Scouting files reveal abuse cover ups

Oct 18, 2012 Full story: Bellingham Herald 18

The documents, from 1959-1985, show that on numerous occasions authorities helped quietly shield scoutmasters and others accused of molesting children.

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“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#1 Oct 19, 2012
The link is broken on this story but I've read the story elsewhere.

So the scouts exclude gay men and gay scouts because they don't follow "a duty to God".

Meanwhile the scouts cover up and shield members of their own ranks who DO abuse kids and have done so for scores of years.

Where was their "duty to God"?

Where was their duty to protect these kids and society?
Leon

Carthage, MO

#2 Oct 19, 2012
Keep gay men away from boys !!!

Keep queers out of the Boy Scouts !!!

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#3 Oct 19, 2012
Leon wrote:
Keep gay men away from boys !!!
Keep queers out of the Boy Scouts !!!
If you don't like gays, why are you reading a gay forum?

Kill yourself if you don't want to see any. You won't have to see them, and they won't have to see you. It's a win-win.
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#7 Oct 19, 2012
So the queers infiltrate the Scouts to get at the kids. Now they want to allow gay kids into the Scouts. How is that supposed to improve the situation?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#8 Oct 19, 2012
Leon wrote:
Keep gay men away from boys !!!
Keep queers out of the Boy Scouts !!!
That won't fix the problem
.
Gay guys are born with the same sexual orientation your MOTHER was born with; attracted to MEN; (not attracted to children)
.
The only way to fix the scouting problem is to get sociopaths out of scouting:
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*Profile of a Sociopath*
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1. Glibness and Superficial Charm
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2. Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
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3. Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
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4. Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
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5. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
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6. Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
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7. Incapacity for Love
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8. Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
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9. Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
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10. Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
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11. Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
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12. Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
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13. Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
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14. Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
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15. Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
APA

El Segundo, CA

#9 Oct 19, 2012
By definition, all homosexuals are sociopaths.

Since: Sep 09

San Francisco, CA

#11 Oct 19, 2012
KirkW wrote:
The link is broken on this story but I've read the story elsewhere.
So the scouts exclude gay men and gay scouts because they don't follow "a duty to God".
Meanwhile the scouts cover up and shield members of their own ranks who DO abuse kids and have done so for scores of years.
Where was their "duty to God"?
Where was their duty to protect these kids and society?
The scouts are following the RCC duty to god model, cover up child abuse and the abusers. This has nothing to do with Gays.
WestCoaster

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Oct 19, 2012
APA wrote:
By definition, all homosexuals are sociopaths.
Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. However, homophobia IS.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#13 Oct 19, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
So the queers infiltrate the Scouts to get at the kids. Now they want to allow gay kids into the Scouts. How is that supposed to improve the situation?
You know who infiltrated the Scouts? The pedophiles that these misguided policies PROTECT. You sit and point fingers at gay people who are "out" and well-adjusted adults, who have a fully developed understanding of who they are, but these are NOT the people who are a threat to children.

The threat comes from the closeted freaks who have no idea what their sexuality is, they've never explored it, they don't know how to handle it, and then along come people like you who tell them EXACTLY how to act, and how to look, and how to FOOL you into thinking they're "normal". Policies like this PROVIDE them the cover they need, while you are busy accusing innocent and harmless people of crimes they did not commit.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#14 Oct 19, 2012
Leon wrote:
Keep gay men away from boys !!!
Keep queers out of the Boy Scouts !!!
Just let the child molesters in instead, that's what you are saying, right?
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#15 Oct 19, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
Just let the child molesters in instead, that's what you are saying, right?
So an adult man that molests young boys instead of young girls is a pedophile, but not queer? He can't be both?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#16 Oct 19, 2012
Here's a working link to the article, if anyone wants to read it:

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/10/18/27...

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#17 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
<quoted text>
So an adult man that molests young boys instead of young girls is a pedophile, but not queer? He can't be both?
He COULD be both but believe it or not, STRAIGHT pedophiles molest both girls AND boys.

So a man who molests boys doesn't HAVE to be gay - no.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#18 Oct 20, 2012
KirkW wrote:
He COULD be both but believe it or not, STRAIGHT pedophiles molest both girls AND boys.
So a man who molests boys doesn't HAVE to be gay - no.
http://www.childmolestationpre vention.org/pdfs/study.pdf

Pages 11-12: "Adult Sexual Orientation of Men Who Molest Boys".

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#19 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
<quoted text>
So an adult man that molests young boys instead of young girls is a pedophile, but not queer? He can't be both?
Most pedophiles are interested ONLY in underage people. They typically camouflage this by being heterosexually married or becoming Roman Catholic priests.

Gay <> pedophile. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Yes, there are so pedophiles who are gay but most are not and the vast majority of gay people are not pedophiles. However, I think it fair to say that the vast majority of trolls are of low IQ.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#20 Oct 20, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdf...
Pages 11-12: "Adult Sexual Orientation of Men Who Molest Boys".
No you see you can't read EXCERPTS - you need to read the ENTIRE report.

Nice try though.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#21 Oct 20, 2012
KirkW wrote:
No you see you can't read EXCERPTS - you need to read the ENTIRE report.
Nice try though.
You should have read what I gave you before you commented.
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#22 Oct 20, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You should have read what I gave you before you commented.
That is so funny when queers fight. In fact, statistics show that most violence inflicted upon homosexuals is caused by other homosexuals, not by straights.

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