money is used for.
Nature's intent? Is that suppose to mean something? How do you know what nature intends?
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#1796 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?
helloooooooooooo.... have you been missing out the parade all these years?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1797 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?
Every day is straight pride day. If you watch a football half-time show, you'll see female sexuality on display. Last time I checked, Mardi Gras was all about heterosexual pride. If you watch a commercial for jeans or perfume, you will see more blatant heterosexuality than anyone needs.

That said, gay pride parades are hardly the bawdy celebrations of Porno Pete's wet dreams. Most are down right boring. Only a few cities have communities with sufficient size and wealth to support floats with dancers, drag performances, and disco bands. Those, of course, are attended by vast numbers of heterosexuals who seem to enjoy the show as much as we do.

Don't want to partake in blatant heterosexuality? Don't go to Mardi Gras or Carnival. Don't want to partake in flagrant homosexuality? Don't go to Sydney or San Francisco on Pride Day.

Some things in life are truly simple. Why do some people insist on making them so complicated?

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#1798 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
Those who truly want a family and/or a family life should want to procreate.

It seems to me that you homosexual people want to play 'pretend family' and doing so will make you feel better about yourself, about your homosexual lifestyle, and playing 'family' will give you some respectability among normal people.
I think you homosexual people would be better off just being swingers and living together if you want to. Marriage is not a guarantee of happiness, look at all the divorces in life.
Moreover, I think many of you homosexuals believe that marriage will fill that void in you that was created when you choose not to procreate.
That's crap. It's only your opinion and you should understand why that is irrelevant to the law.

"Pretending" would be marrying someone of the opposite sex. There is nothing pretend about my marriage. Didn't I tell you this already, or was it some other fool?

We don't care what you think we homosexuals should do. You don't matter.

You suggest things that many would consider immoral such as swinging and shacking up. What kind of person does that make you?

There is no "void" in me without children. And many gay people do have children, so you're spewing nonsense.

Let's talk about "normal." "Normal" straight people are not obsessed with this like you are. "Normal" straight people understand and are not theatened by gay marriages. "Normal" people do not interfere in other peoples' marriages. "Normal" people are not prejudiced or bigoted.

There is something wrong with you.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#1799 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
At least your comments go full circle?
You start by calling me stupid and end with calling me insulting.
I didn't call you stupid. When I do, it looks like this: Stupid.

You commented on another poster's comments, which were stupid, and told that poster to prepare for his come-uppance. My response to that was that stupidity will be confronted.

Yes, your comments from beginning to end have been insulting. You are bad-mouthing our families. If you did that to my face, you'd be flat on the ground.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#1800 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what you're trying to say,and I'm not trying to be cold,I just don't think anything has been taken away from you.
Under the law,as an individual,we share the same rights.
In one breath you use the law to qualify your position and in the next you dam it when it doesn't work to your specific needs.
Stupid.(Now I'm calling you stupid.)

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#1801 Jan 22, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
If not more private?
Guess thats why heteros feel the need to have a parade to celebrate opposite sex copulation?
Stupid.

You're really not good at thinking things through.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#1802 Jan 22, 2013
Tony C wrote:
<quoted text>
That's crap. It's only your opinion and you should understand why that is irrelevant to the law.
"Pretending" would be marrying someone of the opposite sex. There is nothing pretend about my marriage. Didn't I tell you this already, or was it some other fool?
We don't care what you think we homosexuals should do. You don't matter.
You suggest things that many would consider immoral such as swinging and shacking up. What kind of person does that make you?
There is no "void" in me without children. And many gay people do have children, so you're spewing nonsense.
Let's talk about "normal." "Normal" straight people are not obsessed with this like you are. "Normal" straight people understand and are not theatened by gay marriages. "Normal" people do not interfere in other peoples' marriages. "Normal" people are not prejudiced or bigoted.
There is something wrong with you.
Let me ask you something.

If two gay men walk down the street to a local park and start kissing in front of a group of kids, do you think any of the kids will think what the two men are doing is weird, unusual, or abnormal?

If the any of the kids do think that this behavior is weird/ususual/abnormal, does this automatically make the kids a bunch of bigots?
Deja vu all over Again

Alpharetta, GA

#1804 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
Let me ask you something.
If two gay men walk down the street to a local park and start kissing in front of a group of kids, do you think any of the kids will think what the two men are doing is weird, unusual, or abnormal?
No
BraveCon wrote:
If the any of the kids do think that this behavior is weird/ususual/abnormal, does this automatically make the kids a bunch of bigots?
It means the kids learned hate discrimination from their bigoted parents
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1805 Jan 22, 2013
Truthteller wrote:
<quoted text>Your horrible hate based radical homosexual movement does a great job of portraying homosexuality as lewd and indecent, especially with the homosexual arrogance parades.
Have we held a Pride Parade in Pekin yet?

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#1806 Jan 22, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me ask you something.
If two gay men walk down the street to a local park and start kissing in front of a group of kids, do you think any of the kids will think what the two men are doing is weird, unusual, or abnormal?
If the any of the kids do think that this behavior is weird/ususual/abnormal, does this automatically make the kids a bunch of bigots?
Ah, the old terrifying "making out in the park" example (because that happens all the time.)

The kids will think whatever they have been taught to think. No, they are not responsible for what their parents taught them - until they grow up and are able to think for themselves.

If kids who have never seen kissing at all before see anybody kissing (man/woman or any other combo) they are naturally curious, may find it funny or "icky" and that is appropriate for their age.

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