Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes

There are 20 comments on the NBC Chicago story from Jan 7, 2013, titled Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes. In it, NBC Chicago reports that:

Leaders of several Chicago-area African American churches on Monday urged state lawmakers to vote against pending legislation that would allow same-sex marriage in Illinois.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9093 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The Feds simply recognize what each individual state defines as marriage.
not really, the entire federal gov't, in all its offices and departments across all 50 states recognizes SSM.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9094 Sep 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There's going to be backlash because same sex marriage supporters keep suing Christians.
just the ones that break the law.

More real world observations and facts: it seems this 'backlash' turns out to be most of the nation getting on board with SSM movement and the movement to recognize that homosexuality is a normal natural part of our species and society....

wow! some backlash that was!

Since: Mar 07

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#9095 Sep 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There's going to be backlash because same sex marriage supporters keep suing Christians.
As long as a business owner unlawfully discriminates against minorities, they are subject to lawsuits - and thank goodness for that.

Can you imagine if every Christian, Jew, or black person had to go into a dozen stores, only to be turned away and embarrassed, just to find the one store that would serve them?

Fortunately, most Christians don't do that sort of thing, and don't support it.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9096 Sep 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>not really, the entire federal gov't, in all its offices and departments across all 50 states recognizes SSM.
Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government? C'mon now Woody, I know you know this one.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9097 Sep 2, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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No, the federal government is now recognizing licensed same sex marriages for a host of legal benefits and privileges regardless of whether the state where the same sex couple actually lives legally recognizes it. Do keep up with current events, little Petey, before you're left behind as lost.
Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9098 Sep 2, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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I'm not confused at all, small Peter. The legal accomplishment of marriage is the establishment of kinship between previously unrelated parties. That is the one constant throughout history, regardless of whatever else has changed.
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Neither I nor anyone else is required to marry in accordance with your prejudices.
The "legal establishment of kinship" still required a foundation to it, that is the male female union. You can marry however way you want, but remember, not everyone wishes to marry according to your prejudices as well. Thanks to legal SSM, it's quite possible, that others can marry according to how they see fit, not according to anyone's "prejudice".

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9099 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government? C'mon now Woody, I know you know this one.
who forces the states to change their marriage laws when they discriminate against people?

we are one more SCOTUS case away from legal SSM being the law of the land, SCOTUS knew this full well when they made their recent DOMA ruling.
Huh

Owatonna, MN

#9100 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?
Should it be ok or legal for a state to take a vote and make slavery legal again???? Would it be ok and legal for a state to make murder legal?????

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9101 Sep 2, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
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But the feds will now recognize any legally married same-sex couple regardless of the state where they reside. Same-sex couple from Texas goes to Massachusetts, gets legally married, returns to Texas... the feds will still recognize the couple as married regardless of Texas law. Legally married same-sex couples popping up all over the country.
Who issues the marriage license, the state or the federal government?

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#9102 Sep 2, 2013
Huh wrote:
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Should it be ok or legal for a state to take a vote and make slavery legal again???? Would it be ok and legal for a state to make murder legal?????
Sorry wrong answer. Try again. Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9103 Sep 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>who forces the states to change their marriage laws when they discriminate against people?
we are one more SCOTUS case away from legal SSM being the law of the land, SCOTUS knew this full well when they made their recent DOMA ruling.
Are those state constitutional amendments still in place? Or did the Supreme Court declare invalidate them?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9104 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Who issues the marriage license, the state or the federal government?
who rules whether the way they do that is constitutional?
Huh

Owatonna, MN

#9105 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Sorry wrong answer. Try again. Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?
The state does. But they cant deny federal or constitutional law....RIGHT??????

