Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes

Jan 7, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NBC Chicago

Leaders of several Chicago-area African American churches on Monday urged state lawmakers to vote against pending legislation that would allow same-sex marriage in Illinois.

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Frankie Rizzo

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EdmondWA wrote:
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This never HAD to be a competition, with winners and losers at all. We never invited anyone into a friendly game of "block my pursuit of my rights". Other people (mostly religious) FORCED us into that game, and we've earned a little schaudenfreude now that it didn't go the way they expected.
Same for polygamists.
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EdmondWA wrote:
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This never HAD to be a competition, with winners and losers at all. We never invited anyone into a friendly game of "block my pursuit of my rights". Other people (mostly religious) FORCED us into that game, and we've earned a little schaudenfreude now that it didn't go the way they expected.
Talk to lides. He's doing the same stuff against marriage equality for people he doesn't like.

Don't hog all the vicitmhood. There's plenty to go around.
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lides wrote:
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Frankie, it isn't the same argument. Homosexuals seek equal protection for two individuals to marry, polygamists seek greater protection of the law for three or more.
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There was a topix game for a while. I really don't care about them, it was simply something that registered users got through use of the site. Of course, you would have to be brave enough to actually register instead of hiding behind an unregistered avatar and posting under multiple names.
"Greater" protection. Too funny. How can someone get "greater" protection? There is no "greater" protection to give them than equal protection and everybody gets that already dummy.

You a a greater idiot than you appear to be.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
You are arguing against good peoples rights and doing it poorly.
There is no right to polygamy, Blankie.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Learn to recognize gender. Same argument. Own it.
Bottom line. I support marriage equality and you do not.
This ain't the marriage equality forum, retardo.
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Of course, you would have to be brave enough to actually register instead of hiding behind an unregistered avatar and posting under multiple names.
I have a crooked biased mod on me. If I register he deletes it. I can prove this, he has admitted it, bragged about it. If he were brave enough to deal with me intellectually instead of with cowardice and dishonesty, I still would be registered.
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lides wrote:
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Frankie, polygamy doesn't seek equal protection of the law, and is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Are you an idiot? Because when you return to this irrelevant drivel, it certainly looks like you are.
Oh the irony.
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I have a crooked biased mod on me. If I register he deletes it. I can prove this, he has admitted it, bragged about it. If he were brave enough to deal with me intellectually instead of with cowardice and dishonesty, I still would be registered.
It couldn't possibly be YOUR fault, could it?
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Xavier Breath wrote:
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This ain't the marriage equality forum, retardo.
It ain't the angry ad hominem forum either but that doesn't stop you.
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Xavier Breath wrote:
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There is no right to polygamy, Blankie.
Polygamy is a perfectly appropriate topic in any discussion of marriage X-Box. Calm down and get on topic?

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"Greater" protection. Too funny. How can someone get "greater" protection? There is no "greater" protection to give them than equal protection and everybody gets that already dummy.
You a a greater idiot than you appear to be.
By including more than two people in one marriage. It isn't difficult to understand, Frankie. That you seemingly don't says more about you than anything else.

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I have a crooked biased mod on me. If I register he deletes it. I can prove this, he has admitted it, bragged about it. If he were brave enough to deal with me intellectually instead of with cowardice and dishonesty, I still would be registered.
Have you ever considered registering and not being a troll?
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Polygamy is a perfectly appropriate topic in any discussion of marriage X-Box. Calm down and get on topic?
Perfectly appropriate red herring.

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Wondering wrote:
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Why is the state suing?
Why do you feel it's other people's responsibility to do your research?
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The ACLU is losing so much credibility.
According to you. No one cares about what you find credible, you're a proven liar.
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They are trying to defend Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon terrorist.
So? Is he not entitled to defense? Last I knew, defense was a right guaranteed by the Constitution. Oh, that's right, you fundies don't like Constitutional rights when they disagree with your prejudices.

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Same for polygamists.
I think I've made my position on polygamy clear. You're a polygamist. I'm a polygamist. We just show some restraint, and settle on one mate. Some people don't like that idea. It doesn't mean anyone has been "blocking their rights". How long did polygamists have to fight to serve openly in the military?

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UCLA prof of law. Says the slippery slope is real but insignificant. I agree. Instead of telling them the slippery slope is not real you should agree that it is real but it doesn't matter.
But silly Frankie. I'm the bad guy. Don't listen to me. You keep insisting it doesn't exist, you know best! But remember. People don't buy bullsh!t. Even the dummies. And bullsh!t is not the way to make your case.
Things have changed since 2008. His argument is a fallacy. He should resign and become a janitor.
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I think I've made my position on polygamy clear. You're a polygamist. I'm a polygamist. We just show some restraint, and settle on one mate. Some people don't like that idea. It doesn't mean anyone has been "blocking their rights". How long did polygamists have to fight to serve openly in the military?
Still fighting. If the military finds out they are polygamists they will be discharged with prejudice and sentenced to prison. So I don't know they answer to your question but I do know that homosexuals can openly serve in the military but polygamists cannot.
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Things have changed since 2008. His argument is a fallacy. He should resign and become a janitor.
He is in full support of SSM. And was in 2008 too. His paper was an attempt to settle the slippery slope argument and he did an excellent job in that paper.

If you would just be reasonable you'd tell them yes, the slippery slope is real but here's why it doesn't matter. But you choose to spin it. That makes enemies, not supporters.
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He already IS something, that you want to pretend he isn't, based solely on physical indicators that you have established as a benchmark of something that they are not a benchmark for.
Gender is established by the brain moron, not the genitals. Perhaps if you invested in some research and scientific information culled post 1950 you would know this.
But please, don't let facts get in the way of your continued delight in publically demonstrating how ridiculously uneducated you are on the matters being discussed.
Morons like you that peacock their ignorance are a HOOT!
"Gender is established by the brain moron, not the genitals. Perhaps if you invested in some research and scientific information culled post 1950 you would know this."
wow, that is clueless.
dna, chromosomes and physical indicators/attributes have nothing to do with it.
do you know how stupid you sound?
the brain can be washed. physical "indicators can be changed. dna and Chromosomes as of yet can't be.

how about they accept themselves for who they are and how they are made and stop trying to say they are something they are not?
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Xavier Breath wrote:
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Perfectly appropriate red herring.
Polygamy is good people's choice of marriage. It is not a fish.

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