Russia Casts Wider Homophobic Net, Targets Gay Blood Donors

Aug 26, 2013 Full story: EDGE 19

A Russian lawmaker has proposed a measure that would effectively widen that government's recent anti-gay legislative activity to include another area of civic life: Blood donations.

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#1 Aug 26, 2013
Lately sunshine has been going on the Poland forum begging me to come on the Russia forum and speak my mind.

So OK here I am.

As for this story, all I can say is that Putin is something else.

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this one

#2 Aug 26, 2013
An autocrat looking for scapegoats in an effort to distract from his myriad of failures as fearless leader?

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#3 Aug 26, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
An autocrat looking for scapegoats in an effort to distract from his myriad of failures as fearless leader?
Maybe.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#5 Aug 26, 2013
I've been waiting for this! A crackdown on AIDS (supposedly) spreaders. They'll start a special Gulag just for AIDS "patients". If you don't have it when you entered, you'll have it when they bury you. Forget about getting out. The Bastard has declared war on sexual minorities. This is the beginning of a purge. Make no mistake about it, Most Russians will support him in this. "Put a Russian on a spit and you can always find another Russian to turn it."
Regards, Terri

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#6 Aug 26, 2013
Russian version of the Nuremberg Laws, Stage two.

Next ... The Russian Inquisition! "CONVERT OR DIE!"

Jeni M

Waterford, MI

#7 Aug 26, 2013
This entire thing sickens me.It is a reprise of NAZI Germany just before WWII with the "final solution" of the Jewish,LGBT people,Gypsies, Eastern Europeans and people they consider to be a problem or different so they use them as "scapegots "of their own incompetent tyranny of governance.I am also afraid this is just the beginning of the New Cold War between Russia (USSR) and the West.Case in point,Russia's resistance to take a stand at the UN Security Council against Bashar al-Assad,their Russian ally, as to Assad's use of chemical weapons against his own ,Syrian, people.All this to maintain his power.I view China as not much better, than either of these two countries:Pure abuse of autocratic power."Power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely!" Lord Acton
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#8 Aug 26, 2013
In a narrow sense (regarding blood donations) one can say that gays are, indeed, being scapegoated, but in a wider sense that would tend to ignore the likelihood that such homophobic legislation actually enjoys wide support. Autocrats are not immune to public pressure, they just aren't beholden to it. In fact, Putin remains a popular figure, as did the Nazi until the war started to turn against them.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#9 Aug 27, 2013
TerryE wrote:
I've been waiting for this! A crackdown on AIDS (supposedly) spreaders. They'll start a special Gulag just for AIDS "patients". If you don't have it when you entered, you'll have it when they bury you. Forget about getting out. The Bastard has declared war on sexual minorities. This is the beginning of a purge. Make no mistake about it, Most Russians will support him in this. "Put a Russian on a spit and you can always find another Russian to turn it."
Regards, Terri
It is not only gays. They are very racist there now too. Gangs of thugs go around looking for "chernozhopy" ("black assholes") to beat up and kill and the police do nothing. Most of the people they kill are Central Asian Muslims, which perhaps will one day make those former Soviet countries into enemies and not allies.(Kyrgyzstan is already on its was to becoming a US puppet.)

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#10 Aug 27, 2013
Now? They've been more than "Racist" for centuries. I learned the word "Cherny" from Russians I knew years ago. They, like many people hold us in contempt. For seventy years they had to live with out the benefit of human feelings and so they look upon those who weren't denied this luxury as weak. We're paying for this now and this is just the beginning. Gradually they'll increase the pressure, like a cat playing with a mouse. That's why I distrusted the boycott movement. It just gave them a pretext to bring it up to the next level. You will also take notice that very few Straight people will be incarcerated, only Gays. This is a war against those who perceived as weak and effeminate, not AIDS itself.
Dos Svidanya, Terri
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not only gays. They are very racist there now too. Gangs of thugs go around looking for "chernozhopy" ("black assholes") to beat up and kill and the police do nothing. Most of the people they kill are Central Asian Muslims, which perhaps will one day make those former Soviet countries into enemies and not allies.(Kyrgyzstan is already on its was to becoming a US puppet.)
Jeni M