Now tell me can a state make murder legal?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9106 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Are those state constitutional amendments still in place? Or did the Supreme Court declare invalidate them?
not yet, that case has not been brought before them since their last ruling on SSM.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9107 Sep 2, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Say who? YOU? LOL. I think not. Marriage has changed throughout history. This is merely the latest and in accordance with constitutional principles of equal protection of the laws.
And the one constant throughout time and place, male female. Eliminate one, and you eliminate marriage, the formula is no longer the same.
Seriously, little Petey, you need to take you head out of ass once in a while; the lack of oxygen is painfully obvious by you ad nauseam posting of this irrelevant legal opinion of a state appeals court from a state that now recognizes same sex marriage, thus rendering it moot.
Is it though. The statement contained within it is still factual. The fundamental right to marriage exists because of the nature of the male female relationship. Not once has the Supreme Court said, SSM is a fundamental right.
Indeed, equal protection of the law isn't complicated, except apparently for uneducable morons like you.
Of crybabies like you. "Wah....wah....I know I already have equal protection just like any other man or woman...but I don't like that....I want to be treated differently...even though I cry and stomp my feet for 'equal' protection"!
The basis for the fundamental right of marriage in this country is SCOTUS ruling it as such in accordance with the ninth amendment. Their ruling included no limitations or disclaimers regarding the sex of the participants of marriage. So none exist from a federal constitutional standpoint. The federal government now legally recognizes same sex marriages after the US v. Windsor ruling; it's only a matter of time before all states do as well.
Marriage exists because of the nature of the male female relationship. In case you hadn't noticed there are two sexes, and you are the product of both, much to your chagrin.
Hardly, little Petey. Allowing gays to marry could never cause as much damage to our social institutions as stupid, bigoted heterosexuals like you have done though the centuries.
I see your ignorance knows no bounds. First, "gays" have always been able to marry, just like any other man or woman. Second, "gay" as a sexual reference, used to refer to various illicit, and/or hedonistic opposite sex sexual practices. A "gay man" was a womanizer! A "gay woman" a prostitute. Third, even the word "heterosexual" is a recent invention, slightly older than "gay". Perhaps you should brush up on your history a bit.
Yeah. Just like civil rights for blacks and women proved to be passing phases too. Make sure you're buried in an unmarked grave so people won't know they should spit, piss and dance on it as they pass by in celebration of another dead bigot.
Again, your ignorance of history is illuminating. Civil rights for blacks started in this country at about the same time as the birth of the republic, as the legitimacy of slavery was questioned, for women, a little bit later. The concept of basing civil right based on one's sexual desires, is a recent invention. Time will tell whether or not the movement will sustain itself over the long haul, or die out for lack of a solid foundation.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9108 Sep 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>who rules whether the way they do that is constitutional?
Answer the question, please. Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9109 Sep 2, 2013
Huh wrote:
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The state does. But they cant deny federal or constitutional law....RIGHT??????
Now tell me can a state make murder legal?
Thank you Huh. Do you see that Woody? Huh answered it correctly. True they cannot deny federal or constitutional law. However, the state still determines what constitutes a marriage within their state. The Feds have not taken that power away from them as of yet.

As to your question....I don't know.....what's your point?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#9110 Sep 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>not yet, that case has not been brought before them since their last ruling on SSM.
Oh so they, SCOTUS, didn't force every single state to recognize to recognize SMS, is that correct?

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#9111 Sep 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There's going to be backlash because same sex marriage supporters keep suing Christians.
Well, Brian, that's not exactly true. You make it sound as though those evil homosexuals are just indiscriminately suing Christians without justification.

Of course, if you weren't a dullard, you would realize that even that would not be any particular threat, because if the cases were not justified, the evil homosexuals would not win, and the court would order them to pay for the legal fees of the people they sued without justification.

Of course, that scenario is far from the truth. The lawsuits in question have arisen in cases where business owners have broken state anti-discrimination laws.

The reality of the matter is that it does not violate a business owner's free exercise of religion simply to provide services to a person who holds differing religious moral beliefs.

If you weren't an idiot, you would understand this. Keep making yourself look like a fool Brian. You are making great strides for marriage equality by making the opposition look like buffoonish cartoons.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9112 Sep 2, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Answer the question, please. Who issues the marriage license, the state, or the federal government?
I did. it is the state, as long as they do so without violating the US constitution.

one SCOTUS case away from nationwide, legal SSM.

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