Waterford, MI

#12 Aug 27, 2013
Just an FYI: This is a quote from an 08/13/13 article from the "Association of Russian Lawyers For Human Rights:"

www.rusadvocat.com

"Lawyer Evgeny Arkhipov commented the situation and said, that the Russian government openly and deliberately pursues LGBT, which can only be compared with the persecution of Jews by Hitler in Nazi Germany. The lawyer said, that the LGBT community has chosen a peaceful form of protest and defend their rights by conducting gay parades. Vladimir Putin organized the campaign against LGBT community and discriminates LGBT, LGBT activists came to the forefront of protest and resists to fascist regime, which established in Russia. As lawyer Evgeny Arkhipov reminded, Vladimir Putin chose the Eurasian way of development of Russia, which is one of the branches of fascism.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#13 Aug 27, 2013
Jeni M wrote:
Just an FYI: This is a quote from an 08/13/13 article from the "Association of Russian Lawyers For Human Rights:"
www.rusadvocat.com
"Lawyer Evgeny Arkhipov commented the situation and said, that the Russian government openly and deliberately pursues LGBT, which can only be compared with the persecution of Jews by Hitler in Nazi Germany. The lawyer said, that the LGBT community has chosen a peaceful form of protest and defend their rights by conducting gay parades. Vladimir Putin organized the campaign against LGBT community and discriminates LGBT, LGBT activists came to the forefront of protest and resists to fascist regime, which established in Russia. As lawyer Evgeny Arkhipov reminded, Vladimir Putin chose the Eurasian way of development of Russia, which is one of the branches of fascism.
I'd question an educated person, especially if they happen to be gentile, about making such a comparison. My question would be if they had a hidden agenda of creating a wedge issue. Some Jews (not me) get very rile up about AYNTHING (including other holocausts) being compared to the Nazis and I'm sure this guys is smart enough to know that.

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Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#14 Aug 27, 2013
Proud Russian wrote:
Lately sunshine has been going on the Poland forum begging me to come on the Russia forum and speak my mind.

So OK here I am.

As for this story, all I can say is that Putin is something else.
How is business going lately at the kielbasa cart?(-:

Naturally you would be attracted to a thread about queers and perverts.

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Pompano Beach, FL

#15 Aug 27, 2013
TerryE wrote:
I've been waiting for this! A crackdown on AIDS (supposedly) spreaders. They'll start a special Gulag just for AIDS "patients". If you don't have it when you entered, you'll have it when they bury you. Forget about getting out. The Bastard has declared war on sexual minorities. This is the beginning of a purge. Make no mistake about it, Most Russians will support him in this. "Put a Russian on a spit and you can always find another Russian to turn it."
Regards, Terri
Pretty much all homosexuals carry HIV. Why would anyone want their blood to begin with?

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#16 Aug 27, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
An autocrat looking for scapegoats in an effort to distract from his myriad of failures as fearless leader?
So that is why Obama is rehashing all the old cold war era rhetoric in his new campaign of racial hatred against slavs? To cover up for his own failures on the economy?

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#17 Aug 27, 2013
My Dear Uther, No that's not true. In fact there was a point when the infection rate was slightly smaller in the Gay world than straight. This was because of Gays embracing safe sex and straights, thinking only Gays had HIV went merrily along. This perception is what bothers me the most. I believe that Africans accepted this view. That's why something like 25% of all Africans are HIV+. Now, Where do,in your wisdom, place Transexuals? Probably as Gay too! So that means I would have to suffer all the punishment or "treatments" without having any of the fun.
Regards, Terri
uther pendragon wrote:
<quoted text>
Pretty much all homosexuals carry HIV. Why would anyone want their blood to begin with?

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#18 Aug 27, 2013
Jeni M wrote:
This entire thing sickens me.It is a reprise of NAZI Germany just before WWII with the "final solution" of the Jewish,LGBT people,Gypsies, Eastern Europeans and people they consider to be a problem or different so they use them as "scapegots "of their own incompetent tyranny of governance.I am also afraid this is just the beginning of the New Cold War between Russia (USSR) and the West.Case in point,Russia's resistance to take a stand at the UN Security Council against Bashar al-Assad,their Russian ally, as to Assad's use of chemical weapons against his own ,Syrian, people.All this to maintain his power.I view China as not much better, than either of these two countries:Pure abuse of autocratic power."Power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely!" Lord Acton
It's comforting to see that someone gets it.

Since: Mar 09

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#19 Aug 27, 2013
TerryE wrote:
My Dear Uther, No that's not true. In fact there was a point when the infection rate was slightly smaller in the Gay world than straight. This was because of Gays embracing safe sex and straights, thinking only Gays had HIV went merrily along. This perception is what bothers me the most. I believe that Africans accepted this view. That's why something like 25% of all Africans are HIV+. Now, Where do,in your wisdom, place Transexuals? Probably as Gay too! So that means I would have to suffer all the punishment or "treatments" without having any of the fun.
Regards, Terri
<quoted text>
Very good.

Since: Mar 09

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#20 Aug 27, 2013
Proud Russian wrote:
Lately sunshine has been going on the Poland forum begging me to come on the Russia forum and speak my mind.
So OK here I am.
As for this story, all I can say is that Putin is something else.
"something else" indeed.

But what?

I vote for chekist fascist with a fairly typical and serious midlife crisis going on.

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Since: Aug 13

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#21 Aug 27, 2013
Why are they persecuting gays? Aren't there any Jews in Russia?

